Recommend me a rimfire rifle scope

TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior MemberPosts: 5,621 Senior Member
Started a thread about my sanity, and Chris said...get a bolt gun. That sent that discussion on a differ path, and I want to continue it here.
cpj wrote: »
I love my .243.
But. Bullets are 2-3 times as expensive as the .223, and the .243 takes 40-ish grains of powder compared to 25-ish (depending on the flavor of powder) for the .223.
Of course the obvious answer is all three- .22LR, 223 and 243, but we are trying to Jedi mind trick you one gun at a time.

So the Jedi mind tricks worked, and I decided on a .22 bolt gun.
Elk creek wrote: »
I have a CZ 452 that is an amazing shooter. It will outshoot me. My point of aim was the paper. That is a 1/2" arrow staple at 50 yards.......

This got me looking at the CZs. The 452 has been replaced by the 455. From everything I have ready over the last few days, the CZ 455 would be hard to beat...and now I want one.

I'll order the 455 in 22LR, but will probably add the 22WMR and or 17HMR barrel sets just for the fun of it. I'll start buying ammo now for all three just in case.

Scope recommendations are what I need now. Budget for the scope is not firm, I prefer quality and not have issues with a product because I tried to save a buck.

Any thoughts?
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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,652 Senior Member
    Suppose it depends on the use. I'm assuming you will be killing paper targets? I also assume weight isn't a concern? If so, I'd probably go with a higher magnification than I'd recommend for say a hunting gun. Something with a 12 power or better on the top end. That will make it easier to see the tiny targets you'll be shooting at 100 + yards....
    As to exactly which one, I'm at a loss. Mainly because I'm in the same boat right now. I need a new scope for my Armerican, but not sure which way to go.
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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,652 Senior Member
    And notice I just ignored the successful JMT. That's part of a successful JMT. Next you'll be getting a .223 bolt gun. And you won't even know why, you'll just do it. You'll walk in the house and your wife will say "why did you buy that?" And you'll say "I'm not sure. I just felt like I needed to. "
    And even after reading this, you'll forget it. Like you never even read it. Why? Because JMT.
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,652 Senior Member
    This wouldn't be bad, other than I prefer the finest reticle I can get. Which that is all purely personal preference. There's two different style reticles offered by the way.

    http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-crossfire-ii-6-18x44-ao-rifle-scope.html
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
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  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 923 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Suppose it depends on the use. I'm assuming you will be killing paper targets? I also assume weight isn't a concern? If so, I'd probably go with a higher magnification than I'd recommend for say a hunting gun. Something with a 12 power or better on the top end. That will make it easier to see the tiny targets you'll be shooting at 100 + yards....
    As to exactly which one, I'm at a loss. Mainly because I'm in the same boat right now. I need a new scope for my Armerican, but not sure which way to go.

    Excellent advice.

    I love my Leupold 2-7 x 28 Rimfire on my plinking/hunting gun. Light, compact and easy to use, it is perfect in that role.

    But, it was an epic failure when I tried to use it for punching small holes over 50 yards. Simply put, I ran out of magnification. I hated it so much that I moved it to my cheaper hunting gun.

    For target use, I bought a Vortex Diamondback 4-12 x40 with AO. Much happier. But, I wouldn't like it on my hunting rig - bigger/heavier.
    http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-diamondback-4-12x40-ao-riflescope-v-plex-reticle

    One Thing: There are a lot of sales on Vortex, Leupold, and Nikon rimfire scopes. Look for a deal.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 3,969 Senior Member
    I have a 10/22T, sst with lam stock. I put a Leupold 4-12X, AO, on it, and with the right load from the bench, it's a paper punching beast. With CCI mini mag hp's and a USMC shooting sling, it's a squirrel killing machine out to 75 yards.

    I love hi mag scopes on accurate 22 rimfires. Combined, they bring out the best in each other.

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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 4,955 Senior Member
    One thing to consider is the distances that you plan on shooting. Scopes that are designated for .22lr usually have the parallax set for 50yds and shooting at 50yds with a scoped rifle doesn't do anything for me. I use conventional rifle scopes on my scoped .22lr's as I prefer to shoot them at 100yds.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Thats an awfully nice looking rifle to put an overly large scope on. Manufactures now offer scopes specific to rimfire of high quality and powerful magnification. A compromise between clarity at distance and svelte may bring the best result.
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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 8,452 Senior Member
    Under $200, Adj Objective down to 10 yards, target turrets for multiple calibers..................

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1648317240/sightron-sih-tac-rifle-scope-matte

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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 8,452 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    Thats an awfully nice looking rifle to put an overly large scope on. Manufactures now offer scopes specific to rimfire of high quality and powerful magnification. A compromise between clarity at distance and svelte may bring the best result.

