Exactly, but the game wardens rightfully warn you about the legal lophole that could let one of their own cite you for "releasing an invasive species" if you capture one for training/shooting purposes, but release it in a different area. The state calls it concern about spreading West Nile and such, but it's really another opening to generate ticket revenue if an officer has the whim to help their cause.Originally Posted by Teach
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Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
Every time I hear about some of the crazy crap other people have to deal with, I'm thankful I live in Tennessee!
Jerry
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On the ballot, it clearly states' as regulated by law. the law says it is illegal to hunt or retrieve game on private property with out permission.. It doesn't get any clearer than that..".Regulated by law"
In kentucky there are a few laws that states, it is illegal to transport wild hogs for any reason. if trapped they must be killed imediatly. They don't want them spreading any more than they are...
For now that's what the law says, there's no guarantee it will always say that. That was my point in my post when I said "that at some point the legislature could pass a law forgiving trespass during hunting season".
Been around this state for a loonnng time, have seen some real shifts in the way people think and the ideals brought in by folks moving here from strange lands to the east. Our previous governors little brother is/was a severe pain in the arse when it come to landowners/private property rights, and hunting. Plenty more like him, and watching the way the legislature has been reduced to mostly town folk.....
How could that possibly happen? It doesn't even make sense. You've obviously heard the old adage that your right to free speech ends at the tip of my nose. Which means you exercising your rights can not infringe on mine.
“Not everyone is willing to embrace liberty; liberty requires not just effort, but risk. Some people choose to delude themselves and see their chains as protective armor.”
How could that happen? Simple, the same way those of us that pay the lease and maintenance on school sections lost the ability to know who enter's and when, and the same way we can no longer collect the landowner coupons for the game animals shot there.....
Anything is possible, especially considering the political ruling class's never ending feel for the need to be santa claus and buy votes....
Also take note the ammendment as passed says absolutely nothing about protecting private property rights.
...the Wyoming State Constitution is pretty specific on property rights, it was originally written that way, any changes would require a Constitutional Amendment. If you are leasing state land & have a problem call the sherriff. You might have a lease, but you need to realize this is Public Land and that same State Constitution guarantees access, it's also public wildlife why should a lease get paid for Landowner Coupons???
Apples and oranges. That is just the same as if you would lease private land. You may be leasing the hunting rights on a particular portion of my land. But that does not mean (unless otherwise stated in the lease) that I can not allow other people onto MY land. And if I do choose to break the lease it is my prerogative to do so.
“Not everyone is willing to embrace liberty; liberty requires not just effort, but risk. Some people choose to delude themselves and see their chains as protective armor.”
Gene I'm guessing you've not been a Wyoming resident long enough to know how the state leases worked prior to Mike Sullivan, Kathy Carpin and the Wyoming Wildlife Federations grab at the state leases. No they are not "public" lands as are USFS and BLM. They are trust lands which the state is supposed to manage in the best possible manner for the highest return for the school funds. Prior to Sullivan and co, buying votes from "conscerned" sportsmen the lease holder could not keep people out of the school sections if they were publically accessable, but the sportsmen were supposed to ask permission.
Look at it like this, you're leasing a house or apartment in your city dweller role, the landlord has people come in once a year for the local rodeo. So he just tells the visiting people , just pull on into Ol Gene's place and make yourself at home... After all it does belong to the landowner , no?
If we're paying the lease and maintenance on that school section , and the "publics" wildlife consumes the same grass , or crops intended for the leasse, then why shouldn't the leasee get the landowner coupon to reemburse but the pitiful pitance it does give?
Call the sheriff's office? oh you bet that works really good, they pass it off to the game and fish, and then the discussion follows about who has jurisdiction.....
I'ld really be interested if you'ld pass the link to the Wy constitution that says the school trust lands are public and guarantees access...
I came to realize that Colorado really doesn't have a "right to hunt" law since reading about how the bunny-huggers got to curtail spring black bear hunting with inaccurate but emotional advertising. Well I hope that this bites them in the A___-...literally.....just like the mountain lion's do. They want the bears and lions to be free from be controlled by hunting.....yet cry foul when they get pounced upon or their foothills chalets invaded by the wildlife. Emotion's have no place in something that's ruled by the science of nature.
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