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    22lr Rifle Question

    I bought a new 22lr rifle this past summer. I'm having a problem with the empty cases not ejecting after about 25-50 rounds. The ejector on the bolt does not grab the case. After a very thorough cleaning the rifle will shoot fine for another 25-50 rounds. It's the only 22lr rifle I have that does this. What can I do???????
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    Clean it well. The chamber may have a rough spot in it. What kind of .22 is it? Is it possible to clean from the chamber end? Could be the extractor is faulty.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene L View Post
    Clean it well. The chamber may have a rough spot in it. What kind of .22 is it? Is it possible to clean from the chamber end? Could be the extractor is faulty.
    Or the extractor has crud built up under it.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    When it stops extracting fired cases, will it extract unfired rounds? My 10/22 wouldn't extract unfired rounds until I replaced the extractor with a Volquartsen.............

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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    Sometimes its the ammo, although modern rimfire is very good.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    I've had trouble with Federal Auto Match ammo in my Buckmark. Not in a bolt gun, though.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    I just replaced an extractor as well but it was after 20,000 + rounds. Ruger extractors are crap if that's what it is. The VQ one is much sharper and harder. Also make sure the ejector is not bent or getting hung up on the bolt.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    The internet is a wonderful thing. It might help to know what type of rifle you're talking about. Many times, you can google, "Extraction Problems, Ruger 10-22" for instance and get a whole page of links to discussions about it.

    What kind of rifle?
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    You said you bought a new .22... is that new to you, or brand new out of the box?

    The brass case is supposed to expand a bit and seal the chamber from gas and crude backfilling it. Are the cases really dirty? If so you might have an oversized chamber or need to change ammo to a brand that seals better.

    Case extraction is a couple of things. The .22 LR is a straight walled case, so during the extraction process chamber is in contact at all times with the case as it is being slid out ( unlike a tapered case like a 9mm.) Clean and smooth chamber walls and ammunition cases make for the least friction. If extraction becomes more difficult after 25 rounds, the chamber walls might be getting crudy. This increases the pressure the extractor needs to stay on the rim during the extraction process. The extractor needs to be sharp / square to connect well with the brass. if it is worn or rounded it may slip when it has more resistance when trying to pull out the spent case. Make sure the extractor is sharp / square and clean.

    The extractor is given pressure to contact the rim by a spring. If the extractor spring is weak it will not provide enough pressure to hold the extractor in place when it encounters more resistance.

    The extractor might be slightly warped or too thick or there might be crud in the bolt groove that the extractor rides in, making the springs pressure less effective. The extractor needs to be perfectly flat and the groove clean of debris. Oil in the track can attract dirt that will imped the extractor pressure on the the rim.

    SO.......

    Clean the chamber.

    Look at your ammo cases

    Consider changing ammo

    Take the bolt apart and clean it

    Make sure the bolt groove is clean AND dry, or with just a little oil

    Make sure the extractor is flat

    Make sure the extractor is not too thick or warped and rides in the groove free of being bound up.

    Make sure the spring is installed correctly and places the pressure on the extractor to hold the rim

    Make sure the extractor's catching edge is sharp and square to the ammunition rim.

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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    I'd suspect both crud buildup and a dull extractor is causing your problem with extraction. If the rifle is semi auto and there is an extractor cut in the barrel breech, that is an area that collects crud like crazy and anything but aggressive cleaning of that extractor cut will recur regularly. Two words for cleaning this area; dental picks. Cheap stainless steel ones are sold at flea markets and online, and can be bent and sharpened to get in there and scrape out the crud.

    Check the extractor slot in the bolt, too and clean it and its slot squeaky clean. They both collect crud and crud can cam the extractor away from the case head.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    The problem, generally, is rimfire 22s "powder up" more than most centerfire

    calibers. Blame the powder, it's "lighter", apparently. Anyway, internals need a

    good cleaning. Be especially sure to clear the chamber of any unwanted debris,

    varnish, or powder residue. You may be getting a momentary pressure seal in the

    chamber, which is just enough to cause the extractor to jump the cartridge rim.

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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by therewolf View Post
    You may be getting a momentary pressure seal in the

    chamber, which is just enough to cause the extractor to jump the cartridge rim.
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    Re: 22lr Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    Or the extractor has crud built up under it.
    This here has happened to me. Hardened carbon under the lip will cause this.
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