With my shoulder's current condition, HOPE to get to attempt it some time next year. I bet their pattern changes once or twice before between now and when I get out that way again
As one who has had shoulder surgery.............I will NOT allow you to shoot that .458 Win Mag this year after your surgery. Ain't gonna happen.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
In this months (May '13) American Hunter magazine there is a small article about Hornady Bullets that should be interesting to you and Snake.
I look forward to hearing the comments from both of you about the article.
Thanks for the in depth details of the shot. Nice pictures with the tele.
In this months (May '13) American Hunter magazine there is a small article about Hornady Bullets that should be interesting to you and Snake.
I look forward to hearing the comments from both of you about the article.
Thanks for the in depth details of the shot. Nice pictures with the tele.
The comments have to come from Snake. I don't get that magazine.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Like I told you, the A-Max is a different sort of match bullet. It's a long range match bullet. It has a THICKER jacket than normal and the reason the guy told me he wouldn't recommend it for hunting or at least general hunting is that they never did expansion tests on it. It's thicker to withstand the higher RPM of a faster twist barrel needed to stabilize long range match bullets.
Hey, and if it works for you good.
The hogs on my deer lease are either cold black or maybe brownish black. They're ugly.
Maybe you're a pictures kinda guy instead of links. I'll hook ya up. Straight of the Hornady site for your viewing pleasure. Expansion/Penetration Tests and a thin jacket.
What else ya want?
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
You realize how dangerous he/she/it is right????.....375 Ruger at a min....404 maybe safer....never trusted that sucker....even as a kid......worse than a clown.........
Outstanding oinker! Good report, thanks for sharing!
I am a big fan of the SST but the AMax looks like it does the job too!
timc - formerly known as timc on the last G&A forum and timc on the G&A forum before that and the G&A forum before that.....
AKA: Former Founding Member
Outstanding oinker! Good report, thanks for sharing!
I am a big fan of the SST but the AMax looks like it does the job too!
I currently have SST loads for my .243, .25-06, and .30-06 rifles. To date, I've only used the .25-06 load on game and it did a resounding job. Deer just went stiff legged and fell over on impact after a 100 yard lung shot.
I have no issue with the terminal performance of the SST. Just don't like the crimp ring and feel that it hinders accuracy to a minor extent. Just enough to have a personal issue. But still, I use them.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
You realize how dangerous he/she/it is right????.....375 Ruger at a min....404 maybe safer....never trusted that sucker....even as a kid......worse than a clown.........
I fear no bird!
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
I think it is high time the 168 took a break and give the 140 (6.5) and the 162 (7mm) some time:agree:
Tell them to come out when the sun is still up! Then, I could test several more cartridges. But, if it's after dark............there is but one choice.
Edit: Well, two choices.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
No, my comments came from over the phone with a Hornady tech rep. That's what the guy told me.
Ok, so?
I have produced evidence from Hornady, to include photo evidence from their very site, that disproves and contradicts what you were told.
Maybe that was the janitor who answered the phone as a prank when you called. Maybe the guy you spoke to was talking out his butt. Either way, the folks I've spoken to for years from Hornady and the tech who spoke with the other forum member here say something different to the man you spoke with. Then, the site is counter to your information.
You sticking to your belief of what that guy told you like a sheep with blinders? Or, are you going to consider the mounting evidence against what you were told.
This is a fun discussion, I've really enjoyed it. But, at some point, I'm going to question your intelligence.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
That's another nice porker! Considering the bullet path and a hog's anatomy that's some really good penetration. Looks like the bullet did a good job of shutting down the pump. Since it passed through part of the skull, I'm not all that surprised at the amount of bullet left at the place it came to rest. It went through some pretty solid bone to get there.
Bullet needs more testing. An even hundred one shot kills would prove it's worth. :tooth:
“I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer” ― Douglas Adams
This is a fun discussion, I've really enjoyed it. But, at some point, I'm going to question your intelligence.
Listen, you've killed, what, two pigs and a deer? What you have here is what we lawyer types like to call anecdotal evidence.
We've shot waaaaay more paper than you have pork. Complete pass throughs, no blood trails because there was no tracking involved, they were DRT. Oh, and no bullet separation, 99% weight retention. I think you get my point.
Listen, you've killed, what, two pigs and a deer? What you have here is what we lawyer types like to call anecdotal evidence.
We've shot waaaaay more paper than you have pork. Complete pass throughs, no blood trails because there was no tracking involved, they were DRT. Oh, and no bullet separation, 99% weight retention. I think you get my point.
Listen, you've killed, what, two pigs and a deer? What you have here is what we lawyer types like to call anecdotal evidence.
I think we can safely determine that both my knives AND my A-Max bullets have killed more things than your .270 has. We are well beyond what has been posted here.
You need another spoon.
:-)
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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You've been lucky twice now.
Living dangerously.
Quit picking on Norm!! He's harmless!
As one who has had shoulder surgery.............I will NOT allow you to shoot that .458 Win Mag this year after your surgery. Ain't gonna happen.
I look forward to hearing the comments from both of you about the article.
Thanks for the in depth details of the shot. Nice pictures with the tele.
The comments have to come from Snake. I don't get that magazine.
Maybe you're a pictures kinda guy instead of links. I'll hook ya up. Straight of the Hornady site for your viewing pleasure. Expansion/Penetration Tests and a thin jacket.
What else ya want?
I am a big fan of the SST but the AMax looks like it does the job too!
AKA: Former Founding Member
I currently have SST loads for my .243, .25-06, and .30-06 rifles. To date, I've only used the .25-06 load on game and it did a resounding job. Deer just went stiff legged and fell over on impact after a 100 yard lung shot.
I have no issue with the terminal performance of the SST. Just don't like the crimp ring and feel that it hinders accuracy to a minor extent. Just enough to have a personal issue. But still, I use them.
I fear no bird!
Mike
N454casull
As many as will stand in front of them.
:-)
"The Un-Tactical"
Tell them to come out when the sun is still up! Then, I could test several more cartridges. But, if it's after dark............there is but one choice.
Edit: Well, two choices.
"The Un-Tactical"
I'm all ears.
"The Un-Tactical"
Won't help in the dark.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Ok, so?
I have produced evidence from Hornady, to include photo evidence from their very site, that disproves and contradicts what you were told.
Maybe that was the janitor who answered the phone as a prank when you called. Maybe the guy you spoke to was talking out his butt. Either way, the folks I've spoken to for years from Hornady and the tech who spoke with the other forum member here say something different to the man you spoke with. Then, the site is counter to your information.
You sticking to your belief of what that guy told you like a sheep with blinders? Or, are you going to consider the mounting evidence against what you were told.
This is a fun discussion, I've really enjoyed it. But, at some point, I'm going to question your intelligence.
Bullet needs more testing. An even hundred one shot kills would prove it's worth. :tooth:
― Douglas Adams
Listen, you've killed, what, two pigs and a deer? What you have here is what we lawyer types like to call anecdotal evidence.
We've shot waaaaay more paper than you have pork. Complete pass throughs, no blood trails because there was no tracking involved, they were DRT. Oh, and no bullet separation, 99% weight retention. I think you get my point.
/stir
"The Un-Tactical"
I think we can safely determine that both my knives AND my A-Max bullets have killed more things than your .270 has. We are well beyond what has been posted here.
You need another spoon.
:-)
I'm getting there.
Yeah.. All that's left is the handle. He's not taking the bait.