Damascus Steel?

zorbazorba Senior MemberPosts: 15,987 Senior Member
What's the consensus on this "Damascus Steel" knife from Stauer:


I get the feeling its so-so at best, and certainly not "real" Damascus steel, esp. as my limited knowledge of the subject indicates that's *still* a lost art. (???) But I'm not a knife guy, so I'm just curious...

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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 37,370 Senior Member
    Good damascus likely costs more than 59 dollars. 
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    Zee
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 15,987 Senior Member
    That's certainly the 1st clue, Sherlock...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it, you may shoot it. If you shoot it, you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody – and he finds out about it – he may be very angry with you. --Jeff Cooper
  • wddodgewddodge Senior Member Posts: 951 Senior Member
    I think the key phrase in the description is " blade of modern Damascus-style steel". It might look like damascus but I don't think it is.

    Denny
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,764 Senior Member
    It's pretty...can't say much more than that.....if you want to see some decent quality , affordable Damascus knives...checkout Atlanta Cutlery
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 950 Senior Member
    The blade handle and sheath look nice. No strength of steel is guaranteed to survive abuse. The longevity of the edge and how sharp it can be made make it good. I've never had a knife blade like that so I don't know how good it is.
  • philo426philo426 Member Posts: 321 Member
    Price is way too low,enough said!
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 17,084 Senior Member
    edited June 11 #8
    Just the damascus blade blanks I bought for about that price, while they LOOKED gorgeous, wouldn't hold an edge for spit
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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 37,370 Senior Member
    Eye of the beholder and all that rot, that particular blade is ugly as home made sin. 
    Im not a Damascus fan unless it’s a stellar example. Do something simple well, rather than something complicated poorly. 
    I also believe the notion that Damascus is superior to ______(choose your modern steel) to be bull **** and folklore. 


    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
    Zee
  • hawk18hawk18 Senior Member Posts: 676 Senior Member
    If they would just call it "pattern welded" steel, which it is, and then forget the Damascus label, it might be easier to understand. Pattern welded steel is made to look "pretty". It may, or may not, make a good knife. Indian or Pakistani steel, traded in Damascus, was far superior to bronze or wrought iron but I doubt it would compare to O1, 1095, or S30V or whatever designer steel they come up with tomorrow. Personally, I prefer simple high carbon steel, well forged and finished and kind of like the idea San Mai construction. 

    Hawk
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,194 Senior Member
    For that price, and with the description being "modern Damascus-style steel", I am betting it is 440C stainless that is etched with a damascus-like pattern.


    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 2,891 Senior Member

    Gotta agree with the others.  Price is too low to be quality Damascus.  It's probably etched or welded pattern.

    knitepoet said:
    Just the damascus blade blanks I bought for about that price, while they LOOKED gorgeous, wouldn't hold an edge for spit

    I had the same problem with two Damascus guthook knives I ordered as blanks.  The edges were not hard at all.  That's when I decided I use them as a learning experience and harden and temper them myself.  I posted a thread on it last year.  Used a MAPP gas torch and vegetable oil to heat and quench, then a cast iron pan in my toaster oven to temper them.  Up side, they both hardened and hold an edge much better.  I tested the first one by putting an edge on it and nearly chopped a 2x2 in half with it, with no visible mark at all on the edge.  Down side - the process destroyed the Damascus pattern.  The test subject was soaked in hot vinegar and salt a few times, which brought the pattern back some.  Overall, they came out to be pretty functional knives.
  • olesniperolesniper Senior Member Posts: 3,530 Senior Member
    Tail knob? That's a new one.

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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,764 Senior Member
    olesniper said:
    Tail knob? That's a new one.

    Yeah, invent terminology when you don't know what a pommel is...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • GilaGila Posts: 60 Member
    Damascus is a forging technique, not the quality of the steel.
    To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.  Sun Tzŭ

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