Warning Will Robinson! Danger! Danger! California splitting into three states

tennmiketennmike Senior MemberPosts: 22,292 Senior Member
IF California is allowed to split into three states, THEN THAT WOULD ADD 4 MORE SENATORS FROM THAT LIBERAL LA LA LAND! Therein lies the ugly side of their splitting into three states. As planned, there will be enough huge cities in each new state to keep the states extremely liberal/progressive. The balance in the Senate, already a freakin' mess, would get more imbalanced. And more reps in the House would make it even worse.
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  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 1,677 Senior Member
    When will people out there wise up ? There endless stupid ideas jut make me want to take a nap !
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,606 Senior Member
    Their ideas aren't all stupid.  This one would allow one state to triple its representation.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 968 Senior Member
    Extreme redistricting???
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 13,764 Senior Member
    As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot
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  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 1,677 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot
    We can only hope.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,292 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot
    And they are outnumbered by the granola munchin' progressolibs that ran the state into the ground. Instead of one huge socialist basket case there would be THREE GRADE A EXTRA LARGE socialist basket cases. If you look how they cut up the state, the humongous liberal enclaves way outnumber the conservatives. Only hope is that Congress tells them to go pound sand if California does somehow make the referendum pass.
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,292 Senior Member
    The Constitution doesn't allow for dividing up an existing state into new states, regardless of what happened viz West Virginia.
    Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1 is THE LAW for admitting new states. I put the juicy part in bold type.

    Section 3.

    New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

    Congress is the last resort to head this mess off, and I hope they have the sense to do so. Just think of FOUR MORE Feinsteins and/or Kamala Harris clones in the U.S. Senate!
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 17,106 Senior Member
    edited June 13 #9
    What TennMike said
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 968 Senior Member
    Could anyone even imagine the gridlock, the rhetorical urine flow, the infotainment tv excretions............

    😮




  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,000 Senior Member
    Most of the state is conservative. Anything north of San Francisco. Anything outside the greater LA/San Diego area. Anything outside of Sacramento.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,292 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Most of the state is conservative. Anything north of San Francisco. Anything outside the greater LA/San Diego area. Anything outside of Sacramento.
    Take a look at how the state has been divided in three parts. The Progressive/Liberal/Democrats outnumber the Conservatives by a large margin in each one. If you think that division was an accident, then I have some great info on Gulf Coast property in Montana you might find interesting. :)
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,000 Senior Member
    If that's the case...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it, you may shoot it. If you shoot it, you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody – and he finds out about it – he may be very angry with you. --Jeff Cooper
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,078 Senior Member
    I'd rather they became a new country, maybe North Mexico.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,544 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Jayhawker said:
    As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot
    And they are outnumbered by the granola munchin' progressolibs that ran the state into the ground. Instead of one huge socialist basket case there would be THREE GRADE A EXTRA LARGE socialist basket cases. If you look how they cut up the state, the humongous liberal enclaves way outnumber the conservatives. Only hope is that Congress tells them to go pound sand if California does somehow make the referendum pass.
    Exactly.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 1,998 Senior Member
    BAMAAK said:
    I'd rather they became a new country, maybe North Mexico.  They already are North Mexico.

  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,169 Senior Member

    One flew east.

    One flew west.

    One flew over the cuckoo's nest.


    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,323 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    zorba said:
    Most of the state is conservative. Anything north of San Francisco. Anything outside the greater LA/San Diego area. Anything outside of Sacramento.
    Take a look at how the state has been divided in three parts. The Progressive/Liberal/Democrats outnumber the Conservatives by a large margin in each one. If you think that division was an accident, then I have some great info on Gulf Coast property in Montana you might find interesting. :)

    You are 100% accurate. It worked in Oregon, Washington state(for those who may be thinking DC). Mostly in Colorado, and 100% in Hawaii which was probably hopeless anyway. Most of the states 90% of the geographical area being conservative with the liberal heavily populated cesspools overpowering the vote! It would of course work for dividing 'Commiefornia'! 
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,323 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:

    One flew east.

    One flew west.

    One flew over the cuckoo's nest.



    Since I now live about 12 miles away from the actual 'cuckoos nest' (Oregon State Hospital) and working there one night. With the addition of living in the Los Angeles Metro area for 3 years in the mid 1970s qualifies me to diagnose California's insane politics. "The lunatics are definitely running the asylum"!!!
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 652 Senior Member
    sgtrock21 said:

    Since I now live about 12 miles away from the actual 'cuckoos nest' (Oregon State Hospital) and working there one night. With the addition of living in the Los Angeles Metro area for 3 years in the mid 1970s qualifies me to diagnose California's insane politics. "The lunatics are definitely running the asylum"!!!
    Go East young man......and South, don't forget South.  Simply East won't help if you go too far.
    In other words, Get outta there!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,292 Senior Member
    sgtrock21 said:
    tennmike said:
    Take a look at how the state has been divided in three parts. The Progressive/Liberal/Democrats outnumber the Conservatives by a large margin in each one. If you think that division was an accident, then I have some great info on Gulf Coast property in Montana you might find interesting. :)

    You are 100% accurate. It worked in Oregon, Washington state(for those who may be thinking DC). Mostly in Colorado, and 100% in Hawaii which was probably hopeless anyway. Most of the states 90% of the geographical area being conservative with the liberal heavily populated cesspools overpowering the vote! It would of course work for dividing 'Commiefornia'! 
    It was divided by Gerrymandering on a statewide scale to ensure that outcome. No other reason is possible or plausible for the division as it was done.
    Non Sibi Sed Patriage (Not for self, but country)



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