Kilauea volcano in Hawaii erupting again

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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,852 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    bisley said:
    As long as my tax dollars don't have to rebuild their homes every 20 years, I don't care if they have a houseboat in the crater. When they get blown out, they are entitled to bottled water and MREs for a month, if they survive it - just to honor their hard-headedness.
    This.
    Says the guy who lives in a state that's had something like $200 Billion in hurricane damage since the turn of the century. Just sayin...
    Do I own that? I was raised on the prairie, and have lived in the piney woods for 45 years. I've been to the Gulf twice in my whole life. The people who live and make their living there have been rebuilding themselves since before Buffalo Hump was burning them out in the Republic of Texas days. Anyway, what would happen to a Governor that refused federal funds, since Texans pay more taxes than they will ever recover from the feds. It is the system that is in place, and you cannot expect taxpayers to decline federal aid when they give it to 49 other states and half of the world?

    You might take notice that THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS absorbed half of the Katrina refugees, and had Houston rebuilding itself BEFORE any federal funds arrived. Neighbors helped each other to a greater extent than what our country has become accustomed to, for years. Sure, they accepted taxpayer money, because their taxes paid the tab for a thousand other disasters. The majority of folks who were wiped out knew what they were doing and accepted the risks, without regard for whether or not anyone else would cover their bet.

    My point is simply that people should weigh the risks and be sure that they can afford them, before inviting disaster. At least half of all Texans probably disagree with that point of view, to varying degrees, but it doesn't change my own personal opinion. A big part of being free is accepting the risks entailed, including having the self discipline to not become a beggar, when you lose. I'm all for subsistence level help and restoring order to local government, for people who meet with hard times, but it shouldn't be a replacement policy that politicians will use to buy votes.
    Yep, we all chose our risks. Something like 7 million homes are within the highest risk zones for hurricanes, 5 million homes are within zones with high risk from wildfires, 40 some million people live in flood plains, countless millions live along major fault lines. Tornadoes can strike pretty much anywhere. I agree that all these risks should be evaluated and priced in private insurance markets. Unfortunately as you suggest our government is adept at buying votes by subsidizing stupidity.
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,631 Senior Member


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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,925 Senior Member
    Tugar, that time lapse reminds me of the movie 'The Blob'.
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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 8,500 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    As long as my tax dollars don't have to rebuild their homes every 20 years, I don't care if they have a houseboat in the crater. When they get blown out, they are entitled to bottled water and MREs for a month, if they survive it - just to honor their hard-headedness.
    This.
    Says the guy who lives in a state that's had something like $200 Billion in hurricane damage since the turn of the century. Just sayin...
    You can easily build a house that will (mostly) survive a hurricane.

    Lava? Not so much.......
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 8,500 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    As long as my tax dollars don't have to rebuild their homes every 20 years, I don't care if they have a houseboat in the crater. When they get blown out, they are entitled to bottled water and MREs for a month, if they survive it - just to honor their hard-headedness.
    This.
    Says the guy who lives in a state that's had something like $200 Billion in hurricane damage since the turn of the century. Just sayin...
    You can easily build a house that will (mostly) survive a hurricane.

    Lava? Not so much.......
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 30,712 Senior Member
    Don't tell anyone, but the Hawaiian Islands were formed by volcanoes ..........................
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,617 Senior Member
    knitepoet said:
    There's a MAJOR difference between folks building on the coast and building on an active volcano.

    There's a CHANCE a hurricane may hit your your house.

    The volcano is NOT going anywhere.
    Yet a volcano or quake fault can do nothing for centuries, and living in Tornado Alley merely puts you somewhere near the path of relatively small, random and infrequent bullets.  The Gulf Coast gets hit by multiple hurricanes per year, each of which can have the potential to shotgun areas hundreds of miles wide.  Then on other coasts you have the tsunami thing, where one quake thousands of miles away can drown massively wide strips of land.  So as long as we're contemplating the nature of eternal optimists. . .

    The good news is that liberals seem to congregate on the coasts.
    WWJMBD?

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  • HappySquidHappySquid Member Posts: 208 Member
    Bigslug said:

     The Gulf Coast gets hit by multiple hurricanes per year, each of which can have the potential to shotgun areas hundreds of miles wide.  Then on other coasts you have the tsunami thing, where one quake thousands of miles away can drown massively wide strips of land.  So as long as we're contemplating the nature of eternal optimists. . .

    The good news is that liberals seem to congregate on the coasts.
    The bad news is : they are on the WRONG coasts :(
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 21,925 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:

     The Gulf Coast gets hit by multiple hurricanes per year, each of which can have the potential to shotgun areas hundreds of miles wide.  Then on other coasts you have the tsunami thing, where one quake thousands of miles away can drown massively wide strips of land.  So as long as we're contemplating the nature of eternal optimists. . .

    The good news is that liberals seem to congregate on the coasts.
    The bad news is : they are on the WRONG coasts :(
    Moving all the Liberals/Progressives/Socialists to the coast of Antarctica would be nice.
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



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