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pjames777pjames777 Senior MemberPosts: 1,027 Senior Member
Appears that Fox may cut ties with Bill O. Seems the Left has found a new tool in destroying conservative talk show hosts. Sexual misconduct, smear campaign that you are judged guilty until proven innocent. Don't care for O'Reilly but this character assasination tactic is B.S. IMHO.
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  • 6EQUJ5 - WOW!6EQUJ5 - WOW! Banned Posts: 482 Member
    Have not heard of this. I actually enjoy listening to O'Reilly from time to time. Like anyone else, I may not agree with everything he says but he offers some interesting topics. I also enjoyed his Killing Lincoln book whom he co-authored with Martin Dugard. Dugard also wrote a fantastic book about Captain James Cook several years ago.

    Edit: As far as the sexual misconduct allegations go? - :fiddle:
  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 36,678 Senior Member
    Wouldn't surprise me. I think Orielly is a class A D-bag.
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Fools could afford what ever they want but instead they'd rather victimize innocent women. This crap should have stopped a long time ago.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 17,917 Senior Member
    O'Reilly is an obnoxious Noo Yawk damyankee, but he's the latest victim of the character assassination efforts of the liberals. He's a closet gun grabber who plays fast and loose with the "facts" where the 2nd. Amendment is concerned, and he talks over and bullies anyone foolish enough to disagree with him. The quickest way to get his goat is to remind him that he was a draft-dodging coward during Viet Nam, same as Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, and a bunch of others on both sides of the political aisle. I won't be sorry to see him go, but it's a sad and stupid situation that he gave the liberals the ammo for his firing squad!
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  • 6EQUJ5 - WOW!6EQUJ5 - WOW! Banned Posts: 482 Member
    early wrote: »
    Fools could afford what ever they want but instead they'd rather victimize innocent women. This crap should have stopped a long time ago.

    Me thinks these women were far from "innocent" and when he ended whatever affair they were involved in they got butthurt and were then contacted by Gloria Allred and $$$$$$$$ signs. It all comes down to money in the end.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    This is why legal teams should fight EVERY allegation. Because if you settle... well, it's pretty much saying you did it.

    If he did what's alleged, he deserves what he's getting. If he didn't do it, and fox did not fight the allegations, then THEY are responsible for him looking like he did it.

    Plus he is a jerk.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,333 Senior Member
    Sometimes it's less expensive to settle than it is to fight it out. This ain't O'Reilly's first rodeo. I assume there is some sort of smoke here; if there isn't, fight it. Proof is in the pudding.
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,000 Senior Member
    I've been hearing of the sexual misconduct allegations, and know he's been on vacation for all of last week and apparently will be away all of this week. His current fill in is Dana Perino, former press secretary for George W. Bush. If O'Reilly really is given the boot, it will be interesting to see if his spot is filled by a woman.

    Here's a pointer to an NBC report on the situation.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/bill-o-reilly-reportedly-out-fox-news-n748236

    FWIW, I like O'Reilly, and consider him the best of the 3 prime time hosts (O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity) that Fox has. Hannity usually has mostly guests with a similar view of his own. When he does have one with an opposing view, he usually has a second guest who shares his view and they pound the crap out of the guest with the opposing view. Carlson either lets some loon ramble incoherently, or laughs at his opponent during their debate/discussion. And, say what you will about Bill, he has a lot of guests with views contrary to his. Sometimes he even lets them get a word in edgewise.

    I also like Martha McCallum who currently holds down the 7 p.m. EDT time slot. It would not disappoint me if she were to take O'Reilly's time slot. I also like Dana Perino.
    Jerry

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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,579 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Wouldn't surprise me. I think Orielly is a class A D-bag.

    :agree: :that:
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,000 Senior Member
    According to MSN, it's a done deal.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/o%e2%80%99reilly-out-at-fox-news/ar-BBA34hx?li=BBnb7Kz


    Fox News host Bill O'Reilly will not return to the network, 21st Century Fox announced Wednesday.

    "After a thorough and careful review of the allegations, the Company and Bill O'Reilly have agreed that Bill O'Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel," the network said in a statement.

