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    My buddy has been twice to Africa hunting. Our kids we're younger and I couldn't afford to go. Yes, the airfares can be pricey but the main issue is staying off of the trigger. he said you need to go with X kinds of animals to shoot be it a wildebeest, types of plains antelopes or what have you and stick with it. Most hunts run in the $2K range for a given number of plains animals. But then your guide catches you in the moment where they see a huge wart hog. They say he's only $450, then you see a hyena and they say he's only $400. My buddy said most of the hunters who were planning on $2 or $3K hunts spend $5 to $7k because they couldn't stay off of the trigger. Next is the taxidermy of the animals which isn't that bad price wise. However it will cost you 1.5 to 2 times the cost of the taxidermy animal to ship back to the US. My buddies shipping cost from his last trip exceeded $3K.

    His advice for an African plains hunt is to budget $10K and you'll have the time of your life and trophies to bring home. BTW a cape buffalo hunt is around $15K to $20K plus trophy fees for a 10 day hunt. Elephants can fetch $20 to $25K plus trophy fees. It's a rich mans hunt!
    That's not as bad as I thought. I know places in Colorado that charge $7500 to $12,500 and up for a guided elk hunt. Plains mule deer hunts can run $8k, and even antelope hunts can cost around $2k. That doesn't cover the cost of non-resident licenses, which can run around $500 per species.

    Ever hunt I've ever made has been a DIY affair, even though I've paid what I considered hefty trespass fees (when I lived in Texas years ago). Hunting in Utah and Colorado on public land only cost whatever a license cost, but I usually had to deal with a lot of other hunters. I found that land owners on the eastern plains of Colorado welcomed antelope hunters. The most I ever paid was a bottle of Jack Daniels.

    As for the trophy shipping cost, I learned the hard way how much that can be. When we moved from Colorado, and were getting moving quotes, I was getting quotes as high as $2k just to crate the elk mount in my avatar. I ended up building one myself for about 1/10th of that. It also contains my antelope mount and a bunch of antler mounts. Now all I have to do is open the crate and rehang the mounts. Hanging an elk mount is not a 1 man job.
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    How much would you (not meant to anyone in particular) pay for an African safari, whether it be for strictly plains game, buffalo, big cats, elephants or whatever? Just the cost of transportation keeps me from going.

    I've obviously never been on such a hunt, but everything I know about them is that they're truly fair chase. But, the hunters typically have nice living quarters, good food prepared by someone other than themselves, a professional hunter who knows the game and territory, and expert native trackers. Is it stupid to pony up whatever that costs?

    I know that some of our members have made such hunts, and might take exception to this response, but there's all levels of what some consider acceptable and not.

    The closest I've come to a guided anything is a couple or three guided fishing trips on a local river that last a day or half day. I did it more to learn than anything else. But, I don't consider those who have been on guided hunts of any kind as stupid. I'm not even going to guess as to their penis size. I'll leave that to Chris.
    There's an enormous difference on going on a guided hunt, and going to a zoo (high fence operation) to shoot a "trophy".
    Guided hunts aren't for me, and wouldn't be unless I win the lottery. And even then, I'm independent enough I'd "waste"10 times the time and money to learn the land, and find the animals and do it myself. Some would rather just have the guide to the work. That's cool. It just ain't me. "But Chris you may waste 3 years trying to find an animal to hunt!"
    So? I don't hunt to kill animals. They are a bonus.

    Now, shooting a freak of nature inside a cage....you may not be stupid, but youre a tool bag with a tiny penis.
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    A high fence "trophy" shoot of a genetically modified deer with as much effort put in as buying Cabelas Big Game Hunter and hanging it on the wall, is about the same as getting a tattoo. Just something to show off to someone who might be impressed seeing something that means nothing. I would rather take a doe in the back yard with a flintlock or own a scar that has a real story than either. At least to get them I did something other than throw money at it.

