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    Quote Originally Posted by jbp-ohio View Post
    Can't find it........... I don't like tea, but it should be good for lemonade. No after taste? I've heard so many people claim 'X' sweetener has no after taste. They lie!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jermanator View Post
    I have had some of that "light" lemonade before and that tastes (to me) pretty close to the real thing-- or real commercial thing. There is no substitute for squeezing fresh lemons and adding real sugar and water. That said, it is only supposed to have 5 calories or so a serving.
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    I dont know how you guys can do the artificial sweeteners. Bleh.
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    The thing is, Stevia is a natural sweetener. Some forms of it have a little bit of a funky taste, but I don't find it offensive.
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    Because sugar is too dangerous. Like sixgun said. The taste is mild and you get used to it. I cannot do black coffee or unsweetened tea
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    For the most part I can't do fake, low fat, etc etc _________( FITB with any substitute product)
    If I can't have real butter, I won't eat the fake crap. Same with sugar. It's either real, or nothing. But then I'm not a huge sweets person. I'll binge on sweets now and again, but I'll go LONG periods of time without sweets. Thankfully sweets aren't a weakness for me.
    Diet soda is about the only fake sweetener I'll ingest, but it's already in there. Adding a fake (something other than sugar) sweetener to something? Nope. I'll just eat it without, or do without.
    Stevia is a 100% natural sweetener that, exactly like sugar, is just a plant extract. Like Tugar said you can buy stevia plants at Lowes or Hone Depot. Look for a plant and just take some leaves and pop them in your mouth next time you are in one of those stores.

    It does not taste 100% like sugar but most of the "aftertaste" some folks complain about come from the cheaper brands use of additives to "stretch" the powder or preservatives like alcohol that some add so you don't have to refrigerate it. Sweet Drops is the only brand I've found that is just stevia and water and it has to be refrigerated after you open it. Stevia is a powerful sweetener so you have to be judicious using it.

    Also I've found tha the taste difference is more pronounced in hot coffee. In iced coffee, tea, or anything citrus like lemonade it is a PERFECT sweetener with no aftertaste.

    One last one. I don't like plain water but I LOVE juices. Unfortunately as a diabetic they are tough on my sugar levels so now I take my big Yeti tumbler and make a mix of 1/5 juice and water and sweeten with stevia and it is delicious and low in calories. I drink a couple of those every day. Orange juice works great! So does Welch's 100% real grape juice and tart cherry juice is another big favorite! But I've tried it with mango, pineapple, guava and others and it works with all of the.

    I also carry that Yeti around the house with me and sip on it all day. I also now put it in my Takeya (Google them) big insulated steel water bottles when I leave the house and have it with me wherever I go. Much better that carrying around plastic water bottles (and cheaper than buying those when I'm out and about) and my drinks stay cold even inside a hot car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbp-ohio View Post
    I have thought about doing the LCHF diet, but there are problems I need to figure out. First is $$$. Bread and pasta are cheap. Meat , nuts, fish, and vegetables are expensive. Plus buying and cooking for meals for one is a lot more than for four................

    Another is gout. Meat, fish, and high fat foods are bad for gout. I take allopurinol for gout, but that causes kidney stones. If I eat more fats, will the stones form quicker, be bigger??
    Water consumption is key. High protein diets are good for you but tough on the kidneys so you HAVE TO stay hydrated which is a good habit to get into and also aides in weight loss!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    For the most part I can't do fake, low fat, etc etc _________( FITB with any substitute product)
    If I can't have real butter, I won't eat the fake crap. Same with sugar. It's either real, or nothing. But then I'm not a huge sweets person. I'll binge on sweets now and again, but I'll go LONG periods of time without sweets. Thankfully sweets aren't a weakness for me.
    Diet soda is about the only fake sweetener I'll ingest, but it's already in there. Adding a fake (something other than sugar) sweetener to something? Nope. I'll just eat it without, or do without.
    Yeah, I was one of those sweets people. Super addicted. I realized that I couldn't go a day without some kind of sugary treat. Hell, I almost couldn't go a single meal without one. It's definitely genetic as my dad is even worse about it. I used to razz him with the title, "Deputy Danish." I had to buckle down and explain to my wife that she needed to be on the same page and stop buying that stuff if we were going to kick it. After months of continuing to buy a gallon of ice cream here or cookies there, she finally set a firm date and we gutted the house of all of that stuff. She hasn't bought it. Now that I'm finally sugar detoxed and I can walk by the a Cinnabon wafting in a mall and just walk right by. As soon as you see the results on the scale and your waistline, it becomes easy.
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    Re: Aint lost a pound

    Quote Originally Posted by Six-Gun View Post
    The thing is, Stevia is a natural sweetener. Some forms of it have a little bit of a funky taste, but I don't find it offensive.
    Death cap mushrooms are also natural. All mushrooms are edible, some of them only one time.