    Reports emerged this week that 21st Century Fox was leaning toward ousting O'Reilly in the wake of sexual harassment allegations.
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  • john9001john9001 Senior Member Posts: 668 Senior Member
    It's always cheaper to settle, that's why trial lawyers get rich. Tort reform is the only way to stop trial lawyers.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 6,294 Senior Member
    pjames777 wrote: »
    Appears that Fox may cut ties with Bill O. Seems the Left has found a new tool in destroying conservative talk show hosts. Sexual misconduct, smear campaign that you are judged guilty until proven innocent. Don't care for O'Reilly but this character assasination tactic is B.S. IMHO.

    This is SOP for the left. If they can't beat you with the facts, they go the sexual harassment, sexual abuse, or rape route. The ONLY time they weren't enthusiastic about it was when Bill Clinton was an abuser and a rapist.

    They have used it on Republican politicians many times, and sometimes the charges are flat-out false. I don't know whether O'Reilly did it or not, but I did like his show most of the time and will be sorry that he's not coming back.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    john9001 wrote: »
    It's always cheaper to settle, that's why trial lawyers get rich. Tort reform is the only way to stop trial lawyers.


    My ex-SIL is HR director for a large nationwide hardware store chain. They have a policy to NEVER settle. It is more expensive to just start signing checks for everyone that complains, sets up an 'accident', does something stupid and blames the company, imagines some slight, etc.... now, if a manager steps over the line, and does something like O'Reiley did- he is fired and the company comes down HARD on them.

    They did the math and know that it is not cheaper to settle. They fight every one, and they do not get nearly as many suits as other similar companies do.
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  • 6EQUJ5 - WOW!6EQUJ5 - WOW! Banned Posts: 482 Member
    This is SOP for the left. If they can't beat you with the facts, they go the sexual harassment, sexual abuse, or rape route. The ONLY time they weren't enthusiastic about it was when Bill Clinton was an abuser and a rapist.

    They have used it on Republican politicians many times, and sometimes the charges are flat-out false. I don't know whether O'Reilly did it or not, but I did like his show most of the time and will be sorry that he's not coming back.

    Well said.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,333 Senior Member
    Ask "Gawker" magazine which is cheaper. (Hulk Hogan lawsuit.) Ask "The Raleigh News and Observer." Both of these went before a jury who awarded them much more money than a settlement would have...plus attorney fees.

    SOMETIMES it's cheaper to settle, SOMETIMES it's cheaper to go to a jury. Depends on the evidence. Given the makeup uncertainty of juries and the relative unpopularity of O'Reilly and taking into account the evidence and the fact this has not been an isolated incident, I bet they will settle.
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,792 Senior Member
    $13 Million will buy you a lot of really good legal council. It's over $2 million per case. It certainly smells like smoke to me. That said, I don't care even a little bit about this. He's a creepy old rich dude who was probably highly inappropriate to a handful of attractive younger women...sounds like a typical creepy old rich dude...
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 13,756 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Wouldn't surprise me. I think Orielly is a class A D-bag.
    Yep. Not that I watched him anyway.
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,470 Senior Member
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 5,638 Senior Member
    I suppose it's technically possible for me to give less of a crap about O'reilly than I do right now...

    Nope. I was wrong. Zero craps given.
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 3,971 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Wouldn't surprise me. I think Orielly is a class A D-bag.

    Plus 3.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,968 Senior Member
    I suppose he could always try to get his job back at Inside Edition
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,045 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    Ask "Gawker" magazine which is cheaper. (Hulk Hogan lawsuit.) Ask "The Raleigh News and Observer." Both of these went before a jury who awarded them much more money than a settlement would have...plus attorney fees.

    SOMETIMES it's cheaper to settle, SOMETIMES it's cheaper to go to a jury. Depends on the evidence. Given the makeup uncertainty of juries and the relative unpopularity of O'Reilly and taking into account the evidence and the fact this has not been an isolated incident, I bet they will settle.

    True, things are not as black and white as they used to be. A long time ago most companies looked to settle first and swiftly regardless of guilt, so they could keep potential embarrassment and costs at bay. The general feeling was that it was cheaper than litigation. This led to countless and costly abuses in the system, so that is not the case anymore.

    Cases are tried twice nowadays. First between opposing lawyers behind closed doors to mutually understand potential outcome and of course to try to "scare" the other party away from a settlement or suit by any means possible without having actuall legal oversight (judge). Only when the evidence is overwhelming does this result on a settlement out of court and ONLY if the lawyers of the defendant feel sure they will loose in court.