    As to rich people not being stupid? I agree. Contrary to popular opinion a wide majority of rich people didnt inherit their wealth, they worked for it. Though they are as ignorant, sometimes more so, as anyone else about things not in their purview. Sometimes being really good at something makes one think that they are good at everything. In the high fence hunt scenario, it would take that kind of ignorance to even consider a altered buck that was spoon fed to you a trophy to be proud of. Not even the same as being proud of a new Ferrari siting next to a Lamborghini. At least one earns those.
    I worked for a guy that had a bible under glass in his home. If auctioned, it would likely go for enough to buy and sell everyone here, and he EARNED every dime he had. That didnt make him the be all to end all in decision making in any other aspect except in his business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post

    Now, shooting a freak of nature inside a cage....you may not be stupid, but youre a tool bag with a tiny penis.
    (Had to get a penis comment in. I was tasked with such)
    Was the full length mirror tilted down this morning when you got out of the shower? You have answered every thread today with remarks about skeeter shanks...
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.

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    There's an enormous difference on going on a guided hunt, and going to a zoo (high fence operation) to shoot a "trophy".
    Guided hunts aren't for me, and wouldn't be unless I win the lottery. And even then, I'm independent enough I'd "waste"10 times the time and money to learn the land, and find the animals and do it myself. Some would rather just have the guide to the work. That's cool. It just ain't me. "But Chris you may waste 3 years trying to find an animal to hunt!"
    So? I don't hunt to kill animals. They are a bonus.

    Now, shooting a freak of nature inside a cage....you may not be stupid, but youre a tool bag with a tiny penis.
    (Had to get a penis comment in. I was tasked with such)
    You don't know much about game ranching operations if you think that it's shooting animals in a cage. At least on the ones I know about, it's a couple hundred acres to each 'cage' with lots of thick cover and varying terrain inside them- abnd without the guide you won't see jack. My best friend worked as a guide on a few of the really big ranches in Texas (was actually Dale Earnhardt's guide on 3 hunts), and I have been on a doe cull on one of the ranches. When you see one in a real cage, it's usually for breeding purposes, or for selling the animal to another ranch.

    And yes- there are big companies that do big hunts and invite clients to go on hunts (with celebrities like the above mentioned stock car driver) where the big company (Budweiser in this case) paid for people to get the chance to hunt once in a lifetime whitetail deer and exotic african animals. It's a big business.

    Neat fact- there are more Nilgai antilope in Texas then there are in it's native africa. Before the game ranches in TX got interested in the nilgai, it was endangered, and on its way to extinction. Some ranches bought some breeding stock from zoos, and brought the "turkey bearded devil cows" off the endangered list and made them a huge moneymaker here.

    Would I pay to go shoot an animal on a game ranch? Maybe. I don't need to at this point, but I would sure as hell go to one here for exotics before I would go to Africa to shoot a safari animal. Close to home, no weird laws on guns, i actually get the meat off of MY animal, and not leaving the US where the chances of getting thrown in a 3rd world jail or kidnapped for ransom.
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    Never been to a "game ranch", but fact is, it's 200 acres of cage, period. Thick? Meh. Ain't gonna be that difficult to find your quarry. Stumble around long enough, and you'll succeed.
    And even if it IS tough, and you did hire a guide, you KNOW the deer/critter will be there. You'll get to see the pics the ranch owner has taken, and specifically target the critter. It's no different than claiming you scored with a hot chick in Vegas. But that hot chick was a hooker you selected on the whore house website. You just can't show pics to just anyone of the one you bagged. And posing for selfies may be frowned upon. And of course there's the itching, rash, etc. So maybe it's similar, not "no different "
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    Was the full length mirror tilted down this morning when you got out of the shower? You have answered every thread today with remarks about skeeter shanks...
    Theres skeeter on my peter, get it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    Never been to a "game ranch", but fact is, it's 200 acres of cage, period. Thick? Meh. Ain't gonna be that difficult to find your quarry. Stumble around long enough, and you'll succeed.
    And even if it IS tough, and you did hire a guide, you KNOW the deer/critter will be there. You'll get to see the pics the ranch owner has taken, and specifically target the critter. It's no different than claiming you scored with a hot chick in Vegas. But that hot chick was a hooker you selected on the whore house website. You just can't show pics to just anyone of the one you bagged. And posing for selfies may be frowned upon. And of course there's the itching, rash, etc. So maybe it's similar, not "no different "
    Oh well, at least you made one post without making a comment about penis size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    Never been to a "game ranch", but fact is, it's 200 acres of cage, period. Thick? Meh. Ain't gonna be that difficult to find your quarry. Stumble around long enough, and you'll succeed.
    And even if it IS tough, and you did hire a guide, you KNOW the deer/critter will be there. You'll get to see the pics the ranch owner has taken, and specifically target the critter. It's no different than claiming you scored with a hot chick in Vegas. But that hot chick was a hooker you selected on the whore house website. You just can't show pics to just anyone of the one you bagged. And posing for selfies may be frowned upon. And of course there's the itching, rash, etc. So maybe it's similar, not "no different "
    Yep. You don't know how the game ranches work.
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    Most high fence ranches are a minimum of 1200 plus acres or two square miles. When my knuckle head neighbor high fenced his 408 acres eighteen months ago our local are game biologists told him that it was too small of a section to high fence along with a number of reasons why. He told him the minimum preferred to high was around 1200 acres. Now each ranch is different but most of these high fence ranches have a lot of $$$ invested in their operations. The cost of the high fence is crazy, it cost my neighbor $140K to high fence his 408 acres. Then you have the cost of putting high quality trophy game on it. We have a trophy whitetail breeder just outside Archery City TX about 30 min away from me. I've got lots of pics of these freaks of nature whitetails which are all well into the 200 plus class range deer. I asked how much those would cost to put on a ranch and was told $3500 to $8K. That's just to purchase them. Then there's the cost of the high quality protein feed among many other aspects of their operations.

