Range Report Hihway Patrolman, DW .45 Pointman and Buck Mark

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 30,712 Senior Member
Well since it warmed up some I thought I'd hit the range this morning for some post holiday relaxation.

All and all a good range visit, except for the Buck Mark...........I decided to do the spring flip and yep a few shots and then nothing in every magazine I tried (3) and 3 different types .22 ammo. I had read the newer springs do not lend themselves to the flip.......only those that were made like they used to for the Silhouette and Varmint pistols since they changed them.

Seems the trigger is not resetting which is exactly what I read has happened to some folks. I will reexamine it while I have it apart again to make sure I got everything back correctly. Only need to loosen 2 screws to get it all apart for the flip anyhow, one in front of the trigger guard and one behind the rear sight. Fairly simple. Actually from a YouTube video you only remove the pin then the spring but put the long leg of the front on the left not the right as it came. You don't flip it front to back.

So back to the drawing board on that. There is a reset test you can do as you have it apart. I did put a fired .22 brass in the chamber and it did make indentations after I had it back together.

The flip gave it a sweet 2 1/2 pound trigger pull compared to the over 5 lb it had, but it worked. nothing more frustrating than pulling the trigger and it won't go bang..................

It shot alright for the shots I did get off. It is the bottom target.

To make myself feel better I whipped out the Ruger MKII Target Govt Model and the top target is 50 shots.

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Next came my DW Pointman .45 ACP firing 230 grain Federal FMJ from a 100 pak. 4 mags.

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Last was my model 28 Highway Patrolman 6.5 grains Unique under 158 grain Missouri Bullet Co coated SWCs. Except the top holes were some Hornady 158 XTPs with a good dose of Win 296 pushing them out the barrel.

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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 22,782 Senior Member
    Nice
    Ya missed that one tgt, hey.
    I have a need for speed
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Oh, I was using the 10 yard "Cheat" range.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 15,685 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Nice
    Ya missed that one tgt, hey.

    Shhhhh! Don't tell him...
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
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    The unfired .22s in the pic laying on the table are some of those I had to manually eject using the BM.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Big Al, can you think of any other reason besides the sear spring that would cause the trigger not to reset on the Buck Mark?
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Anybody know where I can get a sear spring for a Browning Silhouette/Varmint pistol to use in my Buck Mark? Eveywhere I looked is sold out.

    Apparently they changed them all over to the newer design, I don't quite know the differences, in the bends/length/shape whatever.......but it would be nice to keep that 2 1/2 pound trigger pull on my BM and keep reliability at the same time.

    https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/B5152881

    Product: Browning Buckmark Sear Spring Silhouette and Varmint
    Product Code: B5152881
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Here is the flip I did..........AKA 'The Heggis (sp) Flip'

    I didn't have to take my grips off, though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwm6BL_H5GY
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  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 1,128 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Anybody know where I can get a sear spring for a Browning Silhouette/Varmint pistol to use in my Buck Mark? Eveywhere I looked is sold out...


    Is this the one you're looking for?

    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1331970A
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Spk wrote: »
    Is this the one you're looking for?

    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1331970A

    Yes, Thank You!!!

    I looked a few weeks ago and they had 0 Bal. Ordered.

    That Heggis Flip is a cool trick, but just try and gettin the original sear spring back the way it was.............that is without taking the grips off and trying to remove the sear pin.........I didn't wanna do that, but I started. This is a long video, but once I got Humty Dumpty apart........the trick is puttin him back together again.

    This fellow figured it all out.............I know about removing the mag-disconnect bar if I choose which requires taking off the grip. The other parts will fall out if you ain't careful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DlCK0q36Kc

    I needed to learn about my pistol anyhow, just didn't wanna do it all right now.

    They say these Silhouette/Varmint springs lend a much better trigger pull as they are, but also allow the Heggis Flip to actually work and not have the trigger reset issues I/others have had after doing it.

