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    In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Happy Columbus Day!
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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Why do we celebrate a guy who got so lost he thought he was half way around the world ... in India ? A guy who actually didn’t set foot on US soil? Discovering a land that wasn’t unkown Leif Erikson had landed in the NE part of North America about 500 years before Columbus landed in the Caribbean area.

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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Quote Originally Posted by NCFUBAR View Post
    Why do we celebrate a guy who got so lost he thought he was half way around the world ... in India ? A guy who actually didn’t set foot on US soil? Discovering a land that wasn’t unkown Leif Erikson had landed in the NE part of North America about 500 years before Columbus landed in the Caribbean area.

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    Maybe because the "new world" was relatively unknown to Europe until he stumbled across it.
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    Why not.............the Vikings didn't last so long...........maybe the Ingins killed them all.............and the "Indigenous Peoples" got to enjoy North America for 500 more years without European Civilization having any impact on them. A holiday is a holiday.
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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Quote Originally Posted by NCFUBAR View Post
    Why do we celebrate a guy who got so lost he thought he was half way around the world ... in India ? A guy who actually didn’t set foot on US soil? Discovering a land that wasn’t unkown Leif Erikson had landed in the NE part of North America about 500 years before Columbus landed in the Caribbean area.

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    Happy Columbus Day back at cha, BC! As to who actually found the Americas, it's six of one and a half dozen of the other. It's a holiday for most, so shut up, drink a beer or three, and enjoy the long weekend!
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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    He got so lost he landed in Jersey. Can't even go to the shore without fist pumping and snooky. At least Mrs Axe was a bonus out of it.

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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Quote Originally Posted by tennmike View Post
    As to who actually found the Americas, it's six of one and a half dozen of the other.
    Where they lost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Chief View Post
    Why not.............the Vikings didn't last so long...........maybe the Ingins killed them all.............and the "Indigenous Peoples" got to enjoy North America for 500 more years without European Civilization having any impact on them. A holiday is a holiday.
    When the upper reaches of the Missouri River were first explored, they encountered Mandan Indians with blond hair and blue eyes....so I'm thinking some of those Vikings made it quite a way West....
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    If you want to talk about lost, look no further than Zebulon Pike. He had absolutely no idea where he was when he discovered Pike's Peak. For all I know, he thought he was still in Kansas.
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    His actual name was Cristoforo Colombo Fontanarosa. Just saying...
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    Hey, Clint Eastwood movies on Sundance Ch today ........Where Eagles Dare is on now......I have some of them on Tape or DVD, but hey.............beats the news.
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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Quote Originally Posted by shush View Post
    Where they lost?
    Pretty much. He left not knowing where he was going. He had no idea where he was when he landed. And when he got back he didn't know where he'd been. Sounds like a few trips I've been on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    If you want to talk about lost, look no further than Zebulon Pike. He had absolutely no idea where he was when he discovered Pike's Peak. For all I know, he thought he was still in Kansas.
    He might have been...originally, Kansas Territory stretched from the Missouri River to the East Slope of the Rockies.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by tennmike View Post
    Happy Columbus Day back at cha, BC! As to who actually found the Americas, it's six of one and a half dozen of the other. It's a holiday for most, so shut up, drink a beer or three, and enjoy the long weekend!
    The way I got it figured Leif Erickson had the North part covered and Columbus covered the South.
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    His actual name was Cristoforo Colombo Fontanarosa. Just saying...
    But it's easier to say Columbus day than Fontanarosa day!
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    Columbus would have made a good used car salesman. Think about it. This Italian dude sweet talks the Queen of Spain into hocking her jewelry to buy and outfit three ships, and he has no firm data that sailing West will get him to China. And she buys it, hook, line, and sinker. And then he lays on more charm and gets a couple more trips out of it, AND HE NEVER FOUND THE ROUTE TO CHINA! That's one smooth talking Italian used car salesman!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tennmike View Post
    Columbus would have made a good used car salesman. Think about it. This Italian dude sweet talks the Queen of Spain into hocking her jewelry to buy and outfit three ships, and he has no firm data that sailing West will get him to China. And she buys it, hook, line, and sinker. And then he lays on more charm and gets a couple more trips out of it, AND HE NEVER FOUND THE ROUTE TO CHINA! That's one smooth talking Italian used car salesman!
    I've been in sales and business development for decades and I can tell you that I will take luck over talent any day. His business plan and financials were solid and then he stumbles on a huge pile of gold and resources that made Spain the most powerful country on earth for a looooooong time. Not bad for a dude without a GPS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    I've been in sales and business development for decades and I can tell you that I will take luck over talent any day. His business plan and financials were solid and then he stumbles on a huge pile of gold and resources that made Spain the most powerful country on earth for a looooooong time. Not bad for a dude without a GPS...
    No kiddin...............he could of wound up in er........ATHENS
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    No kiddin...............he could of wound up in er........ATHENS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    I've been in sales and business development for decades and I can tell you that I will take luck over talent any day. His business plan and financials were solid and then he stumbles on a huge pile of gold and resources that made Spain the most powerful country on earth for a looooooong time. Not bad for a dude without a GPS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by orchidman View Post
    So, what did you discover in Athens.....................?
    That I was in the wrong freakin' state...
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    No kiddin...............he could of wound up in er........ATHENS
    Then again he could have ended up in Hyannis Port. Can you imagine the accent?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    I've been in sales and business development for decades and I can tell you that I will take luck over talent any day. His business plan and financials were solid and then he stumbles on a huge pile of gold and resources that made Spain the most powerful country on earth for a looooooong time. Not bad for a dude without a GPS...
    We got an old sayin' about that down here in the South. "Even a blind hog finds an acorn ever once in a while."