    Like I said earlier, it's a rich mans game to hunt some of these places. Though not all of these ranches are this expensive, there's ranches to fit most every budget out there! i've got a buddy who charges $100 a day to hog hunt on his place, he wants the hogs gone but enjoys making a few bucks out it. Exoctic's can be relatively cheap to hunt depending on the animal. All comes down to wants and needs and if you can afford it.

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    Re: How much would you pay to shoot (and keep) a red deer hind?

    Quote Originally Posted by bullsi1911 View Post
    You don't know much about game ranching operations if you think that it's shooting animals in a cage. At least on the ones I know about, it's a couple hundred acres to each 'cage' with lots of thick cover and varying terrain inside them- abnd without the guide you won't see jack. My best friend worked as a guide on a few of the really big ranches in Texas (was actually Dale Earnhardt's guide on 3 hunts), and I have been on a doe cull on one of the ranches. When you see one in a real cage, it's usually for breeding purposes, or for selling the animal to another ranch.
    Not so fast.

    The only one I have ever been to was the one that had the pigs. The pigs were in a pen, a HUGE pen so the odds were pretty good of getting one, but not 100% and you did work for it. The exotics on the other hand were in a pasture, and it wasnt a huge pasture. The guide said it was pay (a lot), get driven to the critter, shoot, then they take care of the carcass. Drive within 30 yards of a buffalo, shoot it, watch it fall, get driven back to the lodge.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpj View Post
    Theres skeeter on my peter, get it off.
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    There's a thousand more a comin
    I can hear them all a buzzin
    There's a skeeter on my peter get it off!
    Theres a skeeter on my peter knock it off
    Theres a skeeter on my peter knock it off
    Theres a dozen on my cousin you can hear them ......ers buzzin
    Theres a skeeter on my peter knock it off

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    Not so fast.

    The only one I have ever been to was the one that had the pigs. The pigs were in a pen, a HUGE pen so the odds were pretty good of getting one, but not 100% and you did work for it. The exotics on the other hand were in a pasture, and it wasnt a huge pasture. The guide said it was pay (a lot), get driven to the critter, shoot, then they take care of the carcass. Drive within 30 yards of a buffalo, shoot it, watch it fall, get driven back to the lodge.
    I grew up in the middle of hundreds of game ranches- some of them world famous (my sister managed part of the YO Ranch in Mountain Home, TX, my buddy worked at a few including the 777 in Hondo, TZ). Never heard of such a thing- what you mentioned is just not done. I'm surprised anyone would pay for such a thing.

