Rem.700 4 screw buttplate.

[sarg1c]

I recently posted a question "when did Rem. stop putting 4 screw buttplates on the 700. called Rem. and the lady I spoke to didn't know. Well I called again about a recall on the 700 and asked again. This man told me that the 4 screw Buttplate was still installed on the wood BDL's only. Also inquired about the trigger /saftey problem and was told that all gun before '83 were not included. He said all guns they checked, all had someone try to adj the trigger, so mine is good to go. Any of you guys had problem s with your 700? I never did.

[Razorbacker]

Here's what I know. I have an ADL .30 06 I bought some time in the early to mid '80s. Once I took the safety off and it discharged. The safety button gouged a chunk out of my thumb. Not long after that I read an article in a gun mag about that happening to the writer and they couldn't duplicate or find the problem. Same with mine and it never happened again. On that one you can operate the bolt with the safety on. I recently purchased a used BDL. On that one you have to take the safety off to operate the bolt. If that's the same "safety/trigger" problem you're talking about anyway.
I would appreciate the phone number you have.
Thanks

Edit: I did have my trigger adjusted on the ADL, by a well respected gunsmith. Haven touched the BDL yet but I'm planning some trigger work. Again by a gunsmith.

[snake284-1]

I recently posted a question "when did Rem. stop putting 4 screw buttplates on the 700. called Rem. and the lady I spoke to didn't know. Well I called again about a recall on the 700 and asked again. This man told me that the 4 screw Buttplate was still installed on the wood BDL's only. Also inquired about the trigger /saftey problem and was told that all gun before '83 were not included. He said all guns they checked, all had someone try to adj the trigger, so mine is good to go. Any of you guys had problem s with your 700? I never did.

The only problem I had was the last two I bought, both pre-Expro Triggers, sucked so bad they couldn't be adjusted. I took them one at a time to my GS and he changed the spring and polished the surfaces and adjusted them to a sweet 1.5-2 pounds pull. He has built three guns for me and put Timney's in two of them, both Mausers, and the rest of my guns he has done the same as my 700s. The only trigger that needs help now is my 94 AE 30-30. Oh yeah, and my WBY Mk. V.

Both of my present 700s are synthetics and have two screws in the butt plate/recoil pad.

[sarg1c]

Here's what I know. I have an ADL .30 06 I bought some time in the early to mid '80s. Once I took the safety off and it discharged. The safety button gouged a chunk out of my thumb. Not long after that I read an article in a gun mag about that happening to the writer and they couldn't duplicate or find the problem. Same with mine and it never happened again. On that one you can operate the bolt with the safety on. I recently purchased a used BDL. On that one you have to take the safety off to operate the bolt. If that's the same "safety/trigger" problem you're talking about anyway.
I would appreciate the phone number you have.
Thanks



Edit: I did have my trigger adjusted on the ADL, by a well respected gunsmith. Haven touched the BDL yet but I'm planning some trigger work. Again by a gunsmith.

1-800-243-9700 www.remingtoncountry.com 08:00EDT

[Razorbacker]

Thanks sarg

[Razorbacker]

Okay, a follow up. I called Remington, the first lady I talked to was familiar with the issue but suggested I speak with their repair dept. The repair lady was equally familiar with the discharge upon taking the safety off issue, ( a brief digression, both these women were knowledgeable, pleasant and very customer service oriented. Kudos to Big Green in that regard),The repair lady said it was up to to me, if i was uncomfortable with my '06 ship it to them along with 37 bucks, which covers shipping it back to me, and they'd fix me up. I'm gonna talk to my 'smith but since i can operate the bolt with the safety on, which will change with the fix, I'm tempted to leave it as is. What do you guys think.
Also memory being a fickle thing, I lied when i said I bought it early to mid '80s It was manufactured in 1987. The one I bought used was made in '77. Which confirms my theory that Magnums can be a good buy off the used rack.

[sarg1c]

Well if i felt O.K. with it the way it is, I,d leave it as is. I don't trust a safety anyway on any gun, but that's me... I've called Rem. Service several times, they do good. Just didn't know when they quit the 4 screw buttplates on the ADL wood stocks,

[wildgene]

...for $37 return shipping yer almost 1/2 way to a new Timney or RifleBasics trigger. Timney used to have a couple M700 options, a 3-way safety or one that allowed you to cycle the action by depressing the safety. If you think a rifle is unsafe, fix it...

[Razorbacker]

...for $37 return shipping yer almost 1/2 way to a new Timney or RifleBasics trigger. Timney used to have a couple M700 options, a 3-way safety or one that allowed you to cycle the action by depressing the safety. If you think a rifle is unsafe, fix it...

And that is the crux of the biscuit. I don't feel it's unsafe. And apparently neither does Remington. But again, I will have my 'smith look it over.

[snake284-1]

OK I had my head where the sun don't shine. Don't ask where that is. But There is another problem with Remington triggers That nobody has brought up. That is the design incorporates a floating link between Sear and trigger. This I think was put in here mainly to make it different from other triggers or something to that effect. But if it gets dirty it can cause it to do what you mentioned, when you take it off safe it sometimes will fire. This has plagued Remington for almost 60 years until they came out with the X-Pro design which I believe did away with this floating piece and is two piece like most triggers.

Another thing, I don't believe the problem of the rifle going off when the safety is disengaged has anything to do with whether you can operate the bolt with the safety on or not. That propblem existed before they changed that feature and afterward as well. The problem with the accidental discharges is a trigger problem not a safety problem. The sear will disengage from the trigger because it's dirty and the middle piece will hang up and not engage the sear properly. I have had three Model 700s and my dad had another and neither of us ever experienced a problem. However, we were pretty abdoment about keeping the rifle clean. Also, let this be a lesson to us all, to always point a firearm in a safe direction and never point it at anything you do not intend to shoot. Because it may decide to go off when you don't intend it to. That's my 2 cents.

[Razorbacker]

Yeah, cleanliness is next to Godliness for sure. I had the trigger adjusted by my GS to about 3.5 lbs. But the more I think about this I may just go the Timney route. I've got a rifle that came with one and I really like it.
When that thing went off, it really scared me. We were out there to hunt. We started still hunting up the mountain and my thumb was still smarting and bleeding and the more I thought about what could have happened. I finally told my buddie I had to sit down a while. I almost became physically ill.