Submit your federal bill here, for...

bisleybisley Senior MemberPosts: 9,681 Senior Member
...school safety. Write a rudimentary synopsis of what you think any federal bill that addresses school safety against attack. I'll start, and hope this buggy form interface doesn't delete the whole thing.

First:
  Any federal bill should leave jurisdiction to the individual states, or better still, the local governments, providing only incentives and funding aid, if certain criteria is met.

Second:
  The federal government should define reasonable minimum requirements for armed security individuals that are expected to be competent in a school setting, and provide funding  to assist local governments in obtaining employees that will qualify. This could be 'security only' hires, or current employees who desire to train and qualify. Said funding would be a lump sum amount, so that the school boards would have discretion on how to spend it to achieve the most trained individuals. For example, a large school might be able to add several trained people per building, by finding existing employees who were willing and competent to be trained, whereas, for the money spent, they might only be able to add very few trained employees. The rich schools could add to the money from the federal government and hire as many of the best people as they could afford, whereas the poor, or average schools could spend the federal money wisely and come up with a good plan, also. (Fair? Maybe not, but that's capitalism, folks, and it works better than socialism).

Third:
  The federal government should require and provide incentives (positive and negative) for all violent crime arrests to be reported to the NICS system, with prompt appeals for any person rejected, based on false or mistaken arrest, or a not guilty trial resolution. Furthermore, it should provide incentives (positive and negative) to local law enforcement and school administrations to document all violent or otherwise aberrant behavior so that it is available to any law enforcement entity, so that arrests are made, when appropriate.


That's it. No new federal laws, per se, just a spending bill and bureaucracy reform.

Let's see yours.

Comments

  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 6,535 Senior Member
    You really need to run for office, 'cause you always make a lot of sense, and I'm not being sarcastic. Your posts are always well thought out and makes sense! Unfortunately, that quality probably will disqualify from public office!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,681 Senior Member
    Thanks, Al. You are very kind.

    I'm just a dumb country boy, but I can understand what I read and write what I think. I talk about like Festus, on Gunsmoke, and I dislike politics as much as the next guy - I'm just afraid to not keep my eye on the government, and this is where I come to get it all off my chest.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,607 Senior Member
    I'm not sure what I think will fix this mess can be legislated.

    Need to do more for mental health. I know Alabama, over the last few years in the name of "kindness" or something, cut the number of inpatient beds for institutionalized people by over 50% So more people are "out" in half-way houses, group homes etc. that, in all honesty, need to be locked away. But these days, that's considered too cruel.

    Some of these same kids that survived the shooting and are yelling for more gun control are probably the same kids that bullied the shooter. Hmmmm, can anything be done about that? I doubt it.

    Finally, I think parents need to quit making "Johnnie/Jane" believe he/she is the most important member of the family. THEY AIN'T.
    Worry more about being your kid's parent, and not their friend
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,681 Senior Member
    I agree with that, but the media uproar is so persistent, I fear that the establishment in Congress, supported by the President, are going to do something. So, why not make it something sensible. The Democrats likely will not let ten of their number vote for anything that doesn't give them a 'win,' so make them refuse a small, sensible bill that will allow Republicans to face their constituents, and then the Democrats can try to explain it away to the handful of moderates they still have have that don't buy into their talking points?
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,563 Senior Member
    edited March 8 #6
    My solution wouldn't work in all schools because of their physical setting. But where they are properly sited, it would work. Outer vehicle denial by placement of 16" heavy steel pipes 8 feet deep in soil, filled with concrete, and 4" stainless steel cable 2 feet off the ground surrounding inner fence. Inner fence 10 foot high with coiled razor wire both inside and outside on top. Entrance gate with pneumatic vehicle denial ramp to stop any vehicle from blowing through the gate. Entrance guarded with guardhouse of bulletproof design and protected by same 16" heavy pipe concrete filled and heavy I-beams welded across front to deny vehicle damage. Guard to be HEAVILY armed to repel any shooters. Entry into school would require all backpacks and packages x-rayed, and all students run through metal detectors. Number of x-ray machines and metal detector stations to be determined by number of students. Parking lot for students, teachers, and all others WILL be outside the fence; won't be smuggling in anything like a weapon. Sound like a prison? Yeah, it does. But that's my solution.
    Actually, if you make the chain link fence double fencing, inner and outer, with microwave entry detection between fences, then what I described is how most nuclear plants are protected.
    A double action revolver is a semiauto firearm. It fires once for every trigger pull.



  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,681 Senior Member
    Another thing that should be a part of any bill is an audit of Department of Education funding, and a discussion of what money is spent for. New York received 59.2 billion dollars in 2015, over $21,000 per student. Florida got 24 billion, about $8800 per student. California got $66.2 billion.

    It might very well be that a re-allocation of funds would provide more than enough assistance to local jurisdictions to do whatever is necessary.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,563 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    Another thing that should be a part of any bill is an audit of Department of Education funding, and a discussion of what money is spent for. New York received 59.2 billion dollars in 2015, over $21,000 per student. Florida got 24 billion, about $8800 per student. California got $66.2 billion.

    It might very well be that a re-allocation of funds would provide more than enough assistance to local jurisdictions to do whatever is necessary.
    Being how the 'other side' keeps saying 'our democracy', make it democratic for real and make money per student equal across the board. That's the democratic way!

    Auditing the U.S. Department of Education would be a REALLY worthwhile idea to just start digging through the corruption, fraud, and waste.
    A double action revolver is a semiauto firearm. It fires once for every trigger pull.



  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,681 Senior Member
    It's certainly no wonder that so many schools have liberal administrations. All they care about is how to qualify for their funding, and that has clearly been a major detriment to the education of our kids.

    The one room school house of our fathers and grandfathers sent people out into the world who could quickly find their niche in the great scheme of things and immediately become producers, rather than full-time consumers. $20,000 would have built the building, paid the teacher, and bought the books for the entire enrollment, for 20 years.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 16,607 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    I agree with that, but the media uproar is so persistent, I fear that the establishment in Congress, supported by the President, are going to do something. So, why not make it something sensible. The Democrats likely will not let ten of their number vote for anything that doesn't give them a 'win,' so make them refuse a small, sensible bill that will allow Republicans to face their constituents, and then the Democrats can try to explain it away to the handful of moderates they still have have that don't buy into their talking points?
    While I can't, with a clear conscious, disagree with you.
    I also can't see where doing something "wrong" in the name of "doing something" is going to get us anywhere either
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,681 Senior Member
    All I can say is that we have to deal with realities. This is politics, not ideology. We work for solutions to problems, rather than martyring ourselves for a lost cause. Our government has been allowed to grow into such a bloated bureaucracy that we have to either trim it back over a period of decades, or blow it up and start over. No one wants their children to grow up during a revolution, unless it is thrust upon them by situations beyond their control. So, we keep trying to find people who will keep trying to fix the problems, and hope that the ignorant masses don't blow it all up with their perpetual silliness.

    Anyway, my faux bill would never pass, anyway. But even if it's failure just kicked the can down the road, that is to our advantage, in this case, because the intact laws are far superior than anything they will enact now. The public not understanding politics is what got us here, and more of the public understanding politics can help us climb out in about 50 years worth of hard work.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,336 Senior Member
    School Principal had a meeting with students fathers yesterday. He stated that 99% of school problems either begin on or are multiplied on SOCIAL MEDIA.  that is 99 Percent or almost all problems.

    Seeing that Social Media like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and others, create or escalate school problems, I say that Social Media accounts for those under 21 years of age be banned.  Parents or those of legal age creating accounts and giving those underage unsupervised access be held accountable and prosecuted.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5

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