Firefighters ambushed, 4 shot and 2 killed

SirGeorgeKillian

This is a sad story. Apparently the gunman killed his grandmother with a hammer in 1980. My blood is boiling right now. This sick set fire to a house, and waited. Here is the radio traffic, and I have got to say, it makes my vision very blurry. May those brave men rest in peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7VXwnyAvp8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I will say this, at my job, it's against federal law to have a firearm, but at my volunteer dept, my ccw fits well inside my gear.... I've had to defend myself after the scene was deemed safe by LE, and fighting off a meth head with a halligan isn't fun. Here is an idea, how about instead of going after the guns, we hold the people who allow someone like this to walk free accountable? Here is the story
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/24/webster-new-york-firefighter-shot/1788917/

5280 shooter II

I saw this about 12 hrs ago when I got up.....and thought of you. It's still making me sick to my stomach. It also made me think of the movie American History X......makes me more of a proponent for the death penalty.

LMLarsen

When I was a young tick, part of our first due was in the worst part of town. There were several occasions on which we would have to call for LE support before we could go in, and we were more than happy to sit in the wagon and watch stuff burn until they arrived.

Some sick people just saw us as an extension of The Man and got their kicks by throwing whatever at us when we arrived. Never got shot at, but growing up on the South Side did influence my choice of hobbies...

SirGeorgeKillian

If I had a dollar for every time someone thought I was the po po. It's like, do you see the big red freaking truck?

tennmike

That's sad beyond belief. The 'justice system' failed in 1980 when it didn't put him away for life +99 years when he pleaded guilty to manslaughter to prevent a trial on murder charges.

CaliFFL

SirGeorgeKillian wrote: »

If I had a dollar for every time someone thought I was the po po. It's like, do you see the big red freaking truck?

I lived in North Long Beach (think South Compton) during the Rodney King riots. The cretins shot at the fire fighters so much they stopped responding. Then they complained that the neighborhood had burned down.

Teach

In some neighborhoods, that big water monitor on top of the fire engine needs to be supplemented with a Ma Deuce! The idiot who perpetrated this attack should have been given a 10-minute ride on Old Sparky the first time.
Jerry

Slanteyedshootist

:angel2:

I hope that freaking bastige is burning in Hell right now and nobody puts out the fire.

KSU Firefighter

Prayers for my brother firefighters and their families. Too bad the rotten scumbag didn't set himself on fire.

Nomadac

He set his sister's house on fire to lure the fighters so he could ambush them. So far his sister is unaccountable, probably in the burned out house.

knitepoet

Had a local case yesterday
http://www.abc3340.com/story/20436989/man-arrested-for-shooting-at-firefighters
Luckily fireman wasn't hit

KSU Firefighter

Really more common than any of us want to admit. Puts in perspective the comment from one of the Chiefs of my department, " We do not go into dangerous situations." (IE armed and dangerous "customers") Wish I could figure out what he has been smoking, must be some real good stuff.

Teach

I was in electronics school in 1968 with a former Detroit resident who bragged about his neighbors shooting at anyone in a uniform, police or fireman, during the riots a year earlier. Those scumbags burned down huge parts of the city, in riots that took 5 days to pacify. Several other cities got the same treatment in the following few years. I never could understand the logic in destroying one's home neighborhood as some sort of "protest"! They seldom got rebuilt. The Watts area of Los Angeles looked like a bombed-out war zone for years after the dummies burned it down!
Jerry

KSU Firefighter

One area North of us used to have problems every Halloween, fires would be set, and once the first responders showed up, they would drop trees behind and in front of the vehicles and then shoot the light bars off.

coolgunguy

Neighbor lady of the shooter has been arrested...

http://hsrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aii7cpA0wlyILjRCDZWEnAebvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTVlOHZoaGd0BGEDV29tYW4gY2hhcmdlZCBpbiBOZXcgWW9yayBmaXJlZmlnaHRlciBzbGF5aW5ncwRjY29kZQNwemJ1YWxsY2FoNQRjcG9zAzUEZwNpZC0yOTQzNjQ2BGludGwDdXMEbWNvZGUDcHpidWFsbGNhaDUEbXBvcwMyBHBrZ3QDMgRwb3MDMQRzZWMDdGQtbndzBHNsawN0aXRsZQR0ZXN0AzcwMQR3b2UDMjM2MjMxMg--/SIG=130rj95c5/EXP=1356878814/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/woman-charged-york-firefighter-slayings-081801852.html

I'm guessing with all the media hoopla over the type of firearm and hype over straw purchases, this won't go well for her...nor should it, if the story is true.

LMLarsen

Teach wrote: »

In some neighborhoods, that big water monitor on top of the fire engine needs to be supplemented with a Ma Deuce! The idiot who perpetrated this attack should have been given a 10-minute ride on Old Sparky the first time.
Jerry

I once suggested to my Captain that we use the monitor to 'discourage' the clowns throwing stuff at us; on the record he told me that would be irresponsible and reflect poorly on the Company, but off the record he loved the idea and wished we could do it!

LMLarsen

Teach wrote: »

I was in electronics school in 1968 with a former Detroit resident who bragged about his neighbors shooting at anyone in a uniform, police or fireman, during the riots a year earlier. Those scumbags burned down huge parts of the city, in riots that took 5 days to pacify. Several other cities got the same treatment in the following few years. I never could understand the logic in destroying one's home neighborhood as some sort of "protest"! They seldom got rebuilt. The Watts area of Los Angeles looked like a bombed-out war zone for years after the dummies burned it down!
Jerry

Same with DC. Dad was posted to the Navy Dept in '68, and we arrived just in time to see the riots after Dr King's murder. Most of Southeast DC and parts of Arlington, VA burned, and much of it stayed burnt out for years.

Teach

In 1972 when we were in the process of giving Okinawa back to Japan, the civilian employees of the Base Exchange, the Commissary, and the chow halls went on strike over the salary conversion rate from Dollars to Yen. The base commander pulled a Ronald Reagan and fired all of them, and hired US dependents to fill the available jobs. That sparked riots, including huge crowds trying to block the vehicle access lanes to the base gates. The commander called out the base firefighters, and helped them man a 2" hose to clear the way. Problem solved!
Jerry

KSU Firefighter

Teach wrote: »

In 1972 when we were in the process of giving Okinawa back to Japan, the civilian employees of the Base Exchange, the Commissary, and the chow halls went on strike over the salary conversion rate from Dollars to Yen. The base commander pulled a Ronald Reagan and fired all of them, and hired US dependents to fill the available jobs. That sparked riots, including huge crowds trying to block the vehicle access lanes to the base gates. The commander called out the base firefighters, and helped them man a 2" hose to clear the way. Problem solved!
Jerry

That'll leave a mark!:tooth: