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    Being told to leave the DMV.

    So...

    I'm eligible to have my DL address changed without document re-compliance due to the level of compliance I met with identity verification the last time I renewed the DL. I go in to change it because I need it changed today. I can accomplish this online, but it's a 7-10 day wait for it in the mail, and something came up that I need it changed today.

    I wait in line for 20 minutes, blah blah, and I'm met with a lady who says I need a document to show residency. I inform her my level of previous compliance means I don't. I live 25 miles from the DMV, and I'm not driving the round trip to placate them. She said do it online and I don't need to submit a document.

    "So, you're telling me if I do this online in complete anonymity I can have a new license mailed wherever I want. BUT, in person I need to verify where I live?"

    She says yes. I tell her I need my address changed now. I wasn't coarse I was direct.

    "Sir you'll need to leave."

    I told her no, politely. I was not leaving a tax funded place of customer service without services rendered at my demand.

    The supervisor and I had a brief conversation and the address was changed with little fuss.

    I HATE people who work at government buildings. Interacting with them makes it painfully obvious how the Hitlers and Stalins of the world rise to power.


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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Yes little people on a power trip is a large bummer.

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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Was this the one in Merritt Island?

    I've had great interactions there, nary a problem.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    You got more guts than me.
    I don't mess with people that handle my food, operate on my inards, or the DMV.
    I'm very glad miss high horse got a few apples though.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    The ONLY happy DL pic I ever had was when I got my first. Every DL pic after that shows my dislike for the whole process. One was slightly ok. After it was done printing, the lady called out "John smith" . (Or whatever) She looked around. Looked at me. "John Smith". This went on a few more times. She glared at me. "JOHN SMITH!"
    "You talking to me?"
    "Yes! You're John Smith!"
    "Ummm, no I'm not. "
    "Well, this is YOUR picture!"
    "Well, that AINT my name."

    It caused a bit of confusion as to what they were going to do. My suggestion of simply making a new license was met with a look like I told them to sacrifice a kitten. They finally decided that they would make a new license. But, had to retake the picture. By this time 30 minutes had passed. Some other lady went to take the pic. Obviously I wasn't feeling photogenic at that point. She said "Smile!" , like that was going to encourage me to smile. She paused, waiting for me to smile. I took a deep breath and said "please take the picture. "
    What I wanted to say would have had me being escorted out in handcuffs, likely.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    I have a low opinion of most government prefects due to their high opinion of their importance and wrongly assumed power. A few years back I went in to renew my CCW, and the new procedure required I supply them with Birth Certificate, copy of DD-214, and a couple of other records. My birth certificate is nothing like what the new ones issued now because I was born in 1953. The doofus clerk(young 20 something gal) said, "That is not a valid birth certificate! Where did you get this?" I told her I assumed the hospital I was born in did the photostatic copy as I was not even a day old at the time and didn't see it done.

    She didn't think that was funny and called over a couple of supervisors and showed it to them. The younger supervisor agreed with the young clerk, but the older clerk (close to my age) told both of them that they were wrong and that my birth certificate was a valid document as issued at the time I was born. She also informed them that they didn't have computer generated documents back then and to use their heads. She wasn't nice about it either. One of the few times I've had respect for a government prefect, too.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonMPD View Post
    The supervisor and I had a brief conversation
    Did the conversation happen to involve the possibility of everyone in the office having to look over their shoulder for blue lights- - - - -frequently?


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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    All DL and tag agencies in the state of OK are privately owned with a tag agent of record responsible for their employees. I have about four choices in town and can have new tags or DL in 20 minuets if there is a line. Five to ten minutes if they aren't busy.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    NC DMV doesn't issue the DL at the office ... it is mailed to you from a contract company in MASSACHUSETTS and takes 5 to 7 business days. Funny thing is we can renew on line and use out previous DL photo but I was scared my photo from 8 years back just would not cut it for ID (those 8 years ain't been nice to me) ... especially firearms check stuff wise.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    I just renewed mine online on the 17th, site indicated up to 20 days to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorba View Post
    Was this the one in Merritt Island?

    I've had great interactions there, nary a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teach View Post
    Did the conversation happen to involve the possibility of everyone in the office having to look over their shoulder for blue lights- - - - -frequently?


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    If only.

    My business partner also came with me to register a trailer to our business DBA. We have all the commie paperwork required for the LLC and it's subordinate DBA name papers. They gave him a huge runaround about registering in the DBA versus he LLC.

    "We've never registered a DBA. Always the LLC."

    After destroying the poor things brain with not so layman explanations of assets allocated to DBAs under LLCs for tax purposes, she just did it.

    These folks work for the people. Unless I'm trying to defraud the DMV or commit any other crime otherwise--don't question me, just do it.


