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    Seems to have passed in the house. One step closer to national reciprocity. Now in the hands of senate.... God help us! Would love to know who the 9 republican congressman were who voted no.

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    Feinstein and Company have supposedly sneaked in some amendments associated with their draconian list of changes to the NICS that will severely screw up the purchase of firearms. IF it passes with those amendments intact, then we give up WAY MORE than we're getting with National Reciprocity. I'm really leaning towards wanting ALL Democrats in Congress to die slowly, in a big hot fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Seems to have passed in the house. One step closer to national reciprocity. Now in the hands of senate.... God help us! Would love to know who the 9 republican congressman were who voted no.
    This is not a good thing for gun owners. Read the bill. Those 9 did the right thing.

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    Re: HR38.........

    I found the following web page that contains the text of the bill.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr38/text/rh

    I must be missing something, because I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps someone can point out what I'm missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    I found the following web page that contains the text of the bill.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr38/text/rh

    I must be missing something, because I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps someone can point out what I'm missing.
    I see no issues either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Seems to have passed in the house. One step closer to national reciprocity. Now in the hands of senate.... God help us! Would love to know who the 9 republican congressman were who voted no.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buford View Post
    This is not a good thing for gun owners. Read the bill. Those 9 did the right thing.

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    Only 2 Republicans voted no.

    Republican votes against:
    Water B. Jones RINO-NC 3rd, has a 39% record voting AGAINST Republican Majority He will be hearing from me in rather strong terms.
    Rod Blum, R-Iowa 1st District


    Did NOT vote:
    Tom Rice R-SC 7th
    Jim Bridestein R-Ok 1st
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Only 2 Republicans voted no.

    Republican votes against:
    Water B. Jones RINO-NC 3rd, has a 39% record voting AGAINST Republican Majority He will be hearing from me in rather strong terms.
    Rod Blum, R-Iowa 1st District


    Did NOT vote:
    Tom Rice R-SC 7th
    Jim Bridestein R-Ok 1st
    I don't know where you got your numbers. Looking at JerryB's link and following the voting link on it, 14Rs voted "no" and 4Ds vote "aye"

    All the R nos and D ayes are listed right on the top under "Statistically Notable Votes"
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663


    Edited to add: WB Jones is down for an "Aye" in the above link
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    Quote Originally Posted by knitepoet View Post
    I don't know where you got your numbers. Looking at JerryB's link and following the voting link on it, 14Rs voted "no" and 4Ds vote "aye"

    All the R nos and D ayes are listed right on the top under "Statistically Notable Votes"
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663


    Edited to add: WB Jones is down for an "Aye" in the above link
    Louie Gomert of Texas voted no. That surprises me.

    I still don't see a problem with the bill, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBobCo View Post
    I found the following web page that contains the text of the bill.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr38/text/rh

    I must be missing something, because I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps someone can point out what I'm missing.
    That is the House of Representatives version of the Bill. The Senate will take it up next, and the usual suspects have already come out saying that it will have these bills attached to it to amend the bill as written.

    S2135 Mostly innocuous stuff that needed to be done.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/2135/text

    HR4447 This bill has some stinkers in it. Feinstein has been working adding verbiage to it to add to the Senate S2135 bill. Her additions aren't on the Congressional Record yet as the Senate hasn't taken up the H.R 38 bill yet. Look for some really interesting amendments when HR 38 hits the Senate.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/4477/text
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    I am not crazy about the fix nics thingy being thrown in there, I think nics should be dealt with differently... and not in the liberal sense. I am pretty sure it will be dead in the water by the time it hits senate anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knitepoet View Post
    I don't know where you got your numbers. Looking at JerryB's link and following the voting link on it, 14Rs voted "no" and 4Ds vote "aye"

    All the R nos and D ayes are listed right on the top under "Statistically Notable Votes"
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663


    Edited to add: WB Jones is down for an "Aye" in the above link

    I went to to another site. Must have punched in the wrong bill. Sorry, won’t yell at my Rep...
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    Those “little nuggets” that have been added could screw up NICS by adding more false no goes. Something like a forgotten out of state traffic ticket or such could flag a buyer. This could also translate to the NICS check run for CHPs or such. The anti-gunner’s poisoning of the House Bill hopefully will be cleaned up in then Senate but if not they win either way ... we don’t get national reciprocity or we get it at a fairly bad cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Sorry, won’t yell at my Rep...
    Didn't want you to fire off an angry email, and then get "Representative Jones didn't vote against it" as a reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by knitepoet View Post
    Didn't want you to fire off an angry email, and then get "Representative Jones didn't vote against it" as a reply
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Thanks!
    I've got your back mi hermano

    edited to add: It lists 4 Ds in the "significant votes" but says 6 actually voted for it
    Quote Originally Posted by Seven habits of highly effective pirates
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    Quote Originally Posted by knitepoet View Post
    I've got your back mi hermano

    edited to add: It lists 4 Ds in the "significant votes" but says 6 actually voted for it
    Those 6 Ds should just jump the fence and get it over with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wambli Ska View Post
    Those 6 Ds should just jump the fence and get it over with.
    I agree, and think the 14 Rs should do the same
    Quote Originally Posted by Seven habits of highly effective pirates
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