    You gotta say that with a Southern accent for full effect, though.
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    There was some clown on Tucker Carlson tonight who said that Columbus killed 200,000 to 250,000 indigenous people. That's the first I've heard of that. I suspect he was referring to the Spaniards who came after him such as Cortez, Pizarro and Coronado, but that's not what he said.

    Anyone else ever hear of this?
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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    His actual name was Cristoforo Colombo Fontanarosa. Just saying...
    Thank You, was going to say that, and my mothers maiden name was. Colombo. All Os no u
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    There was some clown on Tucker Carlson tonight who said that Columbus killed 200,000 to 250,000 indigenous people. That's the first I've heard of that. I suspect he was referring to the Spaniards who came after him such as Cortez, Pizarro and Coronado, but that's not what he said.

    Anyone else ever hear of this?
    Yeah...these claims are being made by folks trying to push their cultural victim agenda. The other popular claim is the 100 million Native Americans died in North America during the " White Man's genocide".....Completely ignoring the fact that there were never 100 million Native Americans in North America....ever...

    The trick is that they post this crap on social media where the collective IQ is about that of a light bulb....and it just grows from there using the "it's on the internet so it must be true" theory...

    These people are masters of the concept of "Tell the same lie often enough and it will eventually become the truth".....and it works! The " useful idiots"
    ensure it....
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    Re: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    There was some clown on Tucker Carlson tonight who said that Columbus killed 200,000 to 250,000 indigenous people. That's the first I've heard of that. I suspect he was referring to the Spaniards who came after him such as Cortez, Pizarro and Coronado, but that's not what he said.

    Anyone else ever hear of this?
    Never heard that one. And if he did,So what? He won. I'm alive. them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    There was some clown on Tucker Carlson tonight who said that Columbus killed 200,000 to 250,000 indigenous people. That's the first I've heard of that. I suspect he was referring to the Spaniards who came after him such as Cortez, Pizarro and Coronado, but that's not what he said.

    Anyone else ever hear of this?
    Oh hell those libtards want to tear down everything there is about this country, even the history but they cant even get their slander straight.
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    Actually, since the people of the "New World" weren't Christians, there was justification to treat them as less than human. Sadly, those things still happen today.

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