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    Optics/sights for ARs

    I am about to purchase my first AR. Unless I change my mind, I’ll be getting a Ruger MPR.
    Usage: plinking, fun target shooting and eventually hog hunting. I don’t care about using it for home defense.

    Would I be better off:
    1) Flip up “iron” sights for plinking. What should I get?

    2) until I can afford a really nice scope (I don’t buy Bad glass anymore), would borrowing a cheap Vortex 2-7 scope from my shotgun (no more shotgun only deer seasons for me :-)) be a decent solution? If so, what are some good mounts to look at?

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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    Scope on the MPR with all its extras like free floated bbl/better trigger/longer bbl and furniture.

    I own both and so far have keep the regular 556 with the flip-ups it came with except tried a red dot which sucked for me on it.
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    Magpul BUIS give you an affordable set of "irons"......less than a hundred bucks a set..

    There is a whole world of optics out there....Vortex made a good variety...but you can spend as much as you want on other options...One of the most useful optics I've used is the Millet DMS (Designated Marksman Scope) well thought out and designed....
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    Scope will probably have a pretty thick reticle, making accuracy work difficult.

    Considering mounts: Either some extra high Burris Signature Zee rings

    A couple of companies make 1 piece mounts

    Or, I bought a set of these Nikon P series 2 piece mounts to try on my 300BO upper (Still acquiring parts prior to assembly)
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    Edited to add: Haven't felt the need for BUIS on any of my AR uppers
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    For you use something like https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-P-223-1...on+p+223+scope in a one piece or two piece like Knight suggested will work
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    Quote Originally Posted by knitepoet View Post
    Scope will probably have a pretty thick reticle, making accuracy work difficult.

    Considering mounts: Either some extra high Burris Signature Zee rings

    A couple of companies make 1 piece mounts

    Or, I bought a set of these Nikon P series 2 piece mounts to try on my 300BO upper (Still acquiring parts prior to assembly)
    https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...s-matte-finish

    Edited to add: Haven't felt the need for BUIS on any of my AR uppers
    I normally use the Burris PEPR for mounting optics on AR platforms, however on my last rifle build I used the P series mounts that Knite mentioned because they were included with the Nikon scope I put on the rifle.....they worked out nicely....
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    I am building like my 6th AR and stumped on optics as well. I have Aimpoint PRO red dot optics on most of mine, but am looking at Vortex optics on my current build. Vortex does not come with rings apparently, so that's another project for me.
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    Quote Originally Posted by knitepoet View Post
    Haven't felt the need for BUIS on any of my AR uppers
    This...but I only have one.

    If my choices were iron sights or the 2-7scope, I would probably take Jayhawker's advise and put the Magpul BUIS on it until I got the scope I wanted.

    My AR started life with irons, then I added a red dot, then I pulled off the irons and the red dot. Put a Vortex 1-4 on it and have desire for anything else. Two eyes open shooting with just enough magnification to reach out a little.
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    Quote Originally Posted by SIGgal View Post
    I am building like my 6th AR and stumped on optics as well. I have Aimpoint PRO red dot optics on most of mine, but am looking at Vortex optics on my current build. Vortex does not come with rings apparently, so that's another project for me.
    It depends on what Vortex product you're getting...some have built-in mounts...the SPARC and SPARC II for instance....
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    I tried a Leupold mount and it was to close, they are the same style and size as the PEPR. I found that a longer Stoner from Midway gave me the little extra length to get the scope away from my eye. One rifle is carrying the Leupold 1-4 MK AR and the other is a vortex 1-4. Any problems shooting with them has not been because of the scope.
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    I'd go scope. My first choice in the economy price range would be the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6.


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    I would go with a 1-4 or 1-6x scope. I really like the Millett DMS I have, and I have heard really good things about the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullsi1911 View Post
    I would go with a 1-4 or 1-6x scope. I really like the Millett DMS I have, and I have heard really good things about the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6
    Yup, this. One other option is the Primary Arms 1-6x. Same basic price point as the other two with a different reticle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunshooter3 View Post
    I'd go scope. My first choice in the economy price range would be the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6.


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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    I started with flip up sights, then a SPARC, and finally settled on a Leupold 1-4x shotgun scope. Yes, the reticle is too thick for shooting tiny targets at 100 yards. But, I only cared about beer can accuracy at 100 yards or a little more, and it is fine for that. In fact, when I have something the size of a paper plate to aim at, I am fairly consistently in the center of it at ranges beyond 100 yards. If your eyes can still pick up the bulls-eye at 50 yards and beyond, the red dots work fine. If you need magnification, the 1-4x works well, without giving up the ability to shoot fairly quickly at short range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Boy Deuce View Post
    Yup, this. One other option is the Primary Arms 1-6x. Same basic price point as the other two with a different reticle.
    I have a PA 1-4 on a rifle, one buddy has the 1-6 on his AR, and another guy I know has the 1-8 on his AR. They are all REALLY solid glass, and probably made in the same factory in China that the Vortex is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullsi1911 View Post
    I have a PA 1-4 on a rifle, one buddy has the 1-6 on his AR, and another guy I know has the 1-8 on his AR. They are all REALLY solid glass, and probably made in the same factory in China that the Vortex is.
    Are any of you using the ACSS reticle? I have been curious about it.
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    Re: Optics/sights for ARs

    My only suggestion is make sure the reticle works well with your main purpose(s). I really like the Strike Eagle style action/CQB/quick type for action shooting but when I am looking for a little more precise shot it is a little thick and kinda awkward to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Boy Deuce View Post
    Are any of you using the ACSS reticle? I have been curious about it.
    both the 1-6 and 1-8 have that, and love it. The holdovers are close, but not 100% absolute... but that's to be expected once you start getting out to 400 yards with the differences in barrels, bullets, altitude, humidity, etc...
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    I can't use sights worth a piss anymore, so I'd roll with this.

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    I have a Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4 scope mounted in a Burris PEPR QD that I'm happy with. I went with the non-illuminated reticle, and at the time I bought it (Aug '16 IIRC), Leupold had a rebate knocking another $50 off.

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    Ditto on the P-series mounts.

    I put this scope on my Ruger MPR..........the sticker helped me decide

    Actually not a bad scope for the money.

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    You can also reverse those P-series mounts.

    Only other thing I did to the rifle was put a Gunfighter extended charging handle on it so I can mo easy pull it because of the scope.
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    That is a Bushnell 4.5-18 AR 223 Drop Zone scope. Seems to work just fine and you can get them on sale (around $120) as the new line is coming out.

    https://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnel...tte-black.html
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