How many receive welfare, etc. in the US..

[bruchi]

...and are all Blacks, Latinos and other minorities?

A popular opinion is that Obama won because he garnered an overwhelming amount of votes by those that want to keep their "meal ticket" going and "whites" are never included in this group, please guys I am not directing this solely at members here where it has been mentioned of course, more across the board on a much larger scale everywhere the losing side gets to voice their opinion.

Actual numbers are always best than opinion.

[Eturn]

Black-39.8%
White-38.8%
Hispanic-15.7%
Other-3.3%
Asian-2.4%

To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks!

[ThatMattGuy]

In my area and I mentioned this about my job in another thread. But I see welfare abuse mostly from white people. Lazy ones mooching off the government. This was the same experience when I worked at the pawn shop. Stupid white people who could not hang onto a dime for more then a day. They always gave me the most trouble out of any race and I am one of them!! The hispanics were always the easiest to deal with EVERY time!

[jbp-ohio]

Don't think those numbers include everyone getting a piece of the sugar pie! My niece is the single parent of one child. Her rent is 90% paid by Metro housing, she gets WIC (food stamps), free child care from HARCATUS. HARCATUS also gives out air conditioners, pays electric and heating bills, will insulate your house, put in double pane windows, and a new HE furnace....

Then she after a month or two of working for a telemarketing company and paying in a couple hundred dollars of fed tax, she gets back $4000+++....but she doesn't get 'welfare'......

The only 'welfare reform' Clinton did was giving it to the states to break into pieces and rename them

[bruchi]

Black-39.8%
White-38.8%
Hispanic-15.7%
Other-3.3%
Asian-2.4%

Thank you, that breaks down the "race" part regarding how much each ethnic group gets in aid but the real question was the number (percentage of population) that receive aid, sorry, should had left the race comment off, it confused my intention.

Then, so how much, as a whole in dollars, does this help amounts to including all, then, what percentage of the "pot" this comes to and then compares to expending in other areas, education, defense, government, etc.

Again, actual numbers illustrate the magnitude of this better than opinion.

[Eturn]

That depends entirely on what you consider welfare. If by welfare you only mean the actual welfare program. I believe it is about five percent of the budget. If you include foodstamps, medicare medicaid, social security, WIC, rent assistance, etc etc the percentage is much higher. As far as percentage of the population? Once again it depends on what you consider welfare. Between 20 and 50%. How much each "family" gets in assistance? Again that is a broad question. Some people only get a few hundred dollars a month where as others (depending on what they get and how many kids they have) can get several thousand a month. I read one story where a woman in NY with half a dozen kids was getting close to a hundred and fifty thousand a year in welfare, food stamps, crazy checks etc. To give you factual numbers we would need to know what you consider welfare. And it would take a good bit of research that you could easily do yourself. ;)

[Teach]

Back when racial profiling was much more acceptable than it is today, the term for people too lazy to work was "_ _ _ _ _ _ _ and poor white trash". It would still apply today, but the touchy-feely liberals would jump on the bandwagon to suppress that description just as quickly as they would condemn the first part of the phrase. Speaking the truth has gone WAAAAAY out of style!
Jerry

[tennmike]

Here's a site with a breakdown of the numbers, but doesn't take into account Eturn's breakdown as percent of population. It has numbers for several of the programs.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

[bruchi]

Thanks tenmike for this...

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

...more than good enough for "argument's sake".

According to the above info, about 56.6 million folks get welfare, food stamps and unemployment combined, that amounts to close to 20% of the population and there are more forms of aid going on.

How many of that 20% on aid and how many of the remaining 80% that "work" for a living voted in 2012 is an unknown number but even so, 20% with an agenda to vote one way is an amount that clearly tilts the scale and makes me think that voting apathy by the working class seems to be a huge part of the problem.

That is something that perhaps should be addressed.

[KSU Firefighter]

makes me think that voting apathy by the working class seems to be a huge part of the problem.

That is something that perhaps should be addressed.

Amen! This is exactly the problem. A little over 50% of us voted, to me that is a travesty.

[bowserb]

Last stat I saw showed 51% of adults are net taxpayers. The rest are supported by us, but they give Obama the credit!