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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonMPD View Post
    Viera. The high and mighty center of the county.
    Oh, you mean "Viagra"? I forgot about that one. Try M.I. next time - they've always been friendly and good to me and mine!
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonMPD View Post
    So...

    I'm eligible to have my DL address changed without document re-compliance due to the level of compliance I met with identity verification the last time I renewed the DL. I go in to change it because I need it changed today. I can accomplish this online, but it's a 7-10 day wait for it in the mail, and something came up that I need it changed today.

    I wait in line for 20 minutes, blah blah, and I'm met with a lady who says I need a document to show residency. I inform her my level of previous compliance means I don't. I live 25 miles from the DMV, and I'm not driving the round trip to placate them. She said do it online and I don't need to submit a document.

    "So, you're telling me if I do this online in complete anonymity I can have a new license mailed wherever I want. BUT, in person I need to verify where I live?"

    She says yes. I tell her I need my address changed now. I wasn't coarse I was direct.

    "Sir you'll need to leave."

    I told her no, politely. I was not leaving a tax funded place of customer service without services rendered at my demand.

    The supervisor and I had a brief conversation and the address was changed with little fuss.

    I HATE people who work at government buildings. Interacting with them makes it painfully obvious how the Hitlers and Stalins of the world rise to power.


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    When I worked in the government, I did not and was not rude to people .
    This was a no no. BUt I would work and get things done for them .
    BUt then I was in their buildings and not the other way around.
    Sorry for your head ache.
    Though I suggest you file a paper mailed complaint to the DMV office in the state capital.
    explaining the issues and the confrontation.
    This worker needs to know that their comments are not well taken.
    Reason I say paper copy is due to a signature, govt offices seem to jump more when there is a signature on documents.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Getting tags for cars renewed used to be a SNAP for me. Neighbor lady worked for the license place. I'd hand her my paperwork and some cash, she'd bring home new tags. Best. Thing. Ever.
    Well, almost the best thing. Now we have the best thing ever. We can do it online. They add like a $2-3 "processing fee" to the total. Which to be able to renew tags from my recliner (butt nekkid if I choose) is worth an extra $50 to not have to deal with them. Even though, they aren't near as bad as they once were. Used to they were state employees. So they didn't care LESS about how they treated you. Then a republican governor stepped in and wiped out their jobs, and basically subcontracted the process out to individuals. MUCH MUCH MUCH better service.
    When it was still state run, I'd much rather take an ass whipping than to go to the license office.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    We have done lic renewals online for years. When you do have to go there it really depends on the day. If everyone brought their own brain, it works OK, if they are sharing one, then it is a hassle.

    I have had to work in there more than once and it is ALWAYS a pain. They think they are Ft Knox or something. Last year we were doing a transfer and I got to tell them "no". It was kinda fun. I got the manager and told him that he would be losing service for a bit while we threw the ckt. He goes "We cant have that , You wont be taking us out of service, who authorized this, bla bla bla." I said, " I'm sorry sir, but you dont seem to understand. We own the cable, if we choose to do a throw, we can do a throw. This is a courtesy visit. The circuit is going down, if you want to work with us I can mitigate the time you are out of service, or if not, I will pick it up on trouble tomorrow." He really didnt know what to do at that point. Amazingly enough, they wanted to work with me after that.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Boy Deuce View Post
    All DL and tag agencies in the state of OK are privately owned with a tag agent of record responsible for their employees. I have about four choices in town and can have new tags or DL in 20 minuets if there is a line. Five to ten minutes if they aren't busy.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Boy Deuce View Post
    All DL and tag agencies in the state of OK are privately owned with a tag agent of record responsible for their employees. I have about four choices in town and can have new tags or DL in 20 minuets if there is a line. Five to ten minutes if they aren't busy.
    When ours was state run there was a few privately owned ones also. If you had anything out of the norm, you went there because they would work with you, and do so with a smile. The lines were out the door, but worth the wait because the lady behind the counter wasn't a crazy mean old bitch.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    In Cali, AAA members can do tags and transfers at any AAA office (no DL business though). Apparently, in Florida, that isn't the case.
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    Re: Being told to leave the DMV.

    Tags in MS are handled by the elected.county tax collector/assessor so service is generally pretty good since the "boss" wants to get re-elected.

    The hwy patrol handles dl's. In a small town like mine, their local office is only staffed 1 day/wks. You can travel to a district hq or renew online.

    However, all cdl's must go to a "cdl" license station of the hwy patrol. I have a cdl so I have to travel 50+ miles 1 way, pass a district hq, to renew my cdl.

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    You don't know the full level of butt-pain until you have dealt with the GS and contract employees on Ft Gordon. I swear it is a mafia where the they compete to see who can be the least inefficient at what they do.
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