    Now, I have heard of pig eradication programs where they trap the pigs into a portable corral and then gun them down, donate what meat they can, and feed the buzzards the rest. But that's not something that anyone would pay a guiding fee for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmintmist View Post
    Not so fast.

    The only one I have ever been to was the one that had the pigs. The pigs were in a pen, a HUGE pen so the odds were pretty good of getting one, but not 100% and you did work for it. The exotics on the other hand were in a pasture, and it wasnt a huge pasture. The guide said it was pay (a lot), get driven to the critter, shoot, then they take care of the carcass. Drive within 30 yards of a buffalo, shoot it, watch it fall, get driven back to the lodge.
    I have never heard of any ranches or outfits like you described in the great state of Texas. My buddy who charges $100 a day to hunt has 515 acres in Palo Pinto county. Lots of thick cedars but some very open areas. He tells folks it's a fair chase hunt and no guarantees to see, shoot or kill anything. He told me he has about a 65% success rate depending on how the weather goes.

    Can you name a few of the ones you've been to? I heard horror stories about some of the buffalo hunts in WY that they were a drive up and shoot. My buffalo hunt was on 18000 acres and I worked my rear end off to get my shot. No animals in pens. Not saying those pen hunt places don't exist but I've never heard or seen any of them and never heard of one in Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff in TX View Post
    I have never heard of any ranches or outfits like you described in the great state of Texas. My buddy who charges $100 a day to hunt has 515 acres in Palo Pinto county. Lots of thick cedars but some very open areas. He tells folks it's a fair chase hunt and no guarantees to see, shoot or kill anything. He told me he has about a 65% success rate depending on how the weather goes.

    Can you name a few of the ones you've been to? I heard horror stories about some of the buffalo hunts in WY that they were a drive up and shoot. My buffalo hunt was on 18000 acres and I worked my rear end off to get my shot. No animals in pens. Not saying those pen hunt places don't exist but I've never heard or seen any of them and never heard of one in Texas.
    Linefinder and I did one of those drive up and shoot buffalo outings in southern Colorado. As I've said before, I did it mostly for the meat, and have never made any pretense of it being a hunt. I also wanted to see how my 338x284 performed. At 30 yards on a 600-700 lb. cow, it did ok.

    I never had any desire to do another one, though. For one thing, it did not produce cheap meat, and I discovered that eating bison gets olds after a while.

    I wouldn't call it a horror story, but I definitely wouldn't call it a hunt, either.

    The same landowner who did the shoot had another pasture with some free ranging bulls. He claimed that taking one of those was much more of a challenge, and by no means a sure thing. I wouldn't want to do that, either.
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    Some may be willing to pay $25K for an animal.

    I am am not one of those "some".

    I am not even willing to pay $1K for a red deer hind. So, I might screw your results.
    If I paid $1K, I would want the entire deer, not just the hind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    Linefinder and I did one of those drive up and shoot buffalo outings in southern Colorado. As I've said before, I did it mostly for the meat, and have never made any pretense of it being a hunt. I also wanted to see how my 338x284 performed. At 30 yards on a 600-700 lb. cow, it did ok.

    I never had any desire to do another one, though. For one thing, it did not produce cheap meat, and I discovered that eating bison gets olds after a while.

    I wouldn't call it a horror story, but I definitely wouldn't call it a hunt, either.

    The same landowner who did the shoot had another pasture with some free ranging bulls. He claimed that taking one of those was much more of a challenge, and by no means a sure thing. I wouldn't want to do that, either.
    Lindfinder told me about y'all's hunt after I posted the successful story of my hunt. I'm not sure I could do a pen hunt, would rather just go to an auction sale and purchase the animal and take it to a butcher, but on the flip side if it's pretty cool to see how a particular bullet/load/caliber would do on a large animal.

    We're waiting to see if we get drawn for the fall of 2018 buffalo hunt. Should know by the end of the month.

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    Folks, I cull for "game ranches".

    I show up, they tell me what they need to take off their ranch to maintain a well balanced herd. I go to a likely location and throw out corn or feed to a desirable distance. I lay on the ground or get in a blind of some sort.