    Need at least 12x for a 17HMR.............. it can do 200-250 yards easy.
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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,173 Senior Member
    I'm with Linefinder!


    I just bought a VX-2 4-12x40 AO (I'm guessing what Linefinder is speaking of) for my CZ-455 upgrade ... in fact that is the one my kid took down that range "ninja" I posted about a week or so back. That scope to me fits nicely with the CZ-455's size and look ... at a glance it almost looks like a centerfire to some.

    IMG_0278_zpsn9cn2aqj.jpg

    IMG_0277_zpsnwhpaxiv.jpg


    ETA ... the reticle has a fine duplex setup so when you are aiming for a small target you don't cover it up!

    Also I tried something a little off with this purchase and went to B&H Photo's website and when I found this scope there was a "email me a better price" link over the "add to cart" tab and got it for right $340 to my door with no problems or such.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1035924-REG/leupold_110808_vx_2_4_12x40_adjustable_objective.html
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  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,621 Senior Member
    NCFUBAR wrote: »
    I'm with Linefinder!


    I just bought a VX-2 4-12x40 AO (I'm guessing what Linefinder is speaking of) for my CZ-455 upgrade ... in fact that is the one my kid took down that range "ninja" I posted about a week or so back. That scope to me fits nicely with the CZ-455's size and look ... at a glance it almost looks like a centerfire to some.

    IMG_0278_zpsn9cn2aqj.jpg

    IMG_0277_zpsnwhpaxiv.jpg


    ETA ... the reticle has a fine duplex setup so when you are aiming for a small target you don't cover it up!

    Also I tried something a little off with this purchase and went to B&H Photo's website and when I found this scope there was a "email me a better price" link over the "add to cart" tab and got it for right $340 to my door with no problems or such.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1035924-REG/leupold_110808_vx_2_4_12x40_adjustable_objective.html

    Damn! :drool2:
  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,621 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    And notice I just ignored the successful JMT. That's part of a successful JMT. Next you'll be getting a .223 bolt gun. And you won't even know why, you'll just do it. You'll walk in the house and your wife will say "why did you buy that?" And you'll say "I'm not sure. I just felt like I needed to. "
    And even after reading this, you'll forget it. Like you never even read it. Why? Because JMT.

    Yeah...remember that amp you bought, was not the amp you THOUGHT you wanted.

    JMT only works on weak minded simpletons like us :jester:
  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,621 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    This wouldn't be bad, other than I prefer the finest reticle I can get. Which that is all purely personal preference. There's two different style reticles offered by the way.

    http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-crossfire-ii-6-18x44-ao-rifle-scope.html


    I like the Vortex brand. Have a Vortex scope on my AR and red dot on my shotgun. This one looks good with the V-Brite reticle, price is OK to.
  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,652 Senior Member
    Yeah...remember that amp you bought, was not the amp you THOUGHT you wanted.

    JMT only works on weak minded simpletons like us :jester:

    Should have never even bought that amp. $250 wasted. I could have put a cardboard box in its place to collect dust for free.
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
    Zee
  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,621 Senior Member
    I hear ya. I have dust collectors shaped like guitar cases and one shaped like an amp.


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  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 5,878 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    This wouldn't be bad, other than I prefer the finest reticle I can get. Which that is all purely personal preference. There's two different style reticles offered by the way.

    http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-crossfire-ii-6-18x44-ao-rifle-scope.html

    I have this scope and it is nice for the most part. It sits on my Savage MKII, I love the 10 yard focus range. I have found the eye box to be rather finicky when I shoot prone. From a bench it is great. To be honest it could my technique.
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    Under $200, Adj Objective down to 10 yards, target turrets for multiple calibers..................

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1648317240/sightron-sih-tac-rifle-scope-matte

    257529.jpg

    I like the Vortex a lot but if 12x will suit your needs and you are wanting to shoot farther out with your .22 I would recommend the Sightron because it has revolution marks going up the turret. You have remember how revolutions you have made. At some point I am going to make that mistake. That is really my biggest gripe about the Vortex.
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  • PegasusPegasus Senior Member Posts: 2,467 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    One thing to consider is the distances that you plan on shooting. Scopes that are designated for .22lr usually have the parallax set for 50yds and shooting at 50yds with a scoped rifle doesn't do anything for me. I use conventional rifle scopes on my scoped .22lr's as I prefer to shoot them at 100yds.
    The scopes mentioned are AO for the most part, so parallax is not an issue. Adjustable Objective or side focus, no parallax issues.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,383 Senior Member
    I put a Nikon Prostaff rimfire on my Savage mkII. It was $129 at Academy. I like it. I posted a couple of pics after its 1st outing. I can't copy and paste worth a flip from this table or I would post a link. I think I 1st posted that thread around thanksgiving

    Just did a search and didn't find those pictures. Maybe I didn't post them after all.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,561 Senior Member
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  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,383 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »

    Thanks Knite!

