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How not to handle road rage
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Truck cuts off SUV, SUV driver follows truck home.
Gets out and takes a poke at the truck driver, gets his clock
cleaned by the truck occupants.
SUV driver's wife stops fight with gun, SUV driver takes
gun and runs off the others.
SUV drives away, then returns in a few minutes and shoots up
truck.
Result is multiple gun use charges for both adults in SUV.
http://www.wcti12.com/news/Deputies-looking-for-couple-accused-of-road-rage/-/13530444/19448750/-/crv6mr/-/index.html
This is a classic no, no that is taught in CCW classes;
if you start a fist fight you cannot pull a gun because you are
losing.
It appears the two had started backing away from the fight
even before they knew the woman had the gun.
One thing not in the link is that a neighbors house got shot
when the truck was being shot up.
video is reported to be cell phone.
Gets out and takes a poke at the truck driver, gets his clock
cleaned by the truck occupants.
SUV driver's wife stops fight with gun, SUV driver takes
gun and runs off the others.
SUV drives away, then returns in a few minutes and shoots up
truck.
Result is multiple gun use charges for both adults in SUV.
http://www.wcti12.com/news/Deputies-looking-for-couple-accused-of-road-rage/-/13530444/19448750/-/crv6mr/-/index.html
This is a classic no, no that is taught in CCW classes;
if you start a fist fight you cannot pull a gun because you are
losing.
It appears the two had started backing away from the fight
even before they knew the woman had the gun.
One thing not in the link is that a neighbors house got shot
when the truck was being shot up.
video is reported to be cell phone.
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I don't think so. Douche was the aggressor and threw the first punch....
The person who throws the first punch, especially one with a firearm, is always at fault for escalation. Never mind the fact that he actually followed the other person for 1/2 hour AND threw the first punch.
Al
First, Mr. Roadrage probably should go away for a while. Mrs. Roadrage needs to find a better class of man. Those two kids need to learn to throw a punch. Folks all over need to remember to dial 911 or non emergency numbers BEFORE the shooting starts, rather than trying to get video they can sell to newsies or post on 'Facetube'.
Had Mr. Roadrage called the cops when cut off, he could have reported tag numbers and gone about his business confident in the knowledge that something that he (maybe) got something done to right the wrong that he had suffered. (sarcasm definitely intended)
Had the kids used their phone to call police rather than record the idiot, this might never have been more than a blurd in the local deadtree..."Man cited for following teens".
As it is, we're lucky we're not reading about another multiple injury/death shooting.
George Carlin
Rule 2: See rule 1.
Somebody with road rage following you; make a 911 call and let the cops handle it. Don't drive home with them on your tail; that was stupid, too.
― Douglas Adams
I knew I was making a right turn, so I hit my blinker early. He was still up my butt, so I waited until the last second and brake checked the eff out of him... He didn't hit me, but I'm sure he pooped his pants....
Recoil is how you know primer ignition is complete.
Maybe something like this would help:
Al
Is my CC class, the instructor said when the "odds of you suffering severe bodily harm or death are LIKELY, you can produce the weapon". So, in this case, she was fine. He was a ing **** but he got an whippin.
Did he also tell you that you can't put yourself into that situation so you can pull your weapon out? Many states have laws against escalation, specifically the duty to retreat. Moreover, the juries aren't so forgiving when you are the one who started it and you're the only one who is armed.
Al
I disagree. Her husband was in the process of committing a felonious assault on someone. To me, at that point, no self defense argument is valid. What if he'd pulled up to a bank, walked in, and gave the teller a note demanding money. She pushes the panic button, and the security guard pulls out his gun. Is the wife justified in acting in his defense now? Or would she be considered an accessory/partner to the crime?
Yes, I figured in this case was different than a normal situation. He was wrong all the way around.
dropped.
Both of the young guys have casts on for bones they broke
on the shooter's face I would guess.
If her actions stopped there, I might agree. Instead, she handed him the gun with which he proceeded to further threaten/assault the two boys. Not to mention, they left and they BOTH came back to do further damage. I know she wasn't on the trigger herself, but I think she's an accessory.
George Carlin
convicted he could get 4 years.
That be grounds for the Sheriff to come get your CCW.
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Of course you did.
P.S. As my chl instructor told the class, he was a Lt. with the local police force, don't get in trouble when someone is trying to hurt you! Your life is far to important to spend it in jail or spend your money on legal fees. Call me! I've got a brand new taser! I'm just dying to try it out!
"You believe there is one God, that is good, even the demons believe and shudder in fear" James 2:19
That's one way of thinking about it. The flip side is the kid wins because he/she doesn't go home with an overly aggressive dad or an enabling mom.
George Carlin
They payback comes when you pass them a couple of miles up the road in the ditch or spreadeagled on the side of a cop car....doesn't happen often but it's sure fun when it does....
It is fun and only once have I ever got a really good payback-
Once while pulling up to an intersection I eased behind the pickup in front of me. As soon as I stopped he eased ahead a bit, so, with out thinking, I instinctively eased ahead also. For whatever reason this really P.Od the guy and he's doing this jerky ahead-stop-ahead-stop routine as I'm just sitting there listening to the radio. Soon the light for a left turn goes on and the guy who's first out just sits there giving me the bird and other nonsense. After about 7 seconds the light goes yellow and then red and THEN he decides to make his left turn. He figures he's gonna get his payback by making me wait for the next light cycle which I of course oblige. Whatever, no skin off my back. Anyway what this moron didn't notice was the motorcycle cop sitting in a 7-11 parking lot on our right side who was watching the whole episode. The guy runs the red and the cop speeds out with lights flashing. Soon, I get my left turn light and off I go. As I pass this guy who's now pulled over I make brief eye contact with the cop who grins back and gives me a thumbs up. SWEET JUSTICE!!----Figured I share that with ya.
On the interstate if I'm being tailgated, I just ease up on the throttle slowly. They have the option of tailgating at a speed reduced to minimum speed, or passing. They normally do the latter.
I will NOT follow a vehicle with someone yapping on their cell phone; they tend to be all over the road and speeding up and slowing down erratically. An accident waiting to happen. I pass them as soon as I'm able to safely do so.
Funniest recent tailgating incident I had was a Honda Civic riding my bumper on a state road I take to go to town. Guy would NOT get off my bumper no way, no how. I topped a hill and there was a very freshly killed deer carcass in the middle of the lane. I knew my truck had enough clearance to miss it by driving over it, and I did. The Honda was not so lucky. :tooth:
― Douglas Adams
That was too funny. Was it one of those lowered imports that kids like to race around in?