    Just because it is natural does not mean it is good for you. Just eliminate refined sugar and limit refined carbs to 300 calories a day.

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    Stevia has been consumed by South American Indians for well over 1,000 years. The only negative on stevia history was an "anonymous complaint" decades ago without any scientific basis. IIRC it was later discovered to have been done by the artificial sweetener lobbyist. There has been not ONE scientific study that shows any concern on stevia and the FDA approved it as a food additive with absolutely no objections or advisory on usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Stevia has been consumed by South American Indians for well over 1,000 years. The only negative on stevia history was an "anonymous complaint" decades ago without any scientific basis. IIRC it was later discovered to have been done by the artificial sweetener lobbyist. There has been not ONE scientific study that shows any concern on stevia and the FDA approved it as a food additive with absolutely no objections or advisory on usage.
    Beat me to it. Stevia is not only natural, it has an enormous test sample period in the South American tribes that were using it for millennia. It's safe.
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    Good example of what bad eating does...
    I put on 3 pounds week over week. And at least two days last week I was busting my ass at work, and walked about 5.5 miles each day while working. In other words, a lot more activity than typical. But....had some regular sodas, and ate like a pig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Stevia is a 100% natural sweetener that, exactly like sugar, is just a plant extract. Like Tugar said you can buy stevia plants at Lowes or Hone Depot. Look for a plant and just take some leaves and pop them in your mouth next time you are in one of those stores.

    It does not taste 100% like sugar but most of the "aftertaste" some folks complain about come from the cheaper brands use of additives to "stretch" the powder or preservatives like alcohol that some add so you don't have to refrigerate it. Sweet Drops is the only brand I've found that is just stevia and water and it has to be refrigerated after you open it. Stevia is a powerful sweetener so you have to be judicious using it.

    Also I've found tha the taste difference is more pronounced in hot coffee. In iced coffee, tea, or anything citrus like lemonade it is a PERFECT sweetener with no aftertaste.

    One last one. I don't like plain water but I LOVE juices. Unfortunately as a diabetic they are tough on my sugar levels so now I take my big Yeti tumbler and make a mix of 1/5 juice and water and sweeten with stevia and it is delicious and low in calories. I drink a couple of those every day. Orange juice works great! So does Welch's 100% real grape juice and tart cherry juice is another big favorite! But I've tried it with mango, pineapple, guava and others and it works with all of the.

    I also carry that Yeti around the house with me and sip on it all day. I also now put it in my Takeya (Google them) big insulated steel water bottles when I leave the house and have it with me wherever I go. Much better that carrying around plastic water bottles (and cheaper than buying those when I'm out and about) and my drinks stay cold even inside a hot car.
    I'd try it, just to say I tried it. (Like the time at band camp)
    But I couldn't see me using it. Unsweet tea and coffee for me! Thankfully I like those drinks sugar free. One less bad habit to kick!
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    Diet is everything. I exercise like a fiend a minimum of 5 days a week but I have gained 20 pounds in the last year. My fondness for beer definitely plays a part in it.


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    Re: Aint lost a pound

    I've done the low carbs thing...

    Breakfast is bacon and eggs.
    Lunch is a salad made with Romaine, chick peas, black beans, half a hard-boiled egg, cheese, maybe three baby carrots sliced up, some kinda protein, Italian salad dressing plus olive oil, and red pepper flakes for spice.
    Mid-afternoon snack is an apple. This and any beans I eat are about the only carbs. I've found that an apple helps me get through the day, and I actually lose weight better with it mixed in.
    Dinner is a protein with a vegetable: not corn or potato if I can avoid it. Maybe beans. Or even another salad.

    I use 5 or so packets of sucralose/Splenda for my sweetener plus cream/creamer. For a drink it's water with a flavor pack. Flavor pack contains aspartame.

    So far I've lost 25 lbs. If I maintain, I'm happy. If I lose another ten... just as good. I've dropped a few inches on the waist, and a size or two on shirts.

    I agree with others: diet's the main thing, and cutting carbs is the way to do it. We ain't twenty-somethings anymore, and our bodies can't seemj to cope with that stuff like they used to. Edited to add: also, don't be afraid of fat. Fat satiates, and will help you feel full longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Stevia has been consumed by South American Indians for well over 1,000 years. The only negative on stevia history was an "anonymous complaint" decades ago without any scientific basis. IIRC it was later discovered to have been done by the artificial sweetener lobbyist. There has been not ONE scientific study that shows any concern on stevia and the FDA approved it as a food additive with absolutely no objections or advisory on usage.
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    This will be my defense for chewing Coca leaves...
    I'm good with that
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    OP, I can't tell you this will work for you, I know it works for me.

    AVOID eating cholesterol. No more cheese, pork, or milk. WATCH your food labels, no more SATURATED FAT,

    either. Use PAM cooking spray. NO MORE hi-fructose corn syrup. Means most non-diet sodas, and normal

    ketchup. You can get "organic ketchup", with NO hi-fructose corn syrup. NO MORE deep fried foods.

    Get a George Foreman grill. Grill all your meat. Best of luck, amigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breamfisher View Post
    I agree with others: diet's the main thing, and cutting carbs is the way to do it. We ain't twenty-somethings anymore, and our bodies can't seemj to cope with that stuff like they used to. Edited to add: also, don't be afraid of fat. Fat satiates, and will help you feel full longer.
    One of the other things I have learned is to mix carbs and protein. Cheese and apples. Fruit and nuts. The carbs go through quick compared to the protein and fat which keeps you less hungry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugar View Post
    One of the other things I have learned is to mix carbs and protein. Cheese and apples. Fruit and nuts. The carbs go through quick compared to the protein and fat which keeps you less hungry.
    If you are watching/avoiding diabetes, that is a big help to keep your sugar from spiking.
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    Well this was a bad week. Apparently when the daughter has a birthday the wife is now turning it into a hatching remembrance week. There has been a junk food fest at my house, and max carbs for dinner. When I get home tonight the stuff is going to hit the fan because I am s canning all of the leftover cake. Might as well start the argument on a high spot.

    I had sausage (wild pig, still) in a wheat tortilla for breakfast this morning. We will try dropping the oatmeal even though there is a LOT of good in it for cholesterol, and fiber which is needed once you are not a kid anymore.

    On a good note. I put on regular clothes Sat morn and I have just about gained notch in the belt. Probably destroyed the gains on Sat, but there has been movement even with no poundage loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmintmist View Post
    I had sausage (wild pig, still) in a wheat tortilla for breakfast this morning. We will try dropping the oatmeal even though there is a LOT of good in it for cholesterol, and fiber which is needed once you are not a kid anymore.
    Switch to the low carb tortillas. Wheat is better but still have quite a bit more net carbs (net carbs= total carbs minus the fiber that is not digestible) than the low carb ones. They taste the same and as a bonus, they are loaded with fiber. A cup of cooked oatmeal has 4 grams of fiber. A low carb tortilla has 10+.
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    Up 3 pounds from last week, I felt it when I buttoned my already snug work britches. Back to fat camp for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jermanator View Post
    Switch to the low carb tortillas. Wheat is better but still have quite a bit more net carbs (net carbs= total carbs minus the fiber that is not digestible) than the low carb ones. They taste the same and as a bonus, they are loaded with fiber. A cup of cooked oatmeal has 4 grams of fiber. A low carb tortilla has 10+.
    It was available. It may have said low carb on the package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmintmist View Post
    Well this was a bad week. Apparently when the daughter has a birthday the wife is now turning it into a hatching remembrance week. There has been a junk food fest at my house, and max carbs for dinner. When I get home tonight the stuff is going to hit the fan because I am s canning all of the leftover cake. Might as well start the argument on a high spot.

    I had sausage (wild pig, still) in a wheat tortilla for breakfast this morning. We will try dropping the oatmeal even though there is a LOT of good in it for cholesterol, and fiber which is needed once you are not a kid anymore.

    On a good note. I put on regular clothes Sat morn and I have just about gained notch in the belt. Probably destroyed the gains on Sat, but there has been movement even with no poundage loss.
    You just pointed out another challenge that Is should've cautioned you about earlier: having to tell people, "thanks, but no thanks." We've had people bring us cakes, treat, snacks of all sorts that we had to politely decline. A family friend bakes and ships winter cookies and brownies every year. This year, they showed up, and as guilty as we felt about it, we quietly put them right in the trash because we knew it would be too tough to turn them down in the beginning. Next year, we'll keep them and share them with guests who aren't in the same boat.