    The 2nd link is it. I JUST got through searching for that and could not find it!!

    Btw, the scope was $119 not 129.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,561 Senior Member
    RugerFan wrote: »
    Thanks Knite!

    The 2nd link is it. I JUST got through searching for that and could not find it!!

    Btw, the scope was $119 not 129.
    You're welcome. I made the incorrect one go away from my post :tooth:
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,332 Senior Member
    Whatever you get, make sure it has an adjustable objective. What was said earlier was right on, most CF scopes won't focus clearly at .22 rimfire ranges.
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  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,621 Senior Member
    Thank you everyone. I'll chew on the scope suggestions while I wait for the rifle. Should be able to have it in my hands by months end, which means I need to pick a scope and order some ammo.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,338 Senior Member
    RugerFan wrote: »
    I put a Nikon Prostaff rimfire on my Savage mkII. It was $129 at Academy. I like it. I posted a couple of pics after its 1st outing. I can't copy and paste worth a flip from this table or I would post a link. I think I 1st posted that thread around thanksgiving

    Just did a search and didn't find those pictures. Maybe I didn't post them after all.

    This. I shoot mine from powder burn distance, to 200 yards.
    Great scope.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,173 Senior Member
    True, my CZs like CCI Standard for the less expensive stuff and I sort them by rim thickness to tighten up groups more. The top dollar stuff does do better but my ability (or lack off) just does not justify Eley, RWS or such but yours might ... just gotta try 'me all to see what yours likes best. Also as usual MiniMags shot damn good ...
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,079 Senior Member
    I put this one on my Ruger AM .22 bolt rifle, a 3X9. Not bad, it was on sale fer around $89 bucks last year at Midway. $139 now, but keep an peeled as all kinds of scopes go on sale.

    Works well enough, not top-end, but works good enough for my purpose of punching paper usually @ 50 yards and I love the side knob Adjustable Objective feature. Being a sucker fer a sale I bought a Bushnell Legend 4.5X14 44mm I never mounted on anything yet. Before or right after X-mas it was $149 I think. Also I believe they have come out with other newer model scopes with different features to replace those they put on deep sale.

    I have thought about upgrading it with something, that Bushnell should work on it or my Marlin 883 .22 magnum, I guess.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/274141/simmons-protarget-rimfire-rifle-scope-3-9x-40mm-side-focus-22-lr-turrets-truplex-reticle-matte
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 3,954 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    This. I shoot mine from powder burn distance, to 200 yards.
    Great scope.

    I have one on my marlin bolt action. 2-7x40 I think. Very clear and bright. Highly recommend. Comes with turrets for 22lr and 22mag. Cept I paid 179 for mine:angry:
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  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,621 Senior Member
    NCFUBAR wrote: »
    True, my CZs like CCI Standard for the less expensive stuff and I sort them by rim thickness to tighten up groups more. The top dollar stuff does do better but my ability (or lack off) just does not justify Eley, RWS or such but yours might ... just gotta try 'me all to see what yours likes best. Also as usual MiniMags shot damn good ...

    Wife likes shooting Eley Club ammo, so we have 500 or so rounds in the safe. I can get 1000 rounds of that for 60 bucks, which aint bad. I'll try that first and see how it to does. 1000 rounds of Federal Gold Medal Match is 80 bucks. I'll probably try that as well. I remember she liked shooting that also. Remember...I was not shooting back when ammo was cheap, so the prices today just seem normal.
  • PegasusPegasus Senior Member Posts: 2,467 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I put this one on my Ruger AM .22 bolt rifle, a 3X9. Not bad, it was on sale fer around $89 bucks last year at Midway. $139 now, but keep an peeled as all kinds of scopes go on sale.

    Works well enough, not top-end, but works good enough for my purpose of punching paper usually @ 50 yards and I love the side knob Adjustable Objective feature.
    :spittingcoffee:

    Big Chief, that's a new one on me. I suggest you get it patented right away.

    Currently, a side focus knob does not adjust the objective, it moves an additional lens set between the fixed objective lens and th first focus plane, and this lens is called a focusing lens as it focuses the image onto the first foca plane. This is not the focal plane where FFP scopes have their reticle.

    So, its either a side-focus with the extra focusing lens or an AO Adjustable Objective, one that is adjusted by twisting it like a camera lens.

    Thanks for the giggle.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,080 Senior Member
    Another vote for Nikon; for hunting a x9 works, but for range work a higher magnification is a better choice.

    A CZ 455 is the best price/quality/performance choice; I have a 455FS and it has nothing to envy to my 452 Trainer.
    To cheaply increase accuracy you'll only need to change the trigger spring for a lighter one available from a few online vendors. You haven't specified the model you've ordered but seems like it's an American.....isn't it?
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