I have some 223 brass that buddy sent me. It has crimped primer pockets. Only thing i have on hand for removing said crimp is a primer pocket reamer.
Is it safe for me to assume that tool will work just fine ro remove the crimp? Ive tried it and it seems to be cool, but i dont want to do a couple hundred only to find out thats no bueno.
What say ye?
Originally Posted by Zee
if your reamer has a chamfer for the pocket edge, then you can use it. i used a mouth chamfer tool to do the same thing, but it takes time.
i eventually got Dillons swager tool and it does a nice job. may want to look into one since there are alot of USGI brass out there.
fyi, RCBS makes a tool/die setup to use on your press. iirc, it can be tricky tho since the swaging tool/ram can bend easily and it may or maynot work on some presses due to clearance issues. i got one for my bro and he uses it and said it worked great.
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The hand held one works fine. I have done a lot of cases with that thing, tedious as all hell but it works.
I have used the RCBS swager unit with no issues at all. It comes with a swaging plug for both small and large rifle sizes and I've used it on .308 and .223 G.I. brass. It's about $40, but I like it.
Please read the reviews on Midway.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/235...swager-combo-2
Last edited by shooter; 05-04-2012 at 01:24 PM.
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It will work, but it's really sloooooooow work on a bunch of cases. I got the Dillon tool to do that crimp removal. You can do a lot of cases in a little time with one. Has anvils for large and small primers, too.
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a word of caution, military brass may have thicker walls, resulting in a different capacity than civilian brass. This can lead to higher pressures for the same loads.
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Slow ? Maybe with the hand cranked apparatus its *supposed* to go on. I have drill, a vise, and some tape and i aint askeered to combine them into something more efficient ....
Ill doue check that. Thanms for the remknder. The good thing is that i am currently using a starting load anyway. I should be good to go.
I use a variable-speed cordless drill motor and the primer pocket reamer that came with my Lyman case trimmer. It cuts the crimp out and leaves a slight chamfer to help the primer start into the pocket. Just be careful and don't overdo the chamfer. It's pretty simple to get a routine going where I can do 10 cases a minute of so.
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I have an RCBS crimp remover you can have. I'll bring to Jerry's for the SE shoot, it's your's I don't use it!!
Bring it on up.
I'll bring my brass, send it home with you. Send it back when you're done, mmm kay?Bring it on up.
A good buddy would have run them through his crimp swager before he sent them, huh?
Yeah. But i cant complain about free. I just now started working them up.
Good thing. You better have some good loads worked up by the end of the month! I wanna see what that puppy will do!
You need some 55gr Vmaxes to try? I have a pile.
Just loaded up 50. 30 ish 55grain Vmax, and the rest 55 grain Zmax. Bass Pro had them on sale for 75 per 500. I hope they shoot as good as the regular Vmax. As I have a lot of them.I THINK they are the same profile,(hard to see with my crappy eyes) but I know the Zmax have a cannelure where the Vmax didnt.
Also, I am not using the same brass. I KNOW what the Vmax will do with 322 and Winchester brass. Hopefully these will work too. They will work good enough though, as I wont worry as much about losing brass to the fire ants.
Oh yeah. A cordless drill makes short work of crimp removal.
I have been using the Dillon equipment for a number of years and am pleased with same.
I have used this on 308, 30-06, 223, rifle brass.
I have recently used it on S&B 38spl brass. I am not sure if the brass has crimped primer pockets or simply not uniform in size. Either way after running the brass through the Dillon swagger I had had no problems with crushed or loose primers.
It is not cheap but I doubt you could wear it out in you or your children's lifetime.
That being said there are several other methods that will do the job at a lower cost.
Depends how much brass you, or perhaps a pool of shooting buddies, have to process.
Last edited by 41magnut; 05-06-2012 at 05:01 PM. Reason: spelling
The Zmax is exactly the same as the Vmax except for the color of the tip. $58/500 @ Midsouth shooters. oops!Just loaded up 50. 30 ish 55grain Vmax, and the rest 55 grain Zmax. Bass Pro had them on sale for 75 per 500. I hope they shoot as good as the regular Vmax. As I have a lot of them.
Also, I am not using the same brass. I KNOW what the Vmax will do with 322 and Winchester brass. Hopefully these will work too. They will work good enough though, as I wont worry as much about losing brass to the fire ants.
Oh yeah. A cordless drill makes short work of crimp removal.
Also, don't forget, that you can get Hornady soft point 55 gr. for $46/500 and Midsouth Varmint Nightmare soft point for $40/500.
Last edited by jwv2001; 05-06-2012 at 07:24 PM.
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The Lyman primer pocket reamer tool works fine for removing the crimp from military 5.56x45 NATO brass.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/643...mer-tool-small
The one I have is close to 20 years old and has a wood handle but I think the new ones should work just as good.
Grrrrrrrrrr. Could have saved close to 20 bucks. Oh well, they are bought and paid for. And actually got at a good price for around here. My luck is when I go to order stuff they are always out. Lesson learned, I suppose. I DID however TRY to check online prices before I bought them. But my smart phone was not so smart inside BP. BP eats cell signal.
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