HR38.........

AxeAxe MemberPosts: 313 Member
Seems to have passed in the house. One step closer to national reciprocity. Now in the hands of senate.... God help us! Would love to know who the 9 republican congressman were who voted no.

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,925 Senior Member
    Feinstein and Company have supposedly sneaked in some amendments associated with their draconian list of changes to the NICS that will severely screw up the purchase of firearms. IF it passes with those amendments intact, then we give up WAY MORE than we're getting with National Reciprocity. I'm really leaning towards wanting ALL Democrats in Congress to die slowly, in a big hot fire.
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,535 Senior Member
    Axe wrote: »
    Seems to have passed in the house. One step closer to national reciprocity. Now in the hands of senate.... God help us! Would love to know who the 9 republican congressman were who voted no.
    This is not a good thing for gun owners. Read the bill. Those 9 did the right thing.

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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,040 Senior Member
    I found the following web page that contains the text of the bill.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr38/text/rh

    I must be missing something, because I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps someone can point out what I'm missing.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    I found the following web page that contains the text of the bill.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr38/text/rh

    I must be missing something, because I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps someone can point out what I'm missing.

    I see no issues either.
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    Axe wrote: »
    Seems to have passed in the house. One step closer to national reciprocity. Now in the hands of senate.... God help us! Would love to know who the 9 republican congressman were who voted no.
    Buford wrote: »
    This is not a good thing for gun owners. Read the bill. Those 9 did the right thing.

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    Only 2 Republicans voted no.

    Republican votes against:
    Water B. Jones RINO-NC 3rd, has a 39% record voting AGAINST Republican Majority He will be hearing from me in rather strong terms.
    Rod Blum, R-Iowa 1st District


    Did NOT vote:
    Tom Rice R-SC 7th
    Jim Bridestein R-Ok 1st
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,827 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Only 2 Republicans voted no.

    Republican votes against:
    Water B. Jones RINO-NC 3rd, has a 39% record voting AGAINST Republican Majority He will be hearing from me in rather strong terms.
    Rod Blum, R-Iowa 1st District


    Did NOT vote:
    Tom Rice R-SC 7th
    Jim Bridestein R-Ok 1st

    I don't know where you got your numbers. Looking at JerryB's link and following the voting link on it, 14Rs voted "no" and 4Ds vote "aye"

    All the R nos and D ayes are listed right on the top under "Statistically Notable Votes"
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663


    Edited to add: WB Jones is down for an "Aye" in the above link
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,040 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I don't know where you got your numbers. Looking at JerryB's link and following the voting link on it, 14Rs voted "no" and 4Ds vote "aye"

    All the R nos and D ayes are listed right on the top under "Statistically Notable Votes"
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663


    Edited to add: WB Jones is down for an "Aye" in the above link

    Louie Gomert of Texas voted no. That surprises me.

    I still don't see a problem with the bill, though.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,925 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    I found the following web page that contains the text of the bill.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr38/text/rh

    I must be missing something, because I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps someone can point out what I'm missing.

    That is the House of Representatives version of the Bill. The Senate will take it up next, and the usual suspects have already come out saying that it will have these bills attached to it to amend the bill as written.

    S2135 Mostly innocuous stuff that needed to be done.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2135/text

    HR4447 This bill has some stinkers in it. Feinstein has been working adding verbiage to it to add to the Senate S2135 bill. Her additions aren't on the Congressional Record yet as the Senate hasn't taken up the H.R 38 bill yet. Look for some really interesting amendments when HR 38 hits the Senate.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4477/text
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



  • SIGgalSIGgal Senior Member Posts: 1,660 Senior Member
    I am not crazy about the fix nics thingy being thrown in there, I think nics should be dealt with differently... and not in the liberal sense. I am pretty sure it will be dead in the water by the time it hits senate anyway.
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I don't know where you got your numbers. Looking at JerryB's link and following the voting link on it, 14Rs voted "no" and 4Ds vote "aye"

    All the R nos and D ayes are listed right on the top under "Statistically Notable Votes"
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663


    Edited to add: WB Jones is down for an "Aye" in the above link


    I went to to another site. Must have punched in the wrong bill. Sorry, won’t yell at my Rep...
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,231 Senior Member
    Those “little nuggets” that have been added could screw up NICS by adding more false no goes. Something like a forgotten out of state traffic ticket or such could flag a buyer. This could also translate to the NICS check run for CHPs or such. The anti-gunner’s poisoning of the House Bill hopefully will be cleaned up in then Senate but if not they win either way ... we don’t get national reciprocity or we get it at a fairly bad cost.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,827 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Sorry, won’t yell at my Rep...
    Didn't want you to fire off an angry email, and then get "Representative Jones didn't vote against it" as a reply :beer:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    Didn't want you to fire off an angry email, and then get "Representative Jones didn't vote against it" as a reply :beer:
    Thanks!
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,827 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Thanks!

    I've got your back mi hermano :beer:

    edited to add: It lists 4 Ds in the "significant votes" but says 6 actually voted for it
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 25,422 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I've got your back mi hermano :beer:

    edited to add: It lists 4 Ds in the "significant votes" but says 6 actually voted for it
    Those 6 Ds should just jump the fence and get it over with.
    "Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching." General George S. Patton
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,827 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Those 6 Ds should just jump the fence and get it over with.
    I agree, and think the 14 Rs should do the same
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


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