    Under such circumstances, I have seen immaculate whitetail bucks, African game, exotics, and what have you. It's quite amazing.

    But, I am there to do a job. And that is to thin the herd of whatever the particular animal is at the time. Folks.........it ain't that hard. Shooting a monster buck is actually quite easy. Selectively culling the right doe or cull buck sometimes takes a few attempts. Either way. It's fun to be outside. It's fun to do ballistic testing. And sometimes, it's fun to allow my boy to get the experience of taking game or just hanging out with me.

    Is it worth paying for that opportunity?

    Seeing as how I have a "particular set of skills", I don't have to pay. But then, I don't get to shoot the monsters either. Just the riff raft.
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    Then again, my boy has been offered a nice axis buck this season because of my help with the herd.
    . Maybe not a "trophy buck" by monetary standards. But, more than I have ever been offered. And I am absolutely ok with that! I would rather him get the chance than I any day. Will it be from a high fence operation? Yep. Do I care? Nope. Am I paying for it with money? Not a chance.

    Just time and attention to keep a place running. The dividend is him getting a shot at a nice axis buck. For a young boy, I'm ok with that.

    I never had had those chances as a kid. But then, he may never shoot a Rocky Mountain Elk like I have.
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    I never had had those chances as a kid. But then, he may never shoot a Rocky Mountain Elk like I have.
    I certainly hope he gets the chance to hunt them.

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    Im not a trophy hunter. I've only shot two antlered ungulates in my life. The only big game I've even photographed after a hunt was my Dad's.

    To me it's about participating in the pursuit, and the adventures that entailes. I might pay a nominal fee to see a red deer or watch someone else shoot it, but I might not.
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    Then again, my boy has been offered a nice axis buck this season because of my help with the herd.
    . Maybe not a "trophy buck" by monetary standards. But, more than I have ever been offered. And I am absolutely ok with that! I would rather him get the chance than I any day. Will it be from a high fence operation? Yep. Do I care? Nope. Am I paying for it with money? Not a chance.

    Just time and attention to keep a place running. The dividend is him getting a shot at a nice axis buck. For a young boy, I'm ok with that.

    I never had had those chances as a kid. But then, he may never shoot a Rocky Mountain Elk like I have.
    Your boy is already very fortunate just having you as a dad. My only hunting memory with my dad was him standing next to a buck I shot while pretending it was his. He just did it for fun, but my point is that my dad was not much of an outdoorsman and we shared little in common interests. You probably spend more quality time with your boy in one month than I did with my dad in your average year which is wonderful in and of itself!
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    Exactly, so assuming someone is stupid because they can pay a lot of money for a throphy makes no sense to me. I can say from personal experience I have not met a lot of stupid rich people. But I do believe the ones that are get a lot of press. I don't believe they are the majority.
    The only ones I can think of live in a place called Hollywood California, or at least work there. I think it must have something to do with the air there. Or maybe the stress from living so close to that big fault line.

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    Re: How much would you pay to shoot (and keep) a red deer hind?

    Years ago, I gauged interest on here with a few guys about a group red hind hunt in TX, iirc it was $3-400 per hind. Even today I'm seeing $500 +/- as they're considered add-ons or cull/ meat hunts. Mostly to thin the herd. 1k is outrageous.

    The 1 time i hunted a private ranch it was 18k acres, and I was amazed how big it actually is when you're boots are on on the ground. Only saw a fence once, because we worked a canyon next to the property line. Now this was wide open prairie, I imagine even 1/4 of that size, if dense and thick with vegetation, Could make things interesting.
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    As to the Africa costs, you're paying for an experience that you just cannot get anywhere else. Its cheaper to fly there and shoot 6-15 animals than it is to shoot 1 eland in TX. Its cheaper to do most ANY plains game package then it is for near ANY north American trophy.