    In O'Reilly's case no lawyers would have paid $13 million if they though there was a chance of him being "redeemed" in court.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,333 Senior Member
    The "trial" between lawyers isn't really a trial, it's called Discovery.* Each party presents what it has before a judge, who determines based on law, what can and cannot be admitted in the trial. Therefore no last-minute information without exceptions.

    The Raleigh News and Observer case excelled the state guidelines on the amount awarded and stunned the judge. So did The Gawker suit.

    *Discovery is also true in criminal cases.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,489 Senior Member
    When they start prosecuting women for lying about this kind of thing it might stop some of this nonsense. Accusations are not proof. Gene L can tell you all about evidence vs. accusations, if he is so inclined.

    As to O'Reilly losing his job, the news media eats their own on a regular basis. And I don't like his stands on firearms and a lot of other things. Maybe he will be replaced with someone with a bit more level headed when interviewing guests, too. His shouting matches are legend, and make him look like a weak bully in a power position. I don't watch his show, and haven't in a very long time.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,697 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    I've been hearing of the sexual misconduct allegations, and know he's been on vacation for all of last week and apparently will be away all of this week. His current fill in is Dana Perino, former press secretary for George W. Bush. If O'Reilly really is given the boot, it will be interesting to see if his spot is filled by a woman.

    Here's a pointer to an NBC report on the situation.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/bill-o-reilly-reportedly-out-fox-news-n748236

    FWIW, I like O'Reilly, and consider him the best of the 3 prime time hosts (O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity) that Fox has. Hannity usually has mostly guests with a similar view of his own. When he does have one with an opposing view, he usually has a second guest who shares his view and they pound the crap out of the guest with the opposing view. Carlson either lets some loon ramble incoherently, or laughs at his opponent during their debate/discussion. And, say what you will about Bill, he has a lot of guests with views contrary to his. Sometimes he even lets them get a word in edgewise.

    I also like Martha McCallum who currently holds down the 7 p.m. EDT time slot. It would not disappoint me if she were to take O'Reilly's time slot. I also like Dana Perino.

    :that:

    And I too like O'Reilly

    I like Martha also. I think she, like Dana Perino, is a beautiful Blonde woman with a Brain. These girls along with Laura Ingraham add fuel to the fire that Conservative women are better looking and smarter than libtard babes.

    I think Martha has been dubbed to take Megan Kelly's spot. I think Dana Perino would be a good replacement for Bill. However, the opera ain't over til the fat lady sings and Bill may just fight this crap and win. That would be a plus for our side, and a slap in the liberal's face.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,697 Senior Member
    This seems to be the number one go to plan in the Libtard's play book. They tried it with Justice Clarence Thomas, they succeded in ruining Herman Cain's bid for president and they tried it again with Trump. It's easy to pay a few bimbos off to say he did this or that. But Trump, like Clarence Thomas didn't bat an eye. They stood their ground. With Cain, it was his wife that got him to quit pursuing it. He was ready to fight it but it was killing his family.

    But with a Dummycrap there's a double standard. Look at JFK and Slick Willy!
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,697 Senior Member
    I usually don't read crap like this because I know the left is sniping at the conservatives. But I got curious. It seems O'Reilly is already out. He took a $25 million payout to leave. This sucks. And there's absolutely no solid proof he did anything.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,333 Senior Member
    Slick Willy was impeached. He was excoriated when it happened, and JFK's sex life was off-limits to reporters by consent. So was Eisenhower's. So was Warren G. Harding's and so was Lyndon Johnson's. Tricky Richard opened the season on presidents' personal lives.

    Not seeing the evidence for and against O'Reilly, I couldn't say there was no proof. Someone thought there was enough proof to pay out $13M and for Fox to fire O'Reilly, who had the most popular show in News.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,697 Senior Member
    $13 Million will buy you a lot of really good legal council. It's over $2 million per case. It certainly smells like smoke to me. That said, I don't care even a little bit about this. He's a creepy old rich dude who was probably highly inappropriate to a handful of attractive younger women...sounds like a typical creepy old rich dude...

    And of course those innocent sweet babes were totally without fault.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,792 Senior Member
    There were transcripts of recordings available of his unsolicited phone sex towards a former coworker. These transcripts were filed in court in one of the lawsuits he payed a big settlement for. The actual tapes were never released, because of the settlement, but again lots of smoke. For those interested in reading...

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/oreilly-falafel-suit-turns-five?page=15

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