I had this lonely scope laying around....

bullsi1911bullsi1911 ModeratorPosts: 8,968 Senior Member
This Weaver 1x20 had been sitting in my box 'o optics for a while and I finally decided to give it a home.



So I dug around in my stash of dad cash, and came up with a few extra freedom bucks. With a short, light, compact scope with NO magnification, what would be a good fit? I decided I needed another .45-70 to go with the all the brass, loading dies, and loaded rounds I had. So this is what followed me home from Cabela's emporium of making my wife angry:



A Henry Repeating H010 .45-70 Lever. I wanted to get the all-weather version, but it seems that Henry only makes those if you know the secret illuminati handshake. This will do, however. Why henry? Because I handled a brand new Marlin that was on the rack next to it and the lever was as rough as a Laredo saturday night, it came with pre-boogered screw heads, and the fit of parts was horrid.

I let the scope and the rifle hang out overnight and get to know each other. What came out of the safe was this:

(why the forum puts a 90 degree tilt on the pics is beyond me. must be a feature)

Initial impressions: I LIKE the rifle. Handy as all get out, the lever is so slick and fast handling that I have to get used to not muscling it so hard or my hand comes out of the loop. The scope is a nice pairing for it, but it might be a little dim for morning hunts. The instructions say it will only take 4 in the tube, but if you ask real nice, it seems she will let you put a 5th one in. The ejection port is a little small, so doing an emergency load of a dry gun by dumping in a lose round is difficult. This is a bit of a concern, because this thing loads like a Marlin Model 60. Which I actually find goofy-cool.

Hope to get to the range in the next couple days to sight it in. Anyone that has knowledge of .45-70 trajectory that can suggest an initial "get on paper" distance that will put me close at 100, please let me know.
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 6,524 Senior Member
    I start at 50 yards! Will still be close at 100. My load, for my trapdoors, is 40 grains of 3031 with a 405 cast. That's equal to the original BP load.
    Nice looking rifle, looking forward to range report!

    BIL has one in 45 Colt, loves it!!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 15,347 Senior Member
    Purdy gun, nice stock! Love blued steel and wood.
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Its not the forum. The scope upset the rifle's natural ergonomics.:jester:

    Its actually a very good combination.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,470 Senior Member
    Henry does make a pretty rifle! I like the pairing of 1X scope and that rifle, too. That funky loading from the tube will grow on you, I bet.

    Sighting in distance; 25 yards usually puts you on paper at 100, and 50 yard sight in will be a little low most likely. Don't know until you shoot!

    Sorry to hear that the Marlin offering was in such poor shape direct from the factory. That is going to hurt sales. My old Marlins are slick as butter, and the Guide Gun is a 90's model, but slick. Seems like Remlin can't get a break on some of their assembly problems.
    A double action revolver is a semiauto firearm. It fires once for every trigger pull.



  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,598 Senior Member
    I like Trail Boss in my 45-70 and staying under 75 yards... Shoots almost like a .223, but delivers a .45 caliber hole in almost anything.

    D
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,085 Senior Member
    Congrats on your new Thumper! :guns: :guns:

    You might wanna look into H4895 powder for reduced loads (down to 60% of Max listed)

    I saw some of them Henry 45-70s in Walmart, nice. I have been eyeballing a .45 Colt one lately............wish they would have another clearance sale like I got on my Marlin 1895 45-70 and it would be sold and maybe one in .357 too..........................

    My Marlin is OK, not as slick as the older ones, but not as bad as some of the newer ones either. What $250 final cost after the sale/clearance and $50 rebate check from Rem.............I'm OK with that.

    I saw a YouTube on one like yours, folks really like them and find the way they load different, not bad though. If you are shootin something with it and a tube full don't get er done.............one more fer a quick reload/ top off fer an extra shot ain't gonna give you what you need, time to call in the Artillery.

    Range report when you can.
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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,652 Senior Member
    On at 25, should be on at 100. 50 should be high.
    I dig the rifle. I like the way it loads. Makes for a cleaner looking gun, and makes it easier what for not dikering up the side of her.
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    Zee
  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,652 Senior Member
    And while not a hot supper load, trail boss and bigass cast bullets will penetrate anything you're going to encounter. And not destroy your shoulder. Not to mention one of the most thing you can do is to shoot steel with those loads. Boom..............clang!
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
    Zee
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,566 Senior Member
    I concur with starting @ 25 should get you close @ 100.

    Funny thong, I got the current issue of Handloader the other day and looked at it today. They have an article about the Gould 330 HP mould and how great that bullet is for deer at moderate velocities.

    It's now sold as a Lyman 457122
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/370703/lyman-1-cavity-bullet-mold-457122-45-caliber-458-459-diameter-330-grain-flat-nose-hollow-point

    I have the mould but have lost the HP pin. I cast mine out of certified 20:1
    I've killed 1 coyote from with my Contender with them, Bang-flop-roll against the tree from ~60 yards. HUGE gnarly hole in Wile E.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,470 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I concur with starting @ 25 should get you close @ 100.

    Funny thong, I got the current issue of Handloader the other day and looked at it today. They have an article about the Gould 330 HP mould and how great that bullet is for deer at moderate velocities.

    It's now sold as a Lyman 457122
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/370703/lyman-1-cavity-bullet-mold-457122-45-caliber-458-459-diameter-330-grain-flat-nose-hollow-point

    I have the mould but have lost the HP pin. I cast mine out of certified 20:1
    I've killed 1 coyote from with my Contender with them, Bang-flop-roll against the tree from ~60 yards. HUGE gnarly hole in Wile E.

    That hollow point pin could be replicated pretty easily if you can't get it from Lyman or Gould.
    A double action revolver is a semiauto firearm. It fires once for every trigger pull.



