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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffco View Post
    I hope you're able to take private roads to your private range.
    I live on a private road, and I shoot on my own property.

    The county, state, and federal roads I drive on, I've paid my share for. What's your point?
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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by breamfisher View Post
    Besides, it only takes 3 or 4 "crazies" at the range, or a few slobs, to ruin it for everyone. Get rid of the problem people and you won't have the so-called "bad project."
    You used the word "crazies", not me.

    It is your "free" range, YOU get rid of the problem.
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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFFL View Post
    You used the word "crazies", not me.

    It is your "free" range, YOU get rid of the problem.
    Ah, but I make no mistake that it's "free." And people do take steps to do alleviate the problem.
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    I understand now. Califfl has a problem paying for something he doesn't use.

    Don't we all...

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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by breamfisher View Post
    Ah, but I make no mistake that it's "free." And people do take steps to do alleviate the problem.
    I know you know where the money comes from. I assist in the funding, I want my money spent properly.
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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffco View Post
    I understand now. Califfl has a problem paying for something he doesn't use.

    Don't we all...
    No, I have a problem with wasting my tax dollars. If a range is used as a dump or full of crazies, then shut it down. Why should we continue to fund such a wasteful endeavor?

    Oh yeah, I know. Because YOU want access to the free range.
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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFFL View Post
    You HAVE paid to shoot. Everytime you buy guns or ammo, you fund the "free" range(s) you enjoy so much. Funny how you conservatives scream about other tax funded programs that you don't like, but when I point out a wasteful tax-dollar funded project that YOU enjoy, it is bullcrap.

    Your hypocrisy is showing.
    ...what you can't seem to grasp is that "outdoorsmen" supported the PR Act & were willing to pay the premium, w/ one condition, the funds collected were used as directed by law. What the Fed is gaining by sequestering those funds is a drop in the bucket against the national debt, but a significant portion of most wildlife agencies budgets.. In perspective, most of the ranges you are whining about funding get a lot less per annum than a baby mommy w/ 3 children, as far as wasted if it weren't for PR funding there are a lot of places there would be nowhere to shoot. But again, by trying to prove your point, you're missing it. A lot of state wildlife agencies aren't going to be able to meet their commitments because the Fed is sequestering monies it is mandated to pay out under an "Executive Order" w/o Congressional approval...

    ...next thing, some bright little accountant w/ figger out a dodge that will allow them to withhold your income tax refund, maybe that will give you some perspective...

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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFFL View Post
    No, I have a problem with wasting my tax dollars. If a range is used as a dump or full of crazies, then shut it down. Why should we continue to fund such a wasteful endeavor?

    Oh yeah, I know. Because YOU want access to the free range.
    2 things...
    1. There's really not a lot of money spent on these ranges, in my experience. So it's not a lot of money going to upkeep. Really, not a lot. A guy comes out once a week to dump trash, and maybe it gets an annual painting.
    2. It's not free, we know that. However, we are paying for a service with our tax dollars, so shouldn't we expect to get what we pay for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliFFL View Post
    No, I have a problem with wasting my tax dollars. If a range is used as a dump or full of crazies, then shut it down. Why should we continue to fund such a wasteful endeavor?

    Oh yeah, I know. Because YOU want access to the free range.
    You don't use free ranges... So how is it that you know that they are dumps?

    It's certainly not the case in the two ranges I use.

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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffco View Post
    You don't use free ranges... So how is it that you know that they are dumps?

    It's certainly not the case in the two ranges I use.
    The WMA range I used near Glennville GA was OK when I was working on Fort Stewart. Not state of the art, but just a place to shoot and it was free.

    A few years ago the Dems stole/raided a surplus of money from the FLA State CCW fund processing and issuing department. They were backlogged big time for a while. It had a several million dollar surplus to issue/investigate CCW permits. I fergit the exact circumstances, but a piece of legislation was agreed to so another would pass in the state which gave the thieves access.

    So nothing new about politicians raiding $$ set aside for something else is there? Look at Social Security, where they raided the "Lock-box" and now they say it can't pay for itself in the years to come. If they would have left it alone it could have, but they spent the money. The real reason it needs help isn't because of Baby Boomers all retiring close to the same time, that could be handled easily enough.

    Politicians like to spend other peoples money and don't care of the consequences and who will pay for it in future years..us the taxpayers.
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    I'd never heard of the Pittman-Robertson act until this thread. Reading up on it, I've gotta say, this is one tax I don't mind paying.

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    Re: Pittman Robinson funds- stolen from another MB

    Quote Originally Posted by wildgene View Post
    ...PR funds can't be used for anything but PR expenditures, that's the law. They're playing a silly little game, withholding the funds to get a little interest & some soundbites about how they're saving money. Those funds aren't paying off anything, in the meantime states that have budgeted the expected funds are going to "shortfall...
    The fact that its against the law means exactly what to the dirtbags in DC?

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