[KSU Firefighter]

Lets have term limits for welfare and Congress!

[robert38-55]

Back when racial profiling was much more acceptable than it is today, the term for people too lazy to work was "_ _ _ _ _ _ _ and poor white trash". It would still apply today, but the touchy-feely liberals would jump on the bandwagon to suppress that description just as quickly as they would condemn the first part of the phrase. Speaking the truth has gone WAAAAAY out of style!
Jerry

Teach ya ain't just a whistling "DIXIE" there man.. If the truth was ever spoken,you just did. I heard a comment yesterday on the news I think it was someone on Fox, went something like this: 'Ovommit won because there were more "Takers", than "Makers" that voted for him. True True True. Question is what happens to all this "Takers" when the well goes dry this year or next? What they going to do? They don't know do they? We don't either.Riots I guess, food wars,etc. Who knows??????? The bottom line is it's getting more scarey than it used to be here in the USA. Well like we say in the South, You never get thristy,or miss the water until the well goes dry.

Political correctness and lies have ruined this country. Just goes to prove what I have been saying and knowning about Political Correctness all along. Talk about abuse and mis-use in the welfare and food stamp program, look at the mis-use,fraud,abuse in the Medicade and Medicare System,for heaven sake!!!!! My wife and some friends of mine, have all worked in a branch of the medical industry for pertnear,all they lives... To make a long post short here, some of the abuse, and mis-use,fraud that has been going on and continues to go on unchecked in these entitlement programs would curl your hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I understand that know one is watching this and its so far gone and out of hand I don't think it can be fixed by conventional means... I dare say, that if the fraud, abuse, and mis-use of these two programs were to somehow get stopped, the saving would be enough in its self to pay off our National debt.

[bowserb]

Amen! This is exactly the problem. A little over 50% of us voted, to me that is a travesty.

Can you help but wonder if the non-voters could have made the difference? I can't count the number of people who said to me, or even stated in some of the gun forums, that they would stay home. They didn't like Obama, but they didn't like Romney enough to vote for him. Some say they want to send a message...well they did, and the message they sent was, "We're so lazy or stupid, we'll let the liberals and welfare recipients elect a Socialist rather than vote for someone who is not perfect."

[CaliFFL]

...makes me think that voting apathy by the working class seems to be a huge part of the problem.

That is something that perhaps should be addressed.

Do not forget that the working class is a large percentage of UNION members that vote democrat. It seems they do not care where their tax dollars are spent, as long as they have the impression that gov't will help them keep their jobs.

[Eturn]

Do not forget that the working class is a large percentage of UNION members that vote democrat. It seems they do not care where their tax dollars are spent, as long as they have the impression that gov't will help them keep their jobs.

Five or ten years ago I would of agreed with you. Now a days? Not really in my experience. I just recently left a union shop to focus on our business. That shop was one of the UAW. Believe it or not the men were by and large to the right of center.

[CaliFFL]

Five or ten years ago I would of agreed with you. Now a days? Not really in my experience. I just recently left a union shop to focus on our business. That shop was one of the UAW. Believe it or not the men were by and large to the right of center.

I believe the members are right of center, but they vote for democrats because the union says so or risk losing their jobs. Take a look at Ohio. The unions are taking credit for electing Obama.

[Eturn]

I will not try to speak for every union out there. But that has not been my experience.

I used to think the same as you. I believed what the talking heads said about the unions. And then I joined one. I was very pleasantly surprised. Now, I am not going to say that there are not still issues. But those have more to do with pay differences between A rates and C rates than political affiliations. If one of the members of the bargaining committee or the president or VP tried to force people in that shop to vote a certain way they would be drawn and quartered. A lot has changed with unions in the past four or five years.

[bruchi]

Do not forget that the working class is a large percentage of UNION members that vote democrat. It seems they do not care where their tax dollars are spent, as long as they have the impression that gov't will help them keep their jobs.

Voting is done in "secret" they could hold the "democrat" banner at the union meetings and flip the tortilla on them at the polls.

[bruchi]

I'll daydream a bit, someday, soon I hope, government will wise up at some point before the working class can no longer pay their salaries and carry the "takers" too and and then will trade welfare and all aid for ACTUAL WORK.