  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 18,961 Senior Member
    I don't like you right now.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • kansashunterkansashunter Senior Member Posts: 1,242 Senior Member
    My local GS had one of those and I lusted for it a long time and was saving up the needed cash but when I almost had enough someone else bought it. It had the aperture sight but the new ones don't which POed me so I don't want one now. You suck!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,085 Senior Member
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,338 Senior Member
    That's a great looking rifle!
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    BigAl- Thanks! I still tell people how great Anthony Imperato was for coming on the board here years ago and talking with us, and then realized I don't have one Henry. I know lots of people that have them and love em. Had to rectify the situation

    Zorba- I know, it is pretty. I was wanting to get the hard chrome and black finished wood "All Weather" version, but this just seems to be a nicer looking gun.

    Tennmike- My brother bought a Marlin at the same time and the same deal, that BigChief did. It was not nearly as dickered up as the one that was on the rack. It is sad to see a great American brand like that hit the skids.

    Early - Thanks!

    Big Dan- I just picked up a can of trail boss to make some subsonic Mosin loads. Might have to mess around with the .45-70 as well.

    BigChief- I am already planing a side-by side Marlin vs Henry shoot off from the one my brother bought when you bought yours

    CPJ- I have access to a 400 yard steel range. I WILL get this out there. BOOM....................................clang

    Knite- I am really looking forward to taking this hunting. Might have to roll an Axis with it this summer

    Zee- Thats OK. You got me obsessed with long range handguns.

    JB- Thanks!
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 9,357 Senior Member
    I handled that same gun about 10 days ago, I liked the action, not so much the rear sight, but that is fixable obviously. Think it will handle the stomping loads?
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  • ojrojr Senior Member Posts: 626 Senior Member
    That looks really cool, I like it to.
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,034 Senior Member
    Looks like awesome hog medicine!
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  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,875 Senior Member
    VERY nice!! If it's like my Marlin, it'll dump Hornady LeveRevolution 325 grain FTX into MOA groups all day long. :cool2:

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  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 5,878 Senior Member
    You suck. I like that combo a lot. Very nice.
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 6,706 Senior Member
    Looks like a damned fine deep woods still hunting setup to me.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,085 Senior Member
    Dang, get some ladder or peep sights and an Injin and a horse to volunteer and maybe you could make a Adobe Walls (Billy Dixon) shot with it :tooth: :guns: :guns:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,306 Senior Member
    I have a 1 X scope on my Marlin .44 mag levergun. Would love to add one like yours to the lever collection.
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  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,627 Senior Member
    Sweet! I love lever guns!


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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    I handled that same gun about 10 days ago, I liked the action, not so much the rear sight, but that is fixable obviously. Think it will handle the stomping loads?

    I'm not sure if it is up to Marlin strength. Need to research that.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    Found a couple places online that say it will take any modern load. SoI could get some of the shoulder breakers.

    If I want to develop a flinch, that is
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    OJR- Thanks!

    Wambli - I agree. I do want to get out and whack a piggie with it.

    Jeeper- I may try those after I sight it in.

    Farm Boy - Thank you!

    Six-gun- Agreed. I am looking forward to hunting with it

    Big Chief- I do want to try long range, but with the scope :)

    Diver- the more I goof with the setup, the more I like it. It's like a red dot... without the batteries.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,687 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    This Weaver 1x20 had been sitting in my box 'o optics for a while and I finally decided to give it a home.



    So I dug around in my stash of dad cash, and came up with a few extra freedom bucks. With a short, light, compact scope with NO magnification, what would be a good fit? I decided I needed another .45-70 to go with the all the brass, loading dies, and loaded rounds I had. So this is what followed me home from Cabela's emporium of making my wife angry:



    A Henry Repeating H010 .45-70 Lever. I wanted to get the all-weather version, but it seems that Henry only makes those if you know the secret illuminati handshake. This will do, however. Why henry? Because I handled a brand new Marlin that was on the rack next to it and the lever was as rough as a Laredo saturday night, it came with pre-boogered screw heads, and the fit of parts was horrid.

    I let the scope and the rifle hang out overnight and get to know each other. What came out of the safe was this:

    (why the forum puts a 90 degree tilt on the pics is beyond me. must be a feature)

    Initial impressions: I LIKE the rifle. Handy as all get out, the lever is so slick and fast handling that I have to get used to not muscling it so hard or my hand comes out of the loop. The scope is a nice pairing for it, but it might be a little dim for morning hunts. The instructions say it will only take 4 in the tube, but if you ask real nice, it seems she will let you put a 5th one in. The ejection port is a little small, so doing an emergency load of a dry gun by dumping in a lose round is difficult. This is a bit of a concern, because this thing loads like a Marlin Model 60. Which I actually find goofy-cool.

    Hope to get to the range in the next couple days to sight it in. Anyone that has knowledge of .45-70 trajectory that can sugGivegest an initial "get on paper" distance that will put me close at 100, please let me know.

    Might be a little dim for morning hunts? I can see this one coming a mile away. Give that a couple weeks or a month then it will evolve into, "Saw this and couldn't turn it down, since my Henry 45-70's scope is a little dim in the mornings" hehehehe! I have used similar lines on my spouse or to justify purchases to myself! we're so EASY on ourselves, HeHeHeHe!!!

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    Oh yeah. I could see this wearing a 1-4x with an illuminated reticle. Then I would have to get something else to go under this scope.....
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 9,357 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Oh yeah. I could see this wearing a 1-4x with an illuminated reticle. Then I would have to get something else to go under this scope.....

    .....wash, rinse, repeat!

    I think the gun might be a bit light for stomping loads, but options is what the .45-70 is about, for me anyways.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
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