    My parents are trying to go the low carb route, but they're too concerned with not offending people and give in when someone shows up with their favorite tomato pie that not only has a boatload of carbs in the crust, but *clearly* has an insane amount of sugar added to the sauce (I've joked that it takes like a tomato cupcake). Until they get the guts to tell people, "I really appreciate you brining that by, but we can't eat that anymore," they're going to be stuck in a people-pleasing rut of futility.
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    Up 3 pounds from last week, I felt it when I buttoned my already snug work britches. Back to fat camp for me.
    I'm gonna start making you wear a live feed body cam and harass you over an ear piece when I see you get anywhere near a vending machine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    Up 3 pounds from last week, I felt it when I buttoned my already snug work britches. Back to fat camp for me.
    Down 2 from Saturday morning. It isn't saying much because that is what a quart jar of pee weighs, but I will take it. Now if I can stick with the program long enough to start taking some real weight off again....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmintmist View Post
    Well this was a bad week. Apparently when the daughter has a birthday the wife is now turning it into a hatching remembrance week. There has been a junk food fest at my house, and max carbs for dinner. When I get home tonight the stuff is going to hit the fan because I am s canning all of the leftover cake. Might as well start the argument on a high spot.

    I had sausage (wild pig, still) in a wheat tortilla for breakfast this morning. We will try dropping the oatmeal even though there is a LOT of good in it for cholesterol, and fiber which is needed once you are not a kid anymore.

    On a good note. I put on regular clothes Sat morn and I have just about gained notch in the belt. Probably destroyed the gains on Sat, but there has been movement even with no poundage loss.
    Dont drop the oatmeal, it's really good for you, it's very filling and relatively low calorie! Just make sure you have your carbs in the morning when you'll burn them more readily and not late at night when they are going right to your fat reserves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Six-Gun View Post
    I'm gonna start making you wear a live feed body cam and harass you over an ear piece when I see you get anywhere near a vending machine...
    Yeah. Go ahead.
    But, as a better (for you) solution, track me via gps. Set a perimeter around fast food places that alerts you. You don't want to have a camera on me. Just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    Up 3 pounds from last week, I felt it when I buttoned my already snug work britches. Back to fat camp for me.
    Same here. Rededicating to the plan. Already 60 oz of water in for the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Dont drop the oatmeal, it's really good for you, it's very filling and relatively low calorie! Just make sure you have your carbs in the morning when you'll burn them more readily and not late at night when they are going right to your fat reserves.
    I probably eat oatmeal five days a week for breakfast. It is a complex/good carb, so it digests slowly, keeps you full longer. I like it with dried apples, cinnamon, and a large spoonful of Truvia brown sugar blend. The apples rehydrate when the oatmeal cooks. YUM!

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    I am down another pound since Saturday so it is actually a trend and not a fluke. Tuna salad and cheese lettuce wraps for lunch today. Now I gotta figure out dinner and stay on course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Al1 View Post
    I probably eat oatmeal five days a week for breakfast. It is a complex/good carb, so it digests slowly, keeps you full longer. I like it with dried apples, cinnamon, and a large spoonful of Truvia brown sugar blend. The apples rehydrate when the oatmeal cooks. YUM!
    I am a fan also. I cook it with a few raisins, vanilla, and cinnamon. When its done I toss in frozen fruit like strawberries or black raspberries or whatever berry is available, then just a little honey.
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    I like oatmeal too but rarely eat it. A pat of butter, a shot of cream, some brown sugar/maple syrup/honey and whatever dried fruits (raisins, cranberries, apples, apricots, pears, prunes, etc...)

    For a guy that likes breakfast food as much as I do, you'd think I would eat breakfast more often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmintmist View Post
    I am a fan also. I cook it with a few raisins, vanilla, and cinnamon. When its done I toss in frozen fruit like strawberries or black raspberries or whatever berry is available, then just a little honey.
    Ok, here is part of your problem, that's not oatmeal buddy, that a candy bar in mush form. Raisins are little sugar bombs and you are adding fruit AND honey to the mix?!?!?!?!

    Try this. Cook your oatmeal in whole milk which is actually good for you since it has a bunch of good amino acids that promote weight loss (South Beach diet has two full glasses a day every day as a requirement) and the Calcium helps maintain good bone health and keeps muscle cramps away. This will make it nice and creamy. Add a little salt to it while cooking and then sweeten with just a LITTLE organic raw sugar, maple syrup or agave syrup. Even better, skip the sweeteners and slice a whole banana into the bowl for sweetness and mix it in and the potassium in the banana is great for you and also helps avoid muscle cramps. Now you have a much healthier and lower calorie bowl of oatmeal with a whole lot less simple sugars in it.
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