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BuffcoBuffco Senior MemberPosts: 6,244 Senior Member
Geez Louise....


Gun sales surge after Boston Bombing:


We have met the enemy, and he is us.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
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    Buffco wrote: »
    Geez Louise....


    Gun sales surge after Boston Bombing:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/22/Gun-Ammo-Sales-Continue-To-Surge-Following-Boston-Bombing

    We have met the enemy, and he is us.

    You sound just like my youngest daughter, but then she is a Lawyer in Boston so I would expect it from her. But You, who I have believed to be a level headed country boy gun owning conservative, surprised me with this.

    I don't trust any of these libtards. Guns have been confiscated all over the world because people believed politicians when theyb claimed all they wanted to do was use common sense measures to tighten control over who can buy a gun. However, I'm not going to break my bank to stock up on stuff I may never use. The key to this is buy a little at a time and stock up over time. It's a good idea to have a supply of ammo and it's always fun to buy a new gun, if it's something you want.

    However, the worst of all this is the Obama administration has figured out that if they buy up a lot of ammo, then we will not be able to get what we want. If they can't outlaw our guns then they'll give us gun control by default. If there's no ammo or components available, then they don't need to confiscate our guns.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    I'm a realist, snake.

    The Senate doesn't have the appetite for it, the House doesn't have the votes. Obama is a powerless gelding. He can't do anything.

    But the perpetual fear is getting annoying. I want to buy some 22 ammo, ****. And I want to do so without getting a 2nd mortgage.

    I know there are some who would say it's my fault for not preparing. I guess... But that attitude is partially what is driving this demand and subsequent scarcity. I just think that it's a sad state of affairs that I MUST hoard if I want to shoot.

    I'm not saying I trust Obama. I know he has no use for someone like me and even less use for guns. (unless it's for his Secret Service) But he's a joke. And has much bigger fish to fry.

    What we are suffering with is fear because "he COULD" or, gasp, the U.N. is coming for my guns. This is all a false panic. And I'm sick of it.

    /rant
  • the independentthe independent Member Posts: 52 Member
    The article points to New York. Right now friends there are buying up anything they can get their hands on. Seems the government there passed some restrictive laws and that is what they are saying is driving the issue there. It is not false in 2014 they will be there other states sooner.
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    I agree there's a little more to worry about on the state level, and I'm all for keeping my guard up and eyes on D.C.

    But ain't nobody in Kennesaw GA coming for your guns, Elmer, so put down that third brick of 22 and buy beer instead.
  • KENFU1911KENFU1911 Senior Member Near Seligman AZPosts: 1,052 Senior Member
    Halloween....just wait...it will be all better by then.....before Thanksgiving at the latest......Ken
  • samzheresamzhere Banned HoustonPosts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Buff, I tend to agree with you, with the following exception... The Obama Regime would LIKE to greatly restrict our gun owning freedoms, as would most liberals. It's by our NRA membership dues and other pro-gun actions that we can continue to deflect the Regime's goals.

    So yeah, I agree that gun seizure isn't likely to occur, but it's not due to the wishes of liberals to not do so, but rather to our activism to protect our rights. We need to be vigilant always.
  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    Send this to all your friends.
    Trust the government . Believe the government. The government and its representatives are your friends. Trust them. They won't hurt you. They have your best interests at heart.
    If I can just get them to believe this then maybe prices will come down so I can afford the 1911 I want.
  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,930 Senior Member
    I know I wish things would go back to normal. Am I out of ammo,no. Did I prepare for this, maybe not. I have got some ammo for all my guns but it has slowed down the amount of time we go to the range. I don't want to shoot it up because I don't know if I can replace it. Heck I don't even know if I have enough to take to the SE shoot. The next time it goes back to normal I guess I will have to be a hoarder and stock pile just so I can go out and do some plinking whenever I want to.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Dellrose TNPosts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I got an instant malware warning on that link!

    Proceed with caution if you decide to click on it!
    Jerry
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I got something as well and I run Microsoft Security Essentials. I would be deleting that link.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,930 Senior Member
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I got something as well and I run Microsoft Security Essentials. I would be deleting that link.

    Done. Sorry. Never had a problem with breitbart, not that it's a site I frequent, it just was a link from the Drudge Report.
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Banned O HI OPosts: 2,645 Senior Member
    I told y'all the gun manufacturers weren't gonna let the govt take our guns. They have a dog in the fight. And one overseas at that.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Done. Sorry. Never had a problem with breitbart, not that it's a site I frequent, it just was a link from the Drudge Report.
    Neither have I. I am on Drudge all the time, but never get that from the links. I am still doing the scan. It might be nothing, but it definitely set off my anti-malware.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I told y'all the gun manufacturers weren't gonna let the govt take our guns. They have a dog in the fight. And one overseas at that.
    Gun manufacturers don't vote. People vote. Gun manufacturers are a small part of the economy. Don't fall for that liberal "gun manufacturer lobby" crap. The NRA is people!!!
    hartman.jpg
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Gun manufacturers don't vote. People vote. Gun manufacturers are a small part of the economy. Don't fall for that liberal "gun manufacturer lobby" crap. The NRA is people!!!
    hartman.jpg
    This is freaking hilarious on about 6 different levels. I crack myself up sometimes.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Something like that....
    1) Heston starred in the movie Soylent Green.
    2) A big liberal complaint is that firearm manufacturers are responsible for influencing politicians.
    3) People (in this case) are responsible for influencing politicians.
    4) Phil Hartman did a skit of Heston doing Soylent Green.
    5) Heston was president of the NRA.
    6) Soylent Green was people.
    7) The NRA is people (not corporate interests).

    I was wrong... Seven levels of funny!
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Buffy-- Just a FYI.... It set off my malware alarm, but a complete scan of my computer revealed nothing. It is a good link, but it was flagged or something.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Here Alpha (since you are libtarded)...
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Then there is this one with Hartman...
    It is a shame that NBC won't allow the clip on Youtube. It is freaking hilarious.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Miami, FL almost in the USA ;)Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    The term government is derived from to govern, which means to control. Personally I have enough control in my life as I have a wife and child and business clients that already tell me what to do.

    The Government is not coming for our guns today, but they exist to control us, by our own permission. It is up to us and the Constitution to limit their reach for more control. I wish that they would focus on enforcing existing laws rather than attempt to create new laws.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • gunwalkergunwalker Member south central Pa.Posts: 479 Member
    Buffco, I respectfully disagree with your contention that Obama can't do anything. Quite the opposite in fact. By executive order, he can create a morass of regulations making gun buying a nightmare. The regulations imposed may be unconstitutional but it would take years to mount a legal challenge and have it go to the Supreme Court, which can choose not to take the case. By that time the