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    .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    Just when I was wanting a .17 Hornet, this here .17 Win. super Mag. pops up, NOW , What to do, What to do..., Rechamber, sell and buy, or just buy both? If we wait too long to buy, It won't get the reviews it need to be accepted and will be dropped. Always something, life is just too complicated...What you think guys,...
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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    Both of course!

    Do you reload? May have to wait and see what the cost of the SM will be. It certainly looks like a neat little cartridge though.

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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    What's your application? The .17 caliber ammo is pricy for what it is. I might consider a .17 HMR.

    .17 HMR = $12 to $14 a box of 50 2300 FPS in a 20 gr bullet good to 150 to 200 yards
    .17 Hornet = $20 to $25 a box for 25 rounds 3200 FPS 20 gr bullet - Centerfire and reloadable good to 200 to 250 yards
    .17 Winchester Super Mag = unknown price or availability 3000 FPS 20 gr bullet - rimfire not reloadable - not avail til april 2013 up to 250 yards
    .223 = $7.00 for 20 rounds, 3200 FPS 55 gr bullet to $20 for 20 rounds for a 77 grain bullet, highly accurate in a bolt gun to 500 yards

    I can understand the .17 HMR and the .22 WMR in the scheme of things, but if you need to reach out to 300 yards the .223 or even .22 - 250 seem to be better choices.

    The .17 Winchester Super Mag seems like a fun idea, a laser beam flat at between 25 yards to 150 yards, but expensive and possibly a fad cartridge only made by Winchester.

    I would pass.

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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    I think Michakev asked the most pertinent question, Do you reload?
    If it were me I'd stay away from the rimfire. My reasoning is, your accuracy will always be limited to ammo availability. I believe that if you're going to spend good money on a rifle you want to make sure you get the very best out of it. You would be limited with rimfire ammo and be captive to ammo prices if this new Winchester falls on it's face.
    With all of that said, I am a fan of handloading to get the most out of a rifle. I would be looking at a centerfire .17 if I were you. I wouldn't consider the 17 Hornet simply because of the rimmed case. For the most accuracy, I would choose a rimless case like a 17 Fireball or 17 Vartarg.
    If you don't handload, it's 6 of one half a dozen of the other, but if you do handload put yourself in a position to manufacture the most accurate ammunition for your rifle.
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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    Be alright if primers are available...

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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    This thread is a bit old, but just read a bit about the .17 WSM and I'm slightly intrigued. Looks like savage will have a few rifles out that should have street prices in the low $300's. If they turn out to be as accurate as the early range reports they could be a great cheap option. I do agree with Dan's assessment though if .223 ammo gets back to normal you will probably be able to buy reasonably decent .223 ammo for almost the same price as .17WSM with greater availability. That said it's still cool and is definitely going to go on my maybe list.
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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    If it can put down a coyote or bobcat it'd be perfect for FL's predator hunters during small game season when centerfire's arent allowed. Wish they would allow centerfires under .224 for those of us interested in yote hunting.

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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDanS View Post
    What's your application? The .17 caliber ammo is pricy for what it is. I might consider a .17 HMR.

    .17 HMR = $12 to $14 a box of 50 2300 FPS in a 20 gr bullet good to 150 to 200 yards
    .17 Hornet = $20 to $25 a box for 25 rounds 3200 FPS 20 gr bullet - Centerfire and reloadable good to 200 to 250 yards
    .17 Winchester Super Mag = unknown price or availability 3000 FPS 20 gr bullet - rimfire not reloadable - not avail til april 2013 up to 250 yards
    .223 = $7.00 for 20 rounds, 3200 FPS 55 gr bullet to $20 for 20 rounds for a 77 grain bullet, highly accurate in a bolt gun to 500 yards

    I can understand the .17 HMR and the .22 WMR in the scheme of things, but if you need to reach out to 300 yards the .223 or even .22 - 250 seem to be better choices.

    The .17 Winchester Super Mag seems like a fun idea, a laser beam flat at between 25 yards to 150 yards, but expensive and possibly a fad cartridge only made by Winchester.

    I would pass.

    IMHO

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    I got clarification on the pricing today in this month's Outdoor Life. According to Winchester, retail price will be $15 per 50 rounds. I don't think that's half bad when compared to a .17 HMR, especially if you're in an area where you can only use rimfire for game or varmints.
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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    15$ for 50? Sounds like a deal to me. Sure, you can say the 22LR will do the same thing a lot closer and cheaper....but for the time being, good luck finding and buying ammo. We are totally wiped out at work and it looks to stay that way for a while. P L E N T Y of 17hmr ammo, and I best 17wsm will be more available then 223 will for quite some time.
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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    Does anyone know when the .17WSM and ammo will be available? I havent seen anything yet from some of the big distributers.

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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    I little has shown up locally, but haven't seen a gun yet...
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    Re: .17 Hornet or .17Win.Super Mag...

    @ 30 cents a round, which I doubt will hold up, I don't think it's a bargain. I'm naturally wary of rimfire high performance ammo.
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