"Americans" TV Show

sherwood

I see where there is to be a new TV show about some Russian KGB agents in the USA. From what I read the show writers want the viewers to feel sorry for the agents. As one who has spent over 40 years working against these SPIES I feel disgusted about the premise of this show. How say you? I know the Boss and I will not be watching it.

Fat Billy

Sherwood, please watch because we need someone who knows the difference between bee feces and honey to critique the show. I'm going to watch just to see what's up but a knowledgeable input would be great. :popcorn: Later,

centermass556

You know Sherwood, when some of the 20 - 25 year statements you guys signed expire, you need to write books. I know a couple intercept guys that worked the Pacific in the early 80's...I am telling them to put some pen to paper. There is a lot that went on in the supposedly "cold" war that America has no clue about...

Vic's Viewpoint

centermass556 wrote: »

You know Sherwood, when some of the 20 - 25 year statements you guys signed expire, you need to write books. I know a couple intercept guys that worked the Pacific in the early 80's...I am telling them to put some pen to paper. There is a lot that went on in the supposedly "cold" war that America has no clue about...

Amen to all the above posts! Unless the show is some sort of back-handed comedy, the subject matter seems absolutely perverse and perverted. I do want to know more.

sherwood

Fat Billy wrote: »

Sherwood, please watch because we need someone who knows the difference between bee feces and honey to critique the show. I'm going to watch just to see what's up but a knowledgeable input would be great. :popcorn: Later,

Nope! Ain't happening. People who watch that kind of crap have no memory of the cold war and the effects it had on America.

bisley

During my 'reading years,' I read all the Cold War novels. I've always wondered if any of them came close to giving an accurate depiction of what really went on. Obviously, the heroes were usually way too good to be authentic, but I have always wondered about the tradecraft and agent-flipping techniques.

Fat Billy

I remember the Cold War but wasn't into spy craft at the time. So far the best thing about the show is the 78 Olds. Haven't hit record series yet on DVR. :uhm: Later,

Big Al1

I understand your aversion to watching something like this, since you are appartently envolved in protecting us from such activities. I watched it last night, solely as entertainment, it was well written and acted, and I enjoyed and will watch it again. It would be interesting to get a review from someone like you who actually LIVED it and get a critique on the historical correctness, or whether it is just hollywood fluff. I like the FX series, like SOA and Justified, it's so much better then the reruns for all the CSINCISSVU , ect. drivil.

bullsi1911

centermass556 wrote: »

You know Sherwood, when some of the 20 - 25 year statements you guys signed expire, you need to write books. I know a couple intercept guys that worked the Pacific in the early 80's...I am telling them to put some pen to paper. There is a lot that went on in the supposedly "cold" war that America has no clue about...

Yeah, I wish my father in law had been able to talk about some of the stuff he did back in those days. Now that he has passed, no one will ever know what happened. He made some oblique comments about it over the years.

1965Jeff

A few years ago I read an account of a similar "family" placed in the USA by way of Canada by the KGB. I wonder if the series will follow the same story line as the book, whose title I can't remember right now. I watched the show and didn't get the feeling I was supposed to feel sorry for the poor russkies sent to spy on the USA.

centermass556

on another note...I can understand Sherwood's aversion to this. Everytime I see a new Iraqi war movie or Afghan war movie trailor, I get the urge to kick the TV....

Make_My_Day

Who the hell needs to worry about Russian spies when the U.S. government is packed with communist traitors already? We're being slowly destroyed from within!

Jayhawker

Make_My_Day wrote: »

Who the hell needs to worry about Russian spies when the U.S. government is packed with communist traitors already? We're being slowly destroyed from within!

Now we know where all those sleeper agents kids ended up....

Eli

centermass556 wrote: »

on another note...I can understand Sherwood's aversion to this. Everytime I see a new Iraqi war movie or Afghan war movie trailor, I get the urge to kick the TV....

Except for that documentary The Hurt Locker.....very good info in that one.

:tooth:

bisley

I watched it last night. My wife had recorded it, thinking I might like it. As a fictional 'story' targeted at an audience that is mostly ignorant about the Cold War, it is possible to enjoy it, provided you regard it as you would one of those 'alternative history' stories. It has an interesting story line, and is well-acted and written. I'm capable of enjoying a book or movie that is well done, knowing that it is total fantasy, although I don't want a steady diet of them.

But, I can't really approve of a TV series that tries that hard to humanize the KGB, because it gives too many people false notions about that part of our history. It uses attractive, likeable characters to portray some of the most deadly enemies to freedom this country has ever had. It gives a perfunctory view of how the KGB turned it's agents into sociopaths, but then humanizes them by making them good parents.

I'll probably watch it, occasionally, just so I can point out whatever blatant falsehoods I can spot to anybody that seems to be taking it to heart.

Make_My_Day

There seems to be a huge effort on the part of the left-wing media to portray former and present enemies of the United States as now being the "good guys" even if it is in the weakest way. They call Muslim terrorists "freedom fighters," so why not take a second look at commies and KGB agents?

bruchi

Great? Not so when compared to "Justified", another FX show but still watchable.

So they live in suburbia? That is their cover, they have no issues using sex, violence and getting their hands quite dirty to meet their ends and then go home to their kids who are in for a very rude awakening by being uninvited participating pawns to their trade, I don't find characters such as this likable at all. They also paint some Russians as very low humans.


SPOILER...The perhaps likable part is the seed of hope they plant for them to "see the light" and become full Americans as half of the team already leans in that direction but seems that ship already sailed...

Fat Billy

The pair in the show would be more believeable if both had one eyebrow and wore black socks with shorts. Sill like the Oldsmobile. :up: Later,

bisley

Why does this not surprise me?

CHIRO1989

alphasigmookie wrote: »

I should add that my hockey team's name is "The Ivan Dragos"...

Why this name?

breamfisher

Also gives you a chance to say, "If he dies, he dies..." when you skate past a fallen opponent.

sherwood

alphasigmookie wrote: »

I should add that my hockey team's name is "The Ivan Dragos"...

Why am I not surprised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1965Jeff

Finally watched the whole show, not as good as Justified and find it hard to believe that a spy picked for penetrating the USA would quit so fast and flip to the evil USA just for $$$ but the show is a spy related soap opera. Also found the guy searching out the mall perv not likely as you want to keep as low a profile as possible.I will give it one more try and see what developes...

CHIRO1989

alphasigmookie wrote: »

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I was familiar with the reference, I am just not linking it to hockey....