    Skip the taxidermy (biggest hidden cost) and shoot more animals, or go a 2nd time. Dip & packing the animals, transfer to a broker, transfer to a taxidermy shop if having it done, the shipping materials, customs forms, actual shipping charges, dealing with US customs, USF&W if you have any CITES list animals, getting it from port of entry to YOUR door or your taxidermist....4-5 basic plains game is likely going to cost you 4-7k all said and done, extra. Go euro mount if you must, and you're looking 1-4k. Or, take lots of pictures, have them professionally blown up and framed, hang THAT in your den.....and go back to Africa again
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    My buddy has been twice to Africa hunting. Our kids we're younger and I couldn't afford to go. Yes, the airfares can be pricey but the main issue is staying off of the trigger. he said you need to go with X kinds of animals to shoot be it a wildebeest, types of plains antelopes or what have you and stick with it. Most hunts run in the $2K range for a given number of plains animals. But then your guide catches you in the moment where they see a huge wart hog. They say he's only $450, then you see a hyena and they say he's only $400. My buddy said most of the hunters who were planning on $2 or $3K hunts spend $5 to $7k because they couldn't stay off of the trigger. Next is the taxidermy of the animals which isn't that bad price wise. However it will cost you 1.5 to 2 times the cost of the taxidermy animal to ship back to the US. My buddies shipping cost from his last trip exceeded $3K.

    His advice for an African plains hunt is to budget $10K and you'll have the time of your life and trophies to bring home. BTW a cape buffalo hunt is around $15K to $20K plus trophy fees for a 10 day hunt. Elephants can fetch $20 to $25K plus trophy fees. It's a rich mans hunt!

    One of my friends went to Africa with his wife for a plains game Safari. He was having so much fun he just kept shooting stuff. His trophy room has 52 animals from that trip... Even he will admit he got a little carried away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff in TX View Post
    Can you name a few of the ones you've been to? I heard horror stories about some of the buffalo hunts in WY that they were a drive up and shoot. My buffalo hunt was on 18000 acres and I worked my rear end off to get my shot. No animals in pens. Not saying those pen hunt places don't exist but I've never heard or seen any of them and never heard of one in Texas.
    The 1 ranch I went to for pigs had a separate "grassland" for exotics. After our pig hunt the guide took us to the pasture and we drove up on every critter there and he described how it was done, and answered yes to the question about people actually paying huge amounts of money for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varmintmist View Post
    The 1 ranch I went to for pigs had a separate "grassland" for exotics. After our pig hunt the guide took us to the pasture and we drove up on every critter there and he described how it was done, and answered yes to the question about people actually paying huge amounts of money for this.
    Was this in TX or PA? No personal experience but I have heard that a couple of the hunting "preserves" in PA are exactly what you described.
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    Re: How much would you pay to shoot (and keep) a red deer hind?

    Here's a pic from my one and only canned hunt. Back before feral hogs got to be an epidemic, a bunch of people near Crossville Tennessee ran high-fenced areas and basically farmed the remnants of the Russian boars that were imported a hundred years ago for private hunting lodges. The result of those animals crossing with free-range domestic pigs in the area resulted in some pretty big crossbreeds.



    That's part of the high fence behind me, but toward the middle of the 500 acres, there was more challenging terrain. The entire experience was pretty disappointing, and I don't intend to ever try it again. There were a bunch of hidden fees involved, mostly for "processing" the kill, and I ended up with a couple of coolers full of mediocre sausage for my money. That 225 lb. sow ended up costing me around $600.00 and the "hunt" was over in about two hours. I was sitting on a big rock overlooking a well-traveled trail when one of the "guides" came blasting up on an ATV and insisted that I come shoot a pig their dogs had cornered in the root ball of a blowdown tree. I made the shot from about 15 yards- - - -no actual "hunting involved, other than making sure I didn't shoot one of the dogs!

    The same lodge offered various exotics, mostly African antelope for outrageous prices, but if my hunt was any example, it wouldn't have appealed to me at all.
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    Re: How much would you pay to shoot (and keep) a red deer hind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Was this in TX or PA? No personal experience but I have heard that a couple of the hunting "preserves" in PA are exactly what you described.
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    It would definitely take a person who was pretty full of themselves to take anything like that for a trophy. I have heard the same. I think there is a place just north of me that has pens. The more dollars, the bigger the critter. Walk through between the pens and pick your target.
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