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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by CHIRO1989 View Post
    How is that not a stock? A stabilizing "fin"?
    Yep...its called a stabilizer blade...ATF letter included with purchase

    http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1970
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetoh734 View Post
    Hopefully not hijacking the thread but just put the blade on this one now that BATFE says its not "redesigning" the brace if you happen to shoulder it.

    My son has the Original SIG brace. He's tired of the BATFE changing their minds back and forth on this issue so he just sent out for his SBR tax stamp on his...
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetoh734 View Post
    Yep...its called a stabilizer blade...ATF letter included with purchase

    http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1970
    Might have to try one. Just for laughs.
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetoh734 View Post
    Yep...its called a stabilizer blade...ATF letter included with purchase

    http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1970
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Its a sweet...arm brace...because shooting a 10.3" upper with one hand is super shaky without it...

    With a "cheek weld" its really quite handy, both eyes open with the Fastfire and co-witness with the BUIS if you flip them up, so far I like.

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    No chance of it spinning or rotating on the buffer tube?
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Got the buffer tube and blade combo and the set screw locks in to any one of ~12-15 different holes on the tube and it is secured pretty well, probably more so than a traditional adjustable shoulder stock.

    https://www.kakindustry.com/shockwav...ve-package-fde

    This is exactly what I ordered and the right website link this time.

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    That looks like the ticket, price is better than a Sig brace too.

    Here is some more info:
    http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?p=3524
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    I WANT to want one. But every time I Shoot one, I change my mind. However for the prices we are seeing, I may be swayed.

    This.

    At this point, since I have my NFA trust set up, I'd rather put the money towards the $200 stamp to SBR one of my current lowers as opposed to building a pistol lower.
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Having a pistol lower is a BIG plus. Just transporting an SBR is not hard within your state and even with the pile of Form 20s I fill every year it isn't bad out of state. But being in a pistol configuration it can be in a tennis racket case in the front seat legally in NC unlike my SBR. The money I have invested in my pistol lower (about $250) for me just adds a little more flexibility for sub 16" uppers and when some a little more than a standard handgun is wanted in the vehicle.
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    Yep! In most places a rifle has to be carried unloaded and cased - not accessible to the driver With a "pistol" it covered by your concealed weapons permit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawker View Post
    Yep! In most places a rifle has to be carried unloaded and cased - not accessible to the driver With a "pistol" it covered by your concealed weapons permit...
    So what are you mulling over? Are you moving forward on this project?
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by CHIRO1989 View Post
    So what are you mulling over? Are you moving forward on this project?
    Well, since I'm retired and on a fixed income I have to buy it a bit at a time... I'm going to drive up to Traverse City next week to pick up a stripped lower...then next payday I'll order the lower kit from PSA and the stock blade...then the payday after that I'll order the upper....should I go on? Nowadays any firearm purchase takes some rather involved doing...Figure I'll have it done in July or so....
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawker View Post
    Well, since I'm retired and on a fixed income I have to buy it a bit at a time... I'm going to drive up to Traverse City next week to pick up a stripped lower...then next payday I'll order the lower kit from PSA and the stock blade...then the payday after that I'll order the upper....should I go on? Nowadays any firearm purchase takes some rather involved doing...Figure I'll have it done in July or so....
    I hear you, I buy and build the same way, I have a box o' parts waiting to be assembled into a pistol, maybe this weekend if I can get the garden in the right direction.
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    If you were considering a .300 BO in a pistola... 10 inch is better for silenced heavy rounds.


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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by CHIRO1989 View Post
    Has anyone tried a brake with the concussive/redirector sleeve? I have the Levang style and like it.
    I put the kineti tech cpj linked to on my Axis in 308 Win. As he mentioned, yes, it does re direct the blast and makes it less obnoxious to shoot. In my application, the recoil reduction quality of the brake seems to be diminished just a touch when the sleeve is on it. Not much, but enough that I can tell a slight difference with and without it. I have also a change in POI of several inches with and without the sleeve on it. But that would likely be different from application to application.

    The other thing about it, it is ugly. But then, so is my Axis. Ugly + ugly, makes no difference to me. I wouldn't put one on a nice looking gun.

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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I put the kineti tech cpj linked to on my Axis in 308 Win. As he mentioned, yes, it does re direct the blast and makes it less obnoxious to shoot. In my application, the recoil reduction quality of the brake seems to be diminished just a touch when the sleeve is on it. Not much, but enough that I can tell a slight difference with and without it. I have also a change in POI of several inches with and without the sleeve on it. But that would likely be different from application to application.

    The other thing about it, it is ugly. But then, so is my Axis. Ugly + ugly, makes no difference to me. I wouldn't put one on a nice looking gun.
    Thanks, I was just wondering why the sleeve and not just get a Levang style, interesting the POI changes that much, I just want the muzzle blast away from my fingers with the shorter pistol barrel.
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    Re: Building an AR pistol...need a little help

    Ok...the stripped lower is home...went to The Armory in Traverse City expecting to get an Anderson or a Spikes...but they had a really good deal on Ruger lowers so that's where we're gonna start...
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    That'll work.
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    Good first step
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    Ok...the lower build kit and brace are in the mail.
    I also jumped the gun on the upper, but PSA had a deal on an 8.5" upper I couldn't let pass....
    The waiting begins....
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    Well THAT didn't take long!!!

    Hope they ship faster than Midway
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    Well THAT didn't take long!!!
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