LR-308 = Yes/No?

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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 37,385 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Too late.

    I have 7+ AR15s and they are all built by me.

    You're an idiot! What about the warranty?
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
    Zee
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    You're an idiot! What about the warranty?

    Guess I'm screwed.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • TrueTone911TrueTone911 Senior Member Posts: 5,865 Senior Member
    If you don't have one, and you want one...then scratch the itch!

    Why not a stripped lower though?
    I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
    Groucho Marx
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 12,602 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    You're an idiot! What about the warranty?
    Your. Get it right.

    Sent from my SM-S907VL using Tapatalk
    Overkill is underrated.
  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 37,385 Senior Member
    Your. Get it right.

    Sent from my SM-S907VL using Tapatalk

    Missed ya. Completely.
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
    Zee
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 17,106 Senior Member
    I voted "Yes" only because of the caliber.

    I know you have plenty of access to ammo.
    However, I'd go 6.5CM if I was building one.
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 13,915 Senior Member
    I voted yes because why would I talk someone out of buying another gun? Isn't that against forum rules?

    I guess it would be kind of cool to have. If it turns your crank Zee, I am happy for you.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    If you don't have one, and you want one...then scratch the itch!

    Why not a stripped lower though?

    I save at most $50 going with the cheapest parts.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,115 Senior Member
    I voted yes before I saw what you were using but if it fills a nitch, go for it but with an 18" barrel and a 6x scope, I would just consider it a .308 rather than a LR -.308.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,465 Senior Member
    My .308 is being built. A "medium range" rifle for paper. I'll post pictures whenever.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,637 Senior Member
    Nightime pig gun - yes.

    Anything else. . .I'm a little more positive on it than "meh". Just having a hard time seeing what a bolt gun can do as well with less weight and fewer parts.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,341 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Not worth the $1,500 for questionable accuracy regardless the box full of mags I have for the M14/M1A.

    Mossberg MVP 308 uses M14 mags. Getcha one them down the road to use the mags
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,115 Senior Member
    Mossberg MVP 308 uses M14 mags. Getcha one them down the road to use the mags

    I picked one of those up last year and put a Burris MTAC 3.5x10x42 on it but haven't had time to work up a load for it. I was hoping Zee would go with a bolt for ideas but I have a sizeable supply of 168gr A-MAX's and my load will probably be based on them. I have an MVP in .308 and in 5.56 and I'm happy with both of them.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,709 Senior Member
    Green light.
    He can shoot as far as he wants with a 18" barrel for the application he is considering
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,115 Senior Member
    If you don't have one, and you want one...then scratch the itch!

    Why not a stripped lower though?
    Green light.
    He can shoot as far as he wants with a 18" barrel for the application he is considering

    Absolutely but that barrel length and magnification would not be considered a "long range" combination for us mere mortals.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 5,935 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Absolutely but that barrel length and magnification would not be considered a "long range" combination for us mere mortals.

    I am fairly sure Zee is say LR-308, as a model name, not a designated Long Range .308 rifle.

    LR-308 is what DPMS calls their .308 sized ARs. Instead of using the generic AR-10 monicker and driving Pegasus up the wall.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    I am fairly sure Zee is say LR-308, as a model name, not a designated Long Range .308 rifle.

    LR-308 is what DPMS calls their .308 sized ARs. Instead of using the generic AR-10 monicker and driving Pegasus up the wall.

    Correct. The description as per the link I posted regarding the Upper states:

    AR-Stoner LR-308 A3 Upper Receiver Assembly 308 Winchester 18" Barrel w/ 15" M-Lok Handguard
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    On a side note, I think I am on Pegasus "Ignore List" as I've been unable to garner any response from him for about a year or more.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Absolutely but that barrel length and magnification would not be considered a "long range" combination for us mere mortals.

    XGFJKsV.jpg

    This is three shots from my 16" Colt 901 and the 1-6x scope I'm going to use. While 600 yards is not long range, this example just proves a phrase I'm quite fond on:

    "If you can see it, you can hit it. If not, aim higher or get a bigger gun."
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,260 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    On a side note, I think I am on Pegasus "Ignore List" as I've been unable to garner any response from him for about a year or more.

    Only yourself to blame.........pound to a penny HvyMax not been in touch neither?

    cjp wrote: »..... Oh dear God, I've admitted to liking something Limey.I'll never hear the end of this.

    Jayhawker wrote: »...But seriously Shush....

    Big Chief wrote: ».........walking around with a greasy butt ain't no fun, though!

     


     

  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,195 Senior Member
    My main hunting rifle the last few years has been a DPMS LR-308 with an 18" barrel. Most of my shots have been 130 yards or less, but I have run it out to 500 yards on steel, and it will do that no problem.

    I vote yes. Because it's always good to buy more guns
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    Only yourself to blame.........pound to a penny HvyMax not been in touch neither?

    Oh, that wasn't a complaint.

    :wink:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    My main hunting rifle the last few years has been a DPMS LR-308 with an 18" barrel. Most of my shots have been 130 yards or less, but I have run it out to 500 yards on steel, and it will do that no problem.

    I vote yes. Because it's always good to buy more guns

    I considered that rifle as well. But, I would end up changing the butt-stock, forend, and the grip so it was no longer a cost-effective option.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,180 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    You're an idiot! What about the warranty?

    He’s got a lifetime warranty on all of those, and he lives right close to the builder.
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 1,664 Senior Member
    Just be sure to use a bipod that doesn't swivel to squeeze all of the accuracy out of what you end up buying...
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,911 Senior Member
    I had similar goals to what you described when I bought the Remington R-25, a few years back. It is actually nothing more than a DPMS LR-308 with a 20" medium contour barrel, smooth free-float hand guard and A-2 stock...and a camo paint job. In my case, I happened to 'pop off' at a gun store, while fondling an LR-308, that if I could find one with a 7mm-08 20" medium contour, I would buy it on the spot. The counter guy turned around and grabbed an R-25 off the rack and handed it to me. I put it on layaway and picked it up a couple days later.

    After replacing the trigger with a National Match, I regularly shoot under 3/4" groups from a field type rest with my necked down .308 hand loads, with a 3-9x40 Redfield scope. I consider this my all purpose hunting rifle, although I haven't shot anything with it yet, but paper. My hunting opportunities have been erratic since buying it.

    I have not seen another with 7mm-08 barrel, which I like a lot, so while I might eventually modify the stock, hand guard, and scope, I likely won't ever get rid of it. But, as for the DPMS brand, I like them fine. As for PSA, I like them fine, too. My own personal horror story from a build using their parts involved an upper of unknown label that I purchased at a gun show. Once I replaced the cheesy hand guard and torqued the barrel nut properly, it has been fine, too. I haven't tested it for accuracy, beyond shooting steel core military surplus bullets in my Varget hand loads, but it easily shoots 2MOA, using a 1-4x Leupold shotgun scope with really thick cross hairs.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 19,200 Senior Member
    JKP wrote: »
    Just be sure to use a bipod that doesn't swivel to squeeze all of the accuracy out of what you end up buying...

    Ha!!!

    The irony...........the picture above with my Colt 901 and 600 target.........I shot that group with the last of my non-swivel bipods (you see attached to the rifle).

    I HATE that bipod, but it's the only Harris I have with a pic-rail adapter. I need to rectify that. Did I mention I HATE that bipod?

    :angry:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,115 Senior Member
    I am fairly sure Zee is say LR-308, as a model name, not a designated Long Range .308 rifle.

    LR-308 is what DPMS calls their .308 sized ARs. Instead of using the generic AR-10 monicker and driving Pegasus up the wall.

    Got it, I suddenly feel a little smarter.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,946 Senior Member
    I voted no because I personally for hunting Medium game and hogs consider a .308 a 4 hundred-5 hundred yard gun max. That would meet your minimum standards but with heavier bullets it would be very minimal. I would apt for the .300 WSM or at the very least the .30-06 for this beast. You can do it in a short action and you will push 180 grain bullets 300 FPS faster than the .308, making it quite deadly(deadly from the stand point of better bullet performance) at 500 or even 600 yards. Don't limit yourself. You've got the .308 niche covered already. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,709 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    I voted no because I personally for hunting Medium game and hogs consider a .308 a 4 hundred-5 hundred yard gun max. That would meet your minimum standards but with heavier bullets it would be very minimal. I would apt for the .300 WSM or at the very least the .30-06 for this beast. You can do it in a short action and you will push 180 grain bullets 300 FPS faster than the .308, making it quite deadly(deadly from the stand point of better bullet performance) at 500 or even 600 yards. Don't limit yourself. You've got the .308 niche covered already. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

    You have read Zee’s posts for a long time now
    Why would you even assume that he would be using or would want to use 180 grain bullets for pigs out to 500 with a emphasis out to 300?
    He already has plenty of 308 Winchester ammunition on hand, and he would either have to purchase or reload for the other cartridges you were mentioning, and those larger cartridges are not necessary for his goals.
    Almost every time with the 308 Winchester he’s going to be using a 168 grain Amax, there is one other bullet he might you sometimes but the majority of the time that’s the bullet he will use.
    Why are you making an argument against the distance you listed when he said in his original post it will be out to 500 yards hunting rifle, with an emphasis out to 300 yards- with a likelihood it would be used at night.
    He has already stated that he has other toys for further distances-So he is not limiting himself with is option.

    That being said, there’s nothing wrong with you preferring have a 30-06 or a 300 Winchester short Magnum.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
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