A Glimmer of Hope at Kent State

sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior MemberPosts: 1,295 Senior Member

A college grad who understands the second amendment and meaning of "Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic".

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-story-behind-the-viral-photo-of-a-kent-state-graduate-posing-with-her-cap-—-and-a-rifle/ar-AAxnWX1?li=BBnb7Kz

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  • centermass556centermass556 Senior Member Posts: 3,429 Senior Member
    edited May 19 #3
    Maybe the Kent State massacre wouldn't have happened if there was more of this on Campus then

    I'm not happy the students were there to protest the war - but you don't shoot unarmed civilians. 
    "To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,866 Senior Member
    edited May 20 #4
    That was a very sad incident. I remember it well. Some mark it up to poorly traind NG troops, weekend warriors and all it took was one trigger happy individual to start the shooting. Whatever the cause,it was just needless. But on the flip side, students and people in general need to understand that this is a grave possibility when protesting and when NG is on scene. Now days they could handle these riots with non lethal means. A few tazers could have stopped the students in their tracks. But when you give troops loaded firearms this is a real possibility. The troops are trained to defend themselves.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,295 Senior Member
    snake284 said:
    That was a very sad incident. I remember it well. Some mark it up to poorly traind NG troops, weekend warriors and all it took was one trigger happy individual to start the shooting. Whatever the cause,it was just needless. But on the flip side, students and people in general need to understand that this is a grave possibility when protesting and when NG is on scene. Now days they could handle these riots with non lethal means. A few tazers could have stopped the students in their tracks. But when you give troops loaded firearms this is a real possibility. The troops are trained to defend themselves.
    Around 2002 I created a civil unrest class for members of my National Guard unit. I included Kent State as an example of what can go horribly wrong in these situations. My research as expected yielded conflicting information. I graduated from high school less than a month after Kent State. I remember the anti Viet Nam war protests (in this case the bombing of Cambodia) very well. Many followed the rules of peaceful assembly and protest while others turned into riots. Protesters (rioters) at Kent State were throwing rocks and bottles at the soldiers and advancing. The soldiers retreated as far as possible. The results were Very, very sad indeed. Several of the students killed and wounded were collateral damage not being involved in the protest. When interviewed some protesters reported being told by organizers (agitators) not to worry about the National Guard as they were not allowed to have ammunition! Yes. soldiers are not required to surrender their God given right to self defense.

  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,786 Senior Member
    My dad was in the 180th Infantry regiment, which was the Oklahoma national guard. He knew several old-timers who were involved in the Red River Bridge War There was an ongoing argument going on for several years over the the Red River boundary line. A Texas entrepreneur built a new bridge alongside the old one, intended as a toll bridge. To make a long story short, they were fussing over something, and the Governor of Texas put a chain across the new bridge, and sent the Texas Rangers to guard it. The NG General ordered his men to fix bayonets and march across the bridge and remove the chain. The Rangers met them at the bridge to parlay, and the men kept marching, bayonets in the attack position...all the way across, with the Rangers hustling in front of them, and removed the chain. It 'stayed removed,' and the issue was eventually decided in a court decision that both sides honored, although both sides were still bitching about it when I was a little kid.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,927 Senior Member
    That young lady, Kaitlin Bennett, has been getting death threats from people that don't like her carrying the rifle. The 'non-violent' Left sure does want to kill anybody that doesn't agree with their particular ideas on anything.
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,295 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    That young lady, Kaitlin Bennett, has been getting death threats from people that don't like her carrying the rifle. The 'non-violent' Left sure does want to kill anybody that doesn't agree with their particular ideas on anything.

    And Anti Fascist ANTIFA is more hardcore Fascist than any who have preceded them. It is very confusing. No. Not for me. For the Progressive Liberal Socialist brainwashed morons.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,927 Senior Member
    ANTIFA is the definition of Fascist dogma with a little Che Guevara revolutionary thrown in. That bunch sure has been quiet of late. Maybe they got kicked out of their parent's basement and had to get jobs and work for a living. I expect them to show up and start making noise this fall during the mid term elections, though.

    Progressives and Socialists here in the U.S. are just Communist Lite in my estimation. The problem with both is that they want the fruits of labor without putting in any of the labor themselves. Like my Granddad used to say, "Them folk was born tired and haven't got rested yet."  :D
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



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