Sold my RRA upper on GunBroker today. More than enough to cover a new Rock River Varmint upper. Have a couple days before the money is transfered to my bank, so I'm trying to decide what I want exactly....... Here are the choices.
Thinking 18'' or 20''. Supposedly barrel length doesn't affect accuracy, but how much speed is lost at 16''. Already going to be heavy, but 24'' would really be a pig...
This is mostly going to be benched, but occasionally used for coyotes and whistle pigs...
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
I have a heavy 16" and a heavy 20". Enjoy both of them.
If you are shooting mostly from stationary platforms, I'd go 20". Not too heavy, but retains a tad more velocity for the yotes and whistle pigs. I think you would like that one.
Even killed a pig with my 20" heavy upper.
Lord, make me fast and accurate. Let my aim be true and my hands faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to do harm to me and mine. But Lord, if today be the day that you call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass.
The longer forend will be nicer from the bench as well. I just like rifle length forends. The feel better, balance better, and stabilize better when using a bipod. All my ARs have been switched to rifle length forends. Even my two 16" ones.
If you go 20", you won't have the added cost of an additional forend.
Lord, make me fast and accurate. Let my aim be true and my hands faster than those who would seek to destroy me. Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to do harm to me and mine. But Lord, if today be the day that you call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass.
You can get different length fore ends as an option. Even a 15" on the 16" barrel. That was tempting, but this setup doesn't need to be 'handy'
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
You did see that it states those are only compatible with RRA LEF-T lowers?
That said, I agree with Zed's advice.
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What kind of distances are you considering?
Ernie
"If you think you are perfect, just try walking on water."
Having owned a 20" RRA A4 EOP Varmint for a number of years, I'm a fan of the 20". That being said, I replaced the shot out 20" barrel with a ~24" (23.5" actually, according to Lilja)
You're correct that's it's a PIG to tote around, but it doesn't wiggle much, even without a brake, when fired.
Originally Posted by Nomadac
Mine carries a heavy 16in now, but hindsight being 20 20- I now am in the market for a 20 or 24 in barrel upper for my DPMS lower. What is the turn around on your upper that you are ordering? Did you order it before the meltdown on anything AR related became impossible to find?
The 24" is a pig but with lipstick
The bench the 24" would be great
Whistle pigs....how much ground do you actually cover if not much a 24 could still work ?
The yotes that could be the deal breaker but The solution is obvious
Another upper
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
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I know I will wait. Hopefully not to long since the LH ones probably aren't big sellers. May go with the 18'' barrel because I imagine the 20'' is the big seller and a 18'' may be more available....
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
18" is a decent length, but I'd probably go 20". Either one should work well for your intended purpose. I'm with Zee in liking the longer rifle length forends.
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A thought occurred to me at work, that I will be getting a brake for it even with the heavy barrel. So 18'' would be good as it will be about 20'' after.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
Spot on on that assessment.....24" heavy barrels are not only cumbersome but awkward to handle...barrel heavy in the extreme... losing 4" of barrel changes things markedly...I'd go with the 20" or the 18"
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What did they do different to make it ONLY fit their "Lef-T" lowers?
I think that's rather tacky on their part
I probably should have checked before I sold the old one to be sure. Only thing I can think of is the bolt stop would need catch on right side of bolt.What did they do different to make it ONLY fit their "Lef-T" lowers?
I think that's rather tacky on their part
Tomorrow I'll try stepsons upper from his Operator and see
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
The parts compatibility statement was NOT in RRA's site when I bought the Lef-T
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
Sorry Bernie, missed this. My club has a 600 range and I been wanting to learn/practice longer range shooting. 300 is about my max experience up till now
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
No problem.
600 is not going to be an issue with either the 18" or 20"
In fact, a 16" will do fine that far out too.
I use 69 grain SMK's and TAC powder for goofing and shooting steel.
Ernie
"If you think you are perfect, just try walking on water."
For what it's worth, I put a 1:8 DPMS 20" heavy barrel upper with the smooth free float hand guard on my RRA lower, and I cannot imagine that the RRA would have been better (although it is rated for 5.56). The DPMS was only a $100 less than the RRA at the time, but it shipped immediately from Midway. It shoots 0.4 with 68 gr. Hornady Match, and has the same POI with Barnes TSX 70 grain, with very slight differences in group size that may simply be shooter error. I haven't practiced a lot with it, yet, but I have fired a couple of sub-one inch groups at 200 yards with the Match bullets. I have high hopes for it being a 1"-2" shooter at 300 yards, when I get more practice time.
I can say that the 20" heavy would be a handful to tote, if stalk hunting, but I bought it for sitting in a box and using the bipod and a collapsible bipod for a rear rest, when possible. If I had known it was going to shoot so well, I might have gone with an 18" heavy barrel.
11.5 inches with a can.... that's not on your list!
D
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Not 24. They are just too long to be handy IMHO
You think the wait for an upper is long. I can imagine the wait for a tax stamp11.5 inches with a can.... that's not on your list!
D
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
I would go with the 18" myself. Fraction more velocity than the 16" with less muzzle weight than 20".
I would get it with rifle length tube though.
Money in the bank from selling upper, ready to put in order and......................... got a cord sticking out of a tire on the Camaro (@38,000)! Rest aren't in good enough shape to just replace one, so all four it is. 19'' rims= $$$..... Le sigh...
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
Well THAT just sucks...
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Still some hope. I have yet to list my 1965 Bear Kodiak recurve on ebay. Waitin another week to let more people get their tax refunds.Well THAT just sucks...
Hope to get $400-$500.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
FWIW the extra 2 inches gets you maybe 5% more velocity than the 16 inch. If you were shooting 77 gr bullets with a 1 in 7 twist regularly I can see it, but if you are shooting just 55 gr FMJ's regularly, meh...
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