Andrew Napolitano: The right to shoot tyrants, not deer.

[Adrian]

The judge has a very good article in the Washington Times today. Here's the takeaway line for people not wanting to read the whole thing:

"The historical reality of the Second Amendment’s protection of the right to keep and bear arms is not that it protects the right to shoot deer. It protects the right to shoot tyrants, and it protects the right to shoot at them effectively, with the same instruments they would use upon us."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ants-not-deer/

[JLDickmon]

I got in an argument with an anti- this morning, and had them turned on every point except high-capacity magazines.
When I mentioned that NRA High-Power competition basically requires the use to two 20-rounders, she said, "Well, just change the rule then. We changed the rules of football to protect the kicker."
Best thing I could come up with was "football isn't in Constitution, nor is it Government administered."
Which was pretty weak.

[Jermanator]

Best thing I could come up with was "football isn't in Constitution, nor is it Government administered."
Which was pretty weak.

Many legitimate home defense and self defense firearms have magazine capacities over 10 rounds. HD and SD are legitimate reasons to own and have a firearm. Don't let them pin you in that sporting/hunting trap.

[CaliFFL]

I got in an argument with an anti- this morning, and had them turned on every point except high-capacity magazines.
When I mentioned that NRA High-Power competition basically requires the use to two 20-rounders, she said, "Well, just change the rule then. We changed the rules of football to protect the kicker."
Best thing I could come up with was "football isn't in Constitution, nor is it Government administered."
Which was pretty weak.

"Nobody that's ever been in a gunfight wished for less bullets."

If you do a google search of self defense shootings, you will see that most encounters are adrenaline fueled and accuracy is out the window. This is also true for cops. 5 cops have shot nearly 100 rounds at a perp and did not kill him.

Recently, Melinda Herman shot at her attacker 6 times, hitting him 5 times with a revovler and didn't kill him. She bluffed him and said she would shoot him again if he moved. If he decided to continue his pursuit she would've been in trouble.

If 10 round magazines are so great, why don't the cops carry them?

[Jermanator]

Right on Cali.

Very common points that people make against standard capacity magazines and semi-auto rifles is that:
A) There is no legitimate hunting or sporting purpose.
B) These weapons were designed to kill people.

Cali has a very good rebuttal. We often try to defend those positions and lose the argument because we let them dictate the terms and are left defending the hunting and sporting uses. While there are many hunting and sporting purposes, it is pointless to go there and instead shift to our own HD/SD argument. Remind them that the objective of HD and SD is not to kill people, but end the attack NOW. The unfortunate side effect of ending the attack NOW is that it is often lethal.

Ask them if it is morally acceptable for a police officer to protect your life, why is it morally unacceptable to protect your own life using the same tools that they use?

Change the subject away from sporting and hunting and turn it into self defense. This isn't about hunting and target practice.

[snake284-1]

I got in an argument with an anti- this morning, and had them turned on every point except high-capacity magazines.
When I mentioned that NRA High-Power competition basically requires the use to two 20-rounders, she said, "Well, just change the rule then. We changed the rules of football to protect the kicker."
Best thing I could come up with was "football isn't in Constitution, nor is it Government administered."
Which was pretty weak.

No JL, in my opinion your points were not weak. You nailed it. Football, or Cheerleading for that matter, or in other words, nothing these lame brains can come up with is a constitutional right. The RKBA is a right. That means don't mess with it. We all need to stand up for what we know is Constitutional. You did and you were right. Don't let them sell you short.

[Wambli Ska]

I got in an argument with an anti- this morning, and had them turned on every point except high-capacity magazines.
When I mentioned that NRA High-Power competition basically requires the use to two 20-rounders, she said, "Well, just change the rule then. We changed the rules of football to protect the kicker."
Best thing I could come up with was "football isn't in Constitution, nor is it Government administered."
Which was pretty weak.

The correct answer is: If you are faced with a horde of looters trying to break into your house or business and take everything that you treasure including your life, EXACTLY how many rounds would you like in your gun?

When in typical liberal fashion she says, what are the odds of that happening you can respond, "You should ask all the business owners in California who during the Rodney King riots held back the looters by arming themselves and keeping watch from the roofs of their businesses. You could also ask all the Katrina folks that got their guns confiscated by the local government and lost everything to bands of looter how much they would have liked to have an AR with plenty of 30 round magazines in their hands."

[snake284-1]

In my honest opinion, some of Americas richest conservatives, such as Trumph and a few others, need to stop listening to their Liberal Financial Advisors and get together and buy out a couple of the major networks, such as CBS or maybe ABC. Then fire all the libtards, make Rush Limbaugh CEO and hire George Will and John Stossel to direct their programming. We've got Fox, but Fox was not one of the originals and not enough of the Asleep at the Wheel Americans pay attention to Fox. They have been brain washed and think Fox is a radical right wing group. We need a larger share of the networks to educate the American people and cleans them of their brain washing of Liberal ideas they have gotten all their lives from the liberal media.

[Jermanator]

The 1967 Detroit riots are often referred to as the "Glorious Rebellion" by some people. I am not exaggerating or joking either. We are just one court decision, shooting, power outage, or whatever away from triggering another "rebellion". The police are going to have better things to do besides protecting my butt. People say it can't happen, but it did, does, and will.

[snake284-1]

The 1967 Detroit riots are often referred to as the "Glorious Rebellion" by some people. I am not exaggerating or joking either. We are just one court decision, shooting, power outage, or whatever away from triggering another "rebellion". The police are going to have better things to do besides protecting my butt. People say it can't happen, but it did, does, and will.

This is the falicy of liberalism. They always preach that "That is Never Going to Happen!"

What's amusing is I know some old line Dummycraps that loved Clinton. One or two have said, "Man, Ol' Bill Clinton and his Wife you could deal with. They gave lip service to Gun Control but avoided passing real laws." Yet these same numb nutt idiots will bad mouth Obama for the same things. I throw the BS flag on that when they say it. Bill Clinton was the first American President to entertain a UN gun ban and his wife has been pushing gun control behind the scenes in the Obama Cabinet. In fact she's been instrumental in trying to get the UN Gun Ban Treaty signed. People are truly asleep at the wheel. They don't pay attention. They live in a lala land and don't think anything will ever really change and we will always have gun rights. Oh the stupidity herein.

[Wambli Ska]

The 1967 Detroit riots are often referred to as the "Glorious Rebellion" by some people. I am not exaggerating or joking either. We are just one court decision, shooting, power outage, or whatever away from triggering another "rebellion". The police are going to have better things to do besides protecting my butt. People say it can't happen, but it did, does, and will.

If there is a "Not Guilty" verdict in the Florida case of George Zimmerman's shooting of Trayvon Martin the L.A. Rodney King riots and the Detroit riots will seem like toddler play dates by comparison.

[snake284-1]

If there is a "Not Guilty" verdict in the Florida case of George Zimmerman's shooting of Trayvon Martin the L.A. Rodney King riots and the Detroit riots will seem like toddler play dates by comparison.

And I say "Let it happen!!!" Maybe a few examples of how guns in the hands of the law abiding on such a scale will change minds. So far all we've had is examples of idiots shooting innocents. Maybe when a few people are saved by their gun totin neighbors, they'll see the farce that the liberals are spreading for what it is.

[JLDickmon]

"Nobody that's ever been in a gunfight wished for less bullets."

an ex-SFPD SWAT guy turned Federal Officer said basically the same thing on Mark Levin tonight..
"...you only know how much ammo you need after the gunfight is over..."

I think I'm stealing that..