N.J. governor pusing for stricter gun control measures.

JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior MemberPosts: 6,486 Senior Member
Some good, some not good. The ban on 50 caliber Barrett makes absolutely no sense.



http://nj1015.com/chris-christie-unveils-sweeping-gun-control-plans/

Share on facebook! Share on twitter! Gov. Chris Christie unveiled gun control and violence prevention measures that are as comprehensive as they are ambitious.

Governor Chris Christie announces a plan to strengthen existing gun laws and background checks, bolster criminal penalties and treat the root causes of mass violence. (Governor’s Office/Tim Larsen)
Christie acknowledges there is no way to prevent all violence in our society, but he says it is the job of government to question, to scrutinize and to demand more in an attempt to address the problem.

The plan calls for expanding New Jersey’s already strict gun control laws, expanding government-funded mental health treatment, making it more difficult for kids buy or rent violent video games, requiring that would-be gun owners show government-issued IDs and bolstering penalties for gun-related crimes.

“It’s hard for me to sit here today and say, ‘If all these things got imposed we’d see an ‘X’ percentage drop in gin violence in this state.’ I don’t know,” said Christie. “Bad people are going to do bad things and so, would greater penalties deter people? You hope they do.”

Expanding New Jersey’s Already Stringent Gun Control Measures:
New Jersey has the second toughest gun laws in the country. The first facet of Christie’s plan seeks to make them even stricter. This includes banning future purchases of the Barrett .50 Caliber; strengthening the state’s existing background check requirement by mandating that mental health records are included in the instant background check process at the time of a firearm purchase; and requiring firearms purchasers to present a valid government photo ID, along with the already mandatory Firearms Purchaser Identification Card.

Mental Health And Violence:
At the announcement of Christie’s NJ SAFE Taskforce in January in the aftermath of Newtown, he talked about targeting and treating the root causes of violence. Too many times there are instances of unspeakable tragedy and the question is asked how such tragedy could have been prevented. His proposals is this area include;

•Making it easier for health professionals and courts to require potentially dangerous people to receive the treatment they need whether it is in the form of inpatient or outpatient care. This will allow the monitoring of their progress and ensure they are receiving the kind of specific care they need.
•Creating flexibility in the type of care an individual is receiving, making it easier for someone to move from inpatient to outpatient settings.
•Changing the current standard of involuntary outpatient treatment to eliminate the uncertainty expressed by clinicians and courts regarding their authority to order this type of essential assistance.
Limiting Kids’ Access To Violent Video Games:
According to the Governor, too often lost in the debate about controlling gun violence in our society is the almost constant exposure young children and adults have to graphic violence. Part-three of his plan includes;

•Requiring that retailers post at the point of sale the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ERSB) ratings. Additionally, requiring retailers to develop, maintain and conspicuously display their policy on selling video games with an M or AO rating.
•Requiring Consent of a Legal Guardian. This is not different than the kind of parental supervision expected when a child under the age of 18 goes to see an R rated movie, Christie is requiring that a legal guardian provide consent when a minor purchases or rents a video game that has a rating of “Mature” or “Adult Only.”
Increasing Penalties For Gun-Related Crimes:
In a series of bills Christie seeks to impose or strengthen criminal penalties when it comes to selling firearms to convicted criminals, possessing a firearm with the intent to unlawfully transfer, hiring a “straw purchaser,” unlawfully possessing ammunition and engaging in firearms trafficking, among other areas. In addition, Governor Christie is seeking to reform bail laws for gun-related crimes by restricting the release on bail for aggravated firearms offenses and increasing bail requirements for aggravated firearms crimes
Jerry

Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.

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  • RiflemannRiflemann Member Posts: 269 Member
    Well we need to make sure this guy never gets in the Whitehouse, like he has plans for.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,945 Senior Member
    Yes. . .ban those Barretts, because every gang-banger does his drive-bys and liquor store robberies with a sixty-inch, forty pound, ten thousand dollar sniping system. Maybe that's why their pants are so baggy - to give them room for the .50 caliber rifle, the cash needed to buy one, or the load they would fill their undies with if they actually tried to shoot one.:roll:
    WWJMBD?

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    reported
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,269 Senior Member
    He's got a good reason for banning a Barrett .50- - - - -if some assassain shoots him in the butt with one, it just might penetrate all the way to his brain!
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,010 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    He's got a good reason for banning a Barrett .50- - - - -if some assassain shoots him in the butt with one, it just might penetrate all the way to his brain!
    Jerry

    :that:
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,904 Senior Member
    I'm tired of this business.

