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Do American guns kill Mexicans?
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Tighter Gun Laws in Mexico?
‘Ironically for a country awash with hundreds of thousands of illegal firearms, Mexico has some of the most stringent gun laws in Latin America.’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20825061
:yikes:
It is all down ‘clips’ not guns.
Senator Arturo Zamora of the ruling PRI party introduced the measure to parliament saying;
‘This latest piece of legislation was aimed at stemming the flow of magazines for automatic weapons into the country by closing a longstanding legal loophole.
These magazines pose a threat to society. They are not being brought into country with the aim of protecting people but rather to be used in crimes such as extortion, kidnapping and murder.’
‘Last year a US Senate report, submitted by the Democratic senator leading the push for greater gun control, Dianne Feinstein, said as many as 70% of the guns in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels came from the US.
Two years earlier, the number cited had been even higher, at about 90%.’
"The single biggest supplier of firearms to the Mexican criminals is the US government through our sales to the military and the police," argues Robert Farago of the pro-gun online magazine The Truth about Guns.
Those firearms are "fully-automatic assault rifles", says Mr Farago, which "then seep to the cartels. They also have weapons coming in from China and Eastern Europe."
'One particular episode involving US weapons in Mexico has created more tension between the two countries over the issue than any other.'
'Fast and Furious" weapons have turned up in violent crime scenes across Mexico.
For pro-gun commentator Robert Farago, Fast and Furious is an example of where the problem lies.'
[/QUOTE]‘Last year a US Senate report, submitted by the Democratic senator leading the push for greater gun control, Dianne Feinstein, said as many as 70% of the guns in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels came from the US. Government[/QUOTE]
Fixed it for her.:jester:
‘Ironically for a country awash with hundreds of thousands of illegal firearms, Mexico has some of the most stringent gun laws in Latin America.’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20825061
:yikes:
It is all down ‘clips’ not guns.
Senator Arturo Zamora of the ruling PRI party introduced the measure to parliament saying;
‘This latest piece of legislation was aimed at stemming the flow of magazines for automatic weapons into the country by closing a longstanding legal loophole.
These magazines pose a threat to society. They are not being brought into country with the aim of protecting people but rather to be used in crimes such as extortion, kidnapping and murder.’
‘Last year a US Senate report, submitted by the Democratic senator leading the push for greater gun control, Dianne Feinstein, said as many as 70% of the guns in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels came from the US.
Two years earlier, the number cited had been even higher, at about 90%.’
"The single biggest supplier of firearms to the Mexican criminals is the US government through our sales to the military and the police," argues Robert Farago of the pro-gun online magazine The Truth about Guns.
Those firearms are "fully-automatic assault rifles", says Mr Farago, which "then seep to the cartels. They also have weapons coming in from China and Eastern Europe."
'One particular episode involving US weapons in Mexico has created more tension between the two countries over the issue than any other.'
'Fast and Furious" weapons have turned up in violent crime scenes across Mexico.
For pro-gun commentator Robert Farago, Fast and Furious is an example of where the problem lies.'
[/QUOTE]‘Last year a US Senate report, submitted by the Democratic senator leading the push for greater gun control, Dianne Feinstein, said as many as 70% of the guns in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels came from the US. Government[/QUOTE]
Fixed it for her.:jester:
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More and more I am beginning to think that there is a limit to size and mobility and population density beyond which it is impossible to maintain integrity and control of government.
Perhaps anything larger than a state requires nothing more than a loose coalition for the common defense as necessary in order to avoid the sort of corruption that we are experiencing at the federal level.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
A basic law in wildlife management looks at population densities of a species of wildlife on a given area of land. Land, wheather it's one acre or a square mile or more, has the capacity to support a given number individuals of a specific species, and this is referred to as the land's "Carrying Capacity". Once the carrying capacity is exceeded, something is going to happen to reduce the population back to the natural desired number that the site (land) can support. An example:
At the present time the black bear population here in north Florida is expanding rapidly, and has reached the maximum density that the land will support in certain areas. So....what's happening? The bears are expanding northward and westward to fill areas where the population is below the carrying capacity of the land. Same principal of what happened in the Colonies and later USA with the human population expanding South and West to fill vast areas nearly void of human populations. On the other hand, small rodents such as field mice and field rats cannot expand great distances like larger animals. So....what happens? They go to war, so to speak, and kill each other off until the population drops to, or below, the carrying capacity! (Or the coyote population expands to help take care of the situation!)
I think that humans react in the same way, though it is much more complicated with us. It is physically possible for a large city to have a "carrying capacity" capable of taking care of the physical needs and feeding thousands of people per square mile, but when the population reaches these levels people become nervous and edgy and will react accordingly. And, the coyote (criminal) population will also expand to "feed" on the weaker members of the population. To those of us who mess around with managing wildlife, a population that exceeds the carrying capacity of the area is a very precarious thing! Something is going to happen to reduce the numbers! I think the same principal applies to us humans, too. I may be wrong....I was once, and my first wife will give you a dissertation on it :yikes:
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Legally yes but it is incredibly easy to get one illegally, same deal applies to the Dominican Republic.
Correct.:up:
Incorrect, Americans who take drugs kill themselves.
I see, sorry.
Recoil is how you know primer ignition is complete.
Point taken, but consider this. Mexican meddling in the drug trade has created illicit product that is more dangerous. Their "cutting" the cocaine coming from South America and heroin from SE and SW Asia creates a dangerous substance in the name of product expansion and ensuing profit. 90% of marijuana and crystal meth is actually home-grown, and of much better quality.
Even with "prescription drugs"....sure you can find Canadian or Mexican Viagra, or heart pills, or whatever...that is not subject to FDA regulation and is therefore a "chancy risk" for a cheaper cost.
Now, back to the point.....show me a firearm producing plant in Mexico. I've only found Mendoza and Obregon.....neither which produce the AK-47 or M-16 rifles used in the majority of killings by cartel members......THOSE weapons got pilfered from the government and police forces that were supplied by US or the "other guys" initially.
More and more "fast and furious" guns are turning up now. So you can tell all your Mexican friends that they voted for the guy that gave the cartels the guns that killed their grandmother back home.
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Ephesians 2:8-9
This is true to a point. It needs to be decriminalized on a Federal level so that interstate transportation is allowed.
An ounce of MJ in CO: http://www.priceofweed.com/
According to 5280 magazine, this is half the price of what you will find in St. Louis MO. Supply and demand economics.
Until then, there will always be a black market. It is Kentucky's number one cash crop, and that kinda skews the numbers you see on that website.
Colorado already has more marijuana dispensaries than Starbucks coffee shops.....now drive around and notice just how prolific Starbucks is.....yeah, that's a lot of weed getting sold legally, but it's not like everyone is walking around stoned.....so spare the jokes. What ain't a joke is the millions in tax revenue it's brought in.
You do understand that it really costs much more to buy an illegal select fire AR or Ak than it does to legally buy a semi auto AR or AK don't you?
You also have to understand that US prices are not reflected down south. A $10,000 M-16 only costs about $400 if it came from Nicaragua.....same for an AK-74 from Cuba.....and when you have thousands of dollars in disposable income and buy in bulk......it's not hard to get armed with a few true assault rifles.
Which brings to light another point.....The US Army pays about $400 for an M-16......yet the semi-auto AR-15 version we can buy cost anywhere from $800-1400.
...people respond just like rats, too many rats in a cage, violence ensues...
Jerry