Hopefully taking the BP out to work up a precise load of BH209

[Grizz1219]

I'll post pics if I am able to get out.. trying to work up the most accurate load out of my T/C prohunter 50 cal BP with BH209... gonig to weight the charges out to get a more consistent load... Trying to get out to 200 for my up and coming moose hunt to Newfie.. Anyone else got plans for the weekend???

[Ranch13]

Not sure how to do it in a muzzleloader, but in cartridges it's showing a preference for a bit of compression and magnum primers.

[snake284-1]

Not sure how to do it in a muzzleloader, but in cartridges it's showing a preference for a bit of compression and magnum primers.

This weekend? Hmmm, I don't have any black powder firearms yet, but thinking that over a bit. But this weekend, I think I see more hogs in the future.

I've got the corn fermenting and it smells good enough to drink, LOL!!! If only I wasn't an alcoholic I'd have me a glass of Corn Wine, LOL!!!

Also, I have the lights put together and will take my cordless drill and mount them on the two feeders. Then I'll refill both feeders with fresh corn and dump the fermented stuff in strategic areas. I have a meeting to attend tonight that is over at 9, so I'll head for the lease after the meeting and take up residence in my blind for a few hours. I need a new thermous to fill with some of my French Market coffee. That'll keep me awake. I have a Filipino friend we fish with who I'll take with me. Maybe he'll bring some of his wife's Casava cake, MMMMM good. And we will proceed to reduce the hog population. Now to figure out which gun. Arnold has a Win. 94 30-30 and I'm thinking about my 8x57 Mauser. I had thought about my Garand but I need to load me some shells for it and need to pick up some powder. For tonight, I'll feel good with the 8. I have an excellent load for it, a 150 grain Hornady Interlock over 54.7 grains of BLC-2 at right at 2950 FPS MV.

Anyway, sorry for getting off subject, but you did ask what we were doing this weekend. Also, one day I will kill hogs with black powder, and maybe a flintlock.

[Six-Gun]

Not sure how to do it in a muzzleloader, but in cartridges it's showing a preference for a bit of compression and magnum primers.

Ranch -

How is it doing out of cartidge BP guns for you? I remember Bill Bagwell was experimenting with the stuff when Western Powders first was introducing with the stuff. It's been amazing out of my T/C Omega inline, shrinking groups vs. a max load of Triple 7 from 6" @ 50 yards down to 1" at the same distance.

[Ranch13]

So far it's not impressed me much. It still requires you to clean the gun, It grew some white crap that plugged the flashholes and primer pockets on some fired cases. It costs as much as Swiss per round, and it's not giving anything spectacular for accuracy yet. Got another half can to get thru.
But at this point I've seen nothing to change my opinion of "subs" , if you're not going to shoot real blackpowder, then why not keep things simple and just shoot smokeless?
Bytheby, Bill had a quadrouple bypass last fall. He was just getting to where he could do some shooting again, and has got a case of pnuemonia this last week...

[Grizz1219]

I've been using it for whitetails for two years now.. I really like it... I run 1 dry patch down between rounds instead of wet patch, dry patch X 2 with 777 powder.... I like being able to weigh it to get more precise loading over volume measuring...

[Ranch13]

Unless I'm paper patching for creedmoor shooting, I don't wipe between shots with regular bp just a blow tube , or simply blow down the barrel. I always weigh blackpowder and smokeless loads.
You can weigh the other fake stuff out, you just need to know the convertion weights. Hogdons used to supply those with their data, but for some reason or other quit doing it.

[woodsrunner]

Grizz,

Don't know a thing about 777 powder. I've never used anything but GOEX and probably never will. But.....I know a little about black powder accuracy, and I'm going to give you the best advice that you'll ever have on the subject. Pull up www.blackpowderrifleaccuracy.com and spend the 18-20 bucks and get Dutch Schultz training program. I turned Teach on to this 10 years or so ago, and Teach also swears by what Dutch teaches. Many competitave shooters use Dutch's methods. The dry-lubed patch that you've heard Teach rave about.....that's Dutch's method of patching a round ball. Guess you're using a conical out of your TC since you're getting out to 200yds, but the points given by Dutch will apply to these also.

I weigh powder to the nearest 1/10th grain (437gr to the ounce) and round balls also. And the dry-lubed patches are mic'd to the nearest one thousandth. There's so much that goes into BP accuracy it isn't funny. I'm sure it's just as exacting as loading ammo for maximum accuracy.

[Six-Gun]

Not to hijack this thread, but as an FYI, I ordered that system you mentioned there woodsrunner. I was very surprised as to 1) how quickly Dutch got the thing in the mail (had an email confirming it would be mailed the following morning within an hour or so of ordering) and 2) how helpful he was to a specific question I had. He took the time type out what is at least a full double-spaced page response. That's service! I'm excited to get cracking on his system, but I gotta get off my duff and find a machine shop suply that sells the dry lube.

[Teach]

Try Victor Machinery Co. They have several types of water-soluble cutting oil available. I've been using the soluble oil stained glass hobbyists use, mixed about 2-3 ounces to a pint of water with a couple of drops of Dawn dishwashing liquid added to help the oil emulsify when it's shaken up in a Mason jar of warm water.

Victor's Astro-Cut A would work, but their minimum quantity is a 1-gallon jug. That would be a lifetime supply for several smokepole shooters!
http://www.victornet.com/subdepartme...uids/1070.html

Here's what I've been using- - - - -cheap and effective!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GAI-CUTTING-...item3366533625

Jerry

[Grizz1219]

I'll post pics tomorrow I'm hoping... gun shot well.... as usual... Shot 3 shot groups with 5 minutes between shots to keep it consistent.... laods were 75 grains, 79.5 grain and 84 grains.... Again.. pics later.... Thanks!!!