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CHICAGO (Reuters) - A prominent U.S. gun control group on Wednesday sued a gun auction website it says is linked to a mass shooting at a Wisconsin spa in October and the stalker slaying of a woman near Chicago in 2011.

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence alleges that the design of armslist.com facilitates illegal online sales to unlawful gun buyers with no background checks, and enables users to evade laws that permit private sellers to sell guns only to residents of their own state.

"We as a nation are better than an anonymous Internet gun market where killers and criminals can easily get guns," said Jonathan Lowy, the Brady Center's Legal Action Project Director, in a statement.

The wrongful death lawsuit was filed in Cook County Circuit Court on behalf of the family of Jitka Vesel, 36, an immigrant from the Czech Republic who was shot and killed last year by Demetry Smirnov, a stalker.

The suit, which the Brady Center says is the first of its kind, alleges that Smirnov illegally bought the gun from a private seller he located through armslist.com.

Vesel was killed in the parking lot of the Chicago-area Czechoslovak Heritage Museum, where she was a volunteer preparing for a celebration in memory of Czech-American Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak.

Cermak was slain with a handgun during an attempted assassination of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933.

A representative for website owner Armslist, LLC was not immediately available for comment. The company is based in Noble, Oklahoma, according to public records.

The website includes a "terms of use" page on which users must promise they are age 18 or older and will not use the site for illegal purposes.

The Brady Center said that the case does not infringe on the Second Amendment right to bear arms, noting that 74 percent of National Rifle Association members believe that no guns should be sold without a criminal background check.

A representative for the NRA was not immediately available for comment.

Radcliffe Haughton, who killed his estranged wife and two other women and wounded four others before killing himself in a shooting in a Milwaukee suburb on October 21, also got his weapon through armslist.com, according to Wisconsin officials.

Haughton, who was under a restraining order for domestic violence, avoided a background check through a "lethal loophole" by buying a gun through the website, according to a letter to Armslist sent by Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett and Wisconsin U.S. Representative Gwen Moore on October 26.

Sales conducted over the Internet also have been linked to mass killings at Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois University. In 1999 eBay announced it was prohibiting online gun sales, according to the Brady Center lawsuit.

Craigslist did the same in 2007. Amazon.com and Google AdWords also prohibits the listing of firearms for sale, the suit says.

An undercover investigation of online gun sales by New York City last year found that 62 percent of private gun sellers agreed to sell a firearm to a buyer who said he probably could not pass a background check.

(Reporting By Mary Wisniewski; Editing by Greg McCune and Xavier Briand)
Barry

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,453 Senior Member
    That 'news article', and I use the term 'news article' in the loosest terms possible, is full of lies. But expecting the anti gun organizations to tell the truth is like expecting carnivores to go vegan.
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    ― Douglas Adams
  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Senior Member Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    Barryd wrote: »
    The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence alleges that the design of armslist.com facilitates illegal online sales to unlawful gun buyers with no background checks, and enables users to evade laws that permit private sellers to sell guns only to residents of their own state.


    The Brady Center said that the case does not infringe on the Second Amendment right to bear arms, noting that 74 percent of National Rifle Association members believe that no guns should be sold without a criminal background check.

    A representative for the NRA was not immediately available for comment.

    (Reporting By Mary Wisniewski; Editing by Greg McCune and Xavier Briand)

    When the Brady Center for Gun Violence can actually and factually quote a law....then they might have a slight bit of creedance....until then....they are nothing but of tool for propaganda. Private sale is within the law...get over it! Should I have to go through an automobile dealership to sell a car? They are tools of more damage and death than firearms are. Like the common statistic.....more people die in DUI related deaths every year than in ten years of the Vietnam war......let's ban cars!

    74% of NRA members don't have a problem with filling out Form 4473, they are responsible, learned, and law abiding citizens of the United States and Territories. Selling a handgun to my neighbor across the street is akin to selling him a machete.....if good character presents itself....it shouldn't be a problem.....however I may be prudent in using a firearm's retailer's services of conducting an NCIS check if I was prudent enough to cover my butt for legality's sake.

    NRA staff is always available.....your voicemail got ignored because you're a Dumb-butt and too lazy to keep trying to get ahold of someone....a low-paid staffer made a contact attempt.

    Mary needs a course in investigative journalism, and not the liberal arts degree she got a job with.
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,814 Senior Member
    Maybe someone should explain to the Brady Bunch how the FFL system works.
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,462 Senior Member
    Don't confuse liberals with logic. Their heads may explode...
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
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  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Senior Member Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    If that's the case, how can I project logic and make it happen!? :tooth:
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • avmechavmech Senior Member Posts: 856 Senior Member
    Don't confuse liberals with logic. Their heads may explode...

    Don't confuse them with facts either.....
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  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Senior Member Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    So if we put logic in one ear, and facts in the other......do their heads implode or explode? I mean....the sudden infusion of Reason might cause enough anal pucker vacuum effect to overcome the one between their ears and you might see their head get sucked down into their neck....just wonderin'....
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    Okay, I'll buy that if you also sue every car dealership that sells a car "buy here, pay here" style to an unlicensed driver who kills someone in a DUI crash.

    Circular logic. Democrat status quo, I'm afraid.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
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