    The spring in your link actually has different bends than my factory original, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I read Browning changed them all to the newer kind like on mine.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    I haven't felt so.... well ........stupid since I took a SS Ruger MKII apart in the 80s......I mean all the way down, way past the usual, not just the lever bit and receiver and grip frame like in the manual................I handed my friend/gunsmith gallon Zip-Loc baggie with all the parts inside...........he finally got it all back and gave me a good chewing out.

    The Buck Mark doesn't seem so hard, AFTER you figure out how all the parts come apart and go back together again. What I haven't done is remove the pin retaining the sear where that groove/notch is on the bottom where the long leg of the sear spring rides. The tension I released when I did the flip makes it hard to re-insert back to the original configuration without taking the sear out. Must be a way, I just ain't found it yet.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Something funny at Imgur............may be some of my pics were in that motion mode on my I-phone?????????????? I hit the wrong button when I took them.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    tJQZNxZ.mp4

    Now the link won't appear on my post????
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
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    OK some my pics had "Motion Sickness" I reckon

    Ruger MKII Tgt Govt Model target top, Buck Mark bottom.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    OK, I see now you must remove a bunch more parts like the sear and the safety to reinstall the sear spring the way it came from the factory.................what a PITA the Buck Marks are. You take off the grips or one piece grip like mine and parts fall out on both sides.

    Anyway, I'll wait on the new Varmint/Silhouette spring which I have on order. Maybe I can finagle it in without the hassle, if not back to the video.

    The spring tension is released on the sear spring once you do that niffy "Easy" flip, trouble is it takes a lot of disassembly /reassembly to put it back in its original configuration if the flip doesn't work and causes the trigger not to reset.

    Joy!
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Probly gotta find the ammo that Browning likes.:up:
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    It ain't a bad little shooter. I'm learning more about its innards than I cared to (self induced), but when it all said and done I believe I'll be a happy Buck Mark owner.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
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  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 1,128 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    OK, I see now you must remove a bunch more parts like the sear and the safety to reinstall the sear spring the way it came from the factory.................what a PITA the Buck Marks are. You take off the grips or one piece grip like mine and parts fall out on both sides.

    Anyway, I'll wait on the new Varmint/Silhouette spring which I have on order. Maybe I can finagle it in without the hassle, if not back to the video.

    The spring tension is released on the sear spring once you do that niffy "Easy" flip, trouble is it takes a lot of disassembly /reassembly to put it back in its original configuration if the flip doesn't work and causes the trigger not to reset.

    Joy!

    It ain't no 1911! You can take a 1911 down to individual pins and springs and have it reassembled in no time.

    I have a Ruger Mark II and it's a pain to disassemble /reassemble. You have to follow a procedure or you won't get it back together....And if you do get it back together "by accident", chances are it won't fire at all. Procedure, procedure, procedure. It's a pain.

    Hope that new spring works out for you.
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,617 Senior Member
    No N-frame porn? I'm disappointed Chief.:tissue:
    WWJMBD?

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    No N-frame porn? I'm disappointed Chief.:tissue:

    Sure, I had my Highway Patrolman model 28 there too............Imgur didn't like the live motion pics.........
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    Good shooting my friend! I'm glad the folks here are not afraid to tinker with their guns. No guts, no glory!!!

    I LOVE taking guns apart and finding out how they work...

    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 22,782 Senior Member
    Best shooting Hihway Patrolman I ever shot belonged to MRS BML
    I have a need for speed
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,344 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Best shooting Hihway Patrolman I ever shot belonged to MRS BML

    No doubt! That's a superb handgun.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 6,752 Senior Member
    Nice score, Chief! I love DW pistols.
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Good shooting my friend! I'm glad the folks here are not afraid to tinker with their guns. No guts, no glory!!!

    I LOVE taking guns apart and finding out how they work...
    Ya know how they work?? By leaving them in one piece! :jester:
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,827 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »


    Ya know how they work?? By leaving them in one piece! :jester:
    :agree: :that: :rotflmao:
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »
    Nice score, Chief! I love DW pistols.


    Ya know how they work?? By leaving them in one piece! :jester:

    No sense of adventure!!!
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton

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