Ruger model 77

Johnny rebJohnny reb MemberPosts: 384 Member
I was in the process of changing the factory action screws out for allen heads. Now I'm having problems getting them torqued right so the floor plate will open and shut right. The floor plate will shut easy and I can't get them to drop open or I can't get the screws times right and floor plates won't close. I'm sure I'm not the only one that gets frustrated with these. Any tips are welcome

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,946 Senior Member
    Johnny reb wrote: »
    I was in the process of changing the factory action screws out for allen heads. Now I'm having problems getting them torqued right so the floor plate will open and shut right. The floor plate will shut easy and I can't get them to drop open or I can't get the screws times right and floor plates won't close. I'm sure I'm not the only one that gets frustrated with these. Any tips are welcome

    Take it back apart and try again. You've got something not quite lined up right.
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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 37,385 Senior Member
    If you mean by "times right" that you want them facing the same direction relative to each other and the gun, you will have to grind something for that to happen. So, just get them torqued and call it good.
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  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 384 Member
    I should of worded that different I'm not training to have the screws timed as in the same direction. I'm talking torqued the right way that the floor plate will open and close properly. I've spent over an hour messing with one rifle. I torque the front (angled) action screw first then back then middle. I know I'm not the only one that has ever had problems with Rugers action screws.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,169 Senior Member
    Are you replacements too long, wrong size... different thread or should use a different torque value?
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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,403 Senior Member
    Dont torque any screw up tight before you tighten the others.

    Had that same problem with the Ruger mod 77 in 204. All the instructions I read were to torque the action screw to the proper level then torque the rest. Doing it that way the floor plate locked up tight. After using the sailors book of cuss words a few times and adding a few extra words I experimented and finally solved the problem.

    Here is how I did it.

    Put all 3 screws in and turn them till they start to tighten. Give each screw a half turn starting with the middle one and moving back and forth till you get all of them tight by hand. Keep checking the floor plate as you do this. Then use your toque wrench on a lower setting on each screw starting with the middle one oand slowly increase the torque to the setting you require.

    The last one to torque up to the level required is the action screw.

    Hope this helps.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,031 Senior Member
    The center screw needs to be just barely snug- - - -not torqued at all. I use purple Loctite on mine to make sure it doesn't fall out.
    Jerry
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Is it possible that the floor plate problem has a cause other than the action screws?

    Do the new srews clear the floor plate and latch surfaces when closed?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,946 Senior Member
    I've had this happen on a couple of rifles. My old Model 70 for one. Like I said, I just took it apart and started over and everything finally lined up right.
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  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 384 Member
    The new screws came from Ruger and I have checked them with the old screws. They are the same length. I will try the way orchid an says. I have done like Ruger recommend with the front angled screw torqued down first then the rear and just barely snug on the middle. I have been doing 65 inch pounds on the front and playing around with between 20-50 on the rear and 5-25 on the middle. I k ow Ruger says 95 inch pounds on the front. All I have is a fat wrench and it only goes to 65. Which should be plenty with the aluminum pillars.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 13,915 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    The center screw needs to be just barely snug- - - -not torqued at all. I use purple Loctite on mine to make sure it doesn't fall out.
    Jerry
    Yep.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,031 Senior Member
    Just the opinion of an old fart- - - - -right, PC Patrol?
    :uhm::jester:
    Jerry
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 20,946 Senior Member
    My old 1966 Model 70, like most bolt guns, has three screws. I never took it out .of the stock for like 20 years until I had it blued. I took it out of the stock myself and gave the bluer only the metal. When he finished it I put the barreled action back in. I had no clue and no torque wrench so I just tightened er up about the same on each screw. The first thing, the bolt was hard to operate. Second, it wouldn't hit a bull in the ass from 10 yards. I ask around and they asked me how I tightened the action bolts and was told just lightly torque the center bolt. I did as was suggested to me and it came back like it was before. Never put much torque on that center bolt. Just tighten it enough where it won't fall out. Just paint the bolt with loctite and leave it loose even. The front and rear bolts are what really holds the action.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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