Nikki Haley

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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 15,360 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I'm thinking Juarez.....or possibly Antarctica...

    I'd say "Mars", except it looks like we might actually be going there sometime fairly soon. How about the heart of the Sun?
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,326 Senior Member
    Does that logic work on your wife? But the ammo is cheaper! Best case scenario still 1/500th of what was just spent over 10 years

    You can throw all you want at this. The bottom line is the UN has been put on notice that the US is not an open ended ATM.
    Once again your twisting numbers and subjects to make your anti Republican agenda. Something good has happened. It has nothing to do with a
    projected deficit that the Democrats project over 10 years without taking into account any cuts in spending.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 17,918 Senior Member
    Nikki Haley/Condoleeza Rice- - - - - - -or vice versa- - - - -2024! Start printing the bumper stickers and campaign signs now!
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 8,971 Senior Member
    Does that logic work on your wife? But the ammo is cheaper! Best case scenario still 1/500th of what was just spent over 10 years

    Seriously? One throw away line about how libs are all screaming about people keeping their own money, but then want to have us continue pumping cash into an organization that has nothing but anti-US feelings at heart, and that’s all you focus on?
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,059 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Seriously? One throw away line about how libs are all screaming about people keeping their own money, but then want to have us continue pumping cash into an organization that has nothing but anti-US feelings at heart, and that’s all you focus on?
    Once the bullet points on this months liberal newsletter are exhausted you just have to get creative with your “logic”.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 17,918 Senior Member
    League of Nations- - - - -United Nations- - - - -I wonder what strike three is going to be?
    :uhm:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,503 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I'm thinking Juarez.....or possibly Antarctica...

    And tell me exactly what you have against penguins.................. :tooth: :rotflmao:
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,792 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I could give three craps about tying in the cuts to the UN to paying off the deficit. We need to cut spending at the UN because it is a BS organization that hates us.
    Sure. That's a perfectly logical. I get that conservatives hate the UN. I will even agree that it's a fairly weak organization with limited utility, although not zero.

    As for them hating us, countries aren't that different than people. Treat people with respect and dignity and most people will return the favor. Some will be jerks no matter what. You are free to treat other people however you want, but you can't treat them however you want without consequences, even if you're the biggest, strongest, richest on the block.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 15,360 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    League of Nations- - - - -United Nations- - - - -I wonder what strike three is going to be?
    :uhm:

    Obama. The legacy of Wilson lives on!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it, you may shoot it. If you shoot it, you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody – and he finds out about it – he may be very angry with you. --Jeff Cooper
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,326 Senior Member
    In aprox figures, the US funds 22% of the UN budget which consists of 193 Countries to the tune of around 8 Bil. yearly.

    Don't forget the 25Mil the US pays for building maintenance and another 7 Mil. for security and who the heck knows how many millions more on parking, transportation, catered food and things we will never know.

    Seems that when it comes to the UN, the rest of the world owes the US respect if nothing else. Send the HQ to some 3rd world country and cut back the % we pay and there goes a huge portion of our budget back into the US account.
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 4,959 Senior Member
    Sure. That's a perfectly logical. I get that conservatives hate the UN. I will even agree that it's a fairly weak organization with limited utility, although not zero.

    As for them hating us, countries aren't that different than people. Treat people with respect and dignity and most people will return the favor. Some will be jerks no matter what. You are free to treat other people however you want, but you can't treat them however you want without consequences, even if you're the biggest, strongest, richest on the block.


    Your Messiah spent eight years handing out our money to any country who asked and toured the world kissing ass and apologizing for America's behavior and just how much respect did it generate? You are seriously deluded.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 15,360 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Your Messiah spent eight years handing out our money to any country who asked and toured the world kissing ass and apologizing for America's behavior and just how much respect did it generate? You are seriously deluded.

    WORD.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it, you may shoot it. If you shoot it, you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody – and he finds out about it – he may be very angry with you. --Jeff Cooper
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,541 Senior Member
    The UN is very fortunate they have Nikki Haley speaking to them...I would be inclined to just go country on them....
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,326 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    The UN is very fortunate they have Nikki Haley speaking to them...I would be inclined to just go country on them....

    Like maybe starting immediately we will give zero dollars and no longer participate in your meetings? You have 90 days to get out of the property in New York. On the 91st day the building will be demolished along with all of the listening, recording and whatever devices
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,541 Senior Member
    Diver43 wrote: »
    Like maybe starting immediately we will give zero dollars and no longer participate in your meetings? You have 90 days to get out of the property in New York. On the 91st day the building will be demolished along with all of the listening, recording and whatever devices

    Yep....and you're all going to be jailed until you pay your parking and traffic tickets.....
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 6,298 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    Yep....and you're all going to be jailed until you pay your parking and traffic tickets.....

    Then they would be out overnight, and not 90 days....LOL
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 6,298 Senior Member
    Sure. That's a perfectly logical. I get that conservatives hate the UN. I will even agree that it's a fairly weak organization with limited utility, although not zero.

    As for them hating us, countries aren't that different than people. Treat people with respect and dignity and most people will return the favor. Some will be jerks no matter what. You are free to treat other people however you want, but you can't treat them however you want without consequences, even if you're the biggest, strongest, richest on the block.

    All we have done is tell them we're not bending over anymore, and we're not going to be sheep with their One-World Government schemes anymore. I hope Trump continues to be even more blunt with them as time goes on. If they don't like it, I hope he tells them to PISS-OFF!
    Political correctness is a liberal degrading of the freedom of speech. George Orwell's 1984 famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see Newspeak)." Meanwhile, the beatings will continue until morale improves around here.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,335 Senior Member
    The Russians back in the cold war days used to send out pairs of agents to county governments everywhere and copy public records on file. So somewhere, they have/had records on where you live, the public utilities in your hometown, property tax information and whatever. The FBI followed them, but since they weren't breaking any laws and because they had diplomatic immunity if they did, there was nothing to be done. That's the UN. I doubt the US did the same thing in the Soviet Union since there were fewer public records.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 17,918 Senior Member
    The parking problem could be resolved easily- - - - -impound illegally parked vehicles and sell them to cover any outstanding fine balances the particular embassy that's in control of the vehicle owes. Nope, the UN is in Noo Yawk, and doing something like that would take somebody with more balls than De Blasio could ever manage to scrape up!
    Jerry
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,792 Senior Member
    Might as well kick out the embassies too while we're at it. Lots of high value DC realestate being taken up. Plus we could save a bunch eliminating the entire state department! We've got all the diplomacy we'll ever need floating silently thousands of meters below the ocean surface and deep in silos around the country.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,541 Senior Member
    Might as well kick out the embassies too while we're at it. Lots of high value DC realestate being taken up. Plus we could save a bunch eliminating the entire state department! We've got all the diplomacy we'll ever need floating silently thousands of meters below the ocean surface and deep in silos around the country.

    You know? Every once in awhile you come up with some damned good ideas......that would also take care of that "diplomatic immunity"nonsense....
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,326 Senior Member
    Might as well kick out the embassies too while we're at it. Lots of high value DC realestate being taken up. Plus we could save a bunch eliminating the entire state department! We've got all the diplomacy we'll ever need floating silently thousands of meters below the ocean surface and deep in silos around the country.

    What the heck does that have to do with funding the UN? While not a half bad idea, It is like comparing apples and beachballs.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 4,959 Senior Member
    Might as well kick out the embassies too while we're at it. Lots of high value DC realestate being taken up. Plus we could save a bunch eliminating the entire state department! We've got all the diplomacy we'll ever need floating silently thousands of meters below the ocean surface and deep in silos around the country.

    Now you're just being silly, having a little tantrum are we?
    snake284 wrote: »
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,335 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    The parking problem could be resolved easily- - - - -impound illegally parked vehicles and sell them to cover any outstanding fine balances the particular embassy that's in control of the vehicle owes. Nope, the UN is in Noo Yawk, and doing something like that would take somebody with more balls than De Blasio could ever manage to scrape up!
    Jerry

    They've got diplomatic plates. Can't impound them. Which I understand as we have automobiles with diplomatic plates in other countries that most likely do the same thing. It's not a hill to die on.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,541 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    They've got diplomatic plates. Can't impound them. Which I understand as we have automobiles with diplomatic plates in other countries that most likely do the same thing. It's not a hill to die on.

    We're talking about kicking the UN out of the country....if we got to that point I don't think diplomatic plates would carry much weight....
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,335 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    We're talking about kicking the UN out of the country....if we got to that point I don't think diplomatic plates would carry much weight....

    Not really talking about kicking out the UN. It has its place, but we shouldn't pay the bill for it on our own.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 17,918 Senior Member
    Just make a compromise- - - - -they can keep the plates when we auction the cars off!
    LOL!
    Jerry
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,669 Senior Member
    Sure. That's a perfectly logical. I get that conservatives hate the UN. I will even agree that it's a fairly weak organization with limited utility, although not zero.

    It has limited utility as a worldwide disaster relief vehicle. But it is inefficient because we allow rogue governments to dole out the relief, thereby taking credit for it and staving off the revolutions that are needed to revive their countries.

    Face it - the poor will always be with us, in spite of the best efforts that we are capable of. Masses of humanity have to die to fix what is wrong with the world. It's a terrible and heartless thing to say, but it has always been true. Evil leaders will starve millions to control the ones who are surviving. Mao did it, Stalin did it, N. Korea is still doing it, and most of the third world and beyond is perpetually doing it. The only ones who can be helped are the ones who have already started handling the problem, and if any are succeeding, it is because most of the starving masses are dead and gone. They will survive because they are managing their birth rates to consume no more than they can produce, rather than letting nature thin them out randomly.
    As for them hating us, countries aren't that different than people. Treat people with respect and dignity and most people will return the favor. Some will be jerks no matter what. You are free to treat other people however you want, but you can't treat them however you want without consequences, even if you're the biggest, strongest, richest on the block.

    That is marginally true in western societies, but wholly ridiculous in much of the rest of the world. Their leaders will use the masses to beg for western aid, but will then hoard it and dole it out to those who will do their bidding. Asians and Middle Easterners mostly believe that any other behavior is a sign of weakness and stupidity.

    As for the UN being useful to preventing war, that is total hogwash. Treaty alliances between like-minded countries can often accomplish that, using carrot/stick methods or 'back channels,' but by the time the UN can agree on anything, a military situation has already changed ten times. The nations with veto power are always the nations involved in any major conflict, so they can merely veto anything that doesn't serve their interests, and they always do.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 6,298 Senior Member
    The UN is useful for one thing, and one thing only....bringing food and medical aid to poor countries. Other than that, about the biggest thing they've done is to promote socialism and the concept of one-world government throughout the world, with one exception being the U.S., and that was almost finalized by the socialist in chief Barack Hussein Obama.
    Political correctness is a liberal degrading of the freedom of speech. George Orwell's 1984 famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see Newspeak)." Meanwhile, the beatings will continue until morale improves around here.
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,792 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    Not really talking about kicking out the UN. It has its place, but we shouldn't pay the bill for it on our own.
    We don't. We make up ~25% of total global gdp and pay about 25% for the UN between their regular budget and peace keeping efforts. See exact numbers above.
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