    Let's ban being _ _ _ while in a leadership role.
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,062 Senior Member
    Christie is a RINO douchebag. I can't believe Ann Coulter would endorse that bowling pin before last primary. If he runs and wins the primary, I will stay home like others here did last time.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • AiredaleAiredale Banned Posts: 624 Senior Member
    Yep,
    Any one who does'nt agree with you is a douchebag
    Interesting.
  • avmechavmech Senior Member Posts: 858 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    He's got a good reason for banning a Barrett .50- - - - -if some assassain shoots him in the butt with one, it just might penetrate all the way to his brain!
    Jerry

    What brain?

    Never liked that bag of hot air
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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 4,584 Senior Member
    Airedale wrote: »
    Yep,
    Any one who does'nt agree with you is a douchebag
    Interesting.

    Anyone that attacks what shall not be infringed is a douchebag. Anyone that supports said attack is also a douchebag.
    The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

    Ayn Rand
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,052 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    Anyone that attacks what shall not be infringed is a douchebag. Anyone that supports said attack is also a douchebag.
    Consider the poster. He's got comprehension issues.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,245 Senior Member
    Hopefully this will educate more than a few people who have been touting him for Barry's job.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,355 Senior Member
    Airedale wrote: »
    Yep,
    Any one who does'nt agree with you is a douchebag
    Interesting.

    As an answer of sorts, let me ask you: Do you agree with Christie's plan?

    As to the namecalling, I guess I'd put it this way: If you're a politician who is trying to 'reform' gun issues, then yes, you would be one of the aformentioned douchebags. If instead you are joe sixpack touting gun reform, then you are merely an idiot.

    Better?
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,056 Senior Member
    There might be some merit to some of the stuff like using a government issued ID (like everyone should need to vote). The video game thing is pretty much a joke. Some of the mental health stuff could be genuinely helpful (the devil is in the details). Banning specifically, "future purchases of the Barrett .50 Caliber" is the most absurd thing that I have ever heard of. They are not even banning .50 caliber rifles, just Barrett's rifles.
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,624 Senior Member
    Quote: [•Making it easier for health professionals and courts to require potentially dangerous people to receive the treatment they need whether it is in the form of inpatient or outpatient care. This will allow the monitoring of their progress and ensure they are receiving the kind of specific care they need.]

    And so now all it takes to be forced to take psychotropic drugs, or even be committed to an asylum in New Jersey is an order from a "health care professional." The lawyers will be lining up for this one. There really is no solution to the mental health crisis in this country except to create a helluva lot more special courts to adjudicate patients, and a lot fewer shrinks puffing up their big pharma stocks by prescribing Ritalin to zillions of perfectly normal kids and the psychotropic drugs that turn average nutcases into homicidal-suicidal maniacs. For the present, it's hopeless.

    Note to Governor Christie: Forget the White House. Don't even think about it.
  • JLDickmonJLDickmon Senior Member Posts: 1,726 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    Anyone that attacks what shall not be infringed is a douchebag. Anyone that supports said attack is also a douchebag participating in douchebaggery with douchebagginess.
    fixed it for you..


    anyway..
    like that knucklehead in the Facebook group we troll.. the other day he was up to his usual antics, and then I said, "OK. I wave my magic wand and give YOU the power to decide.. "Where do you draw the line?" "
    "Schizophrenia? Hallucinations?
    Mild clinical depression and a prescription for Prozac?
    Autism?
    ADHD?
    How about just flat out being a dick?"

    Because once that line is drawn, then next thing that's gonna happen will be some wad steps over it.
    So the line will get moved..
    until the "friendly guy next door who always helped everyone" goes all Mad Max..

    slippery slope.
    and the New Jersey Doughboy just greased the pan
    Never laugh at your wife's choices.
    You are one of them.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,062 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    As an answer of sorts, let me ask you: Do you agree with Christie's plan?

    As to the namecalling, I guess I'd put it this way: If you're a politician who is trying to 'reform' gun issues, then yes, you would be one of the aformentioned douchebags. If instead you are joe sixpack touting gun reform, then you are merely an idiot.

    Better?
    This is the point I was trying to make. I don't call people douchebags just because I disagree with them. I reserve that term mostly for politicians who make stupid policy or for people I genuinely don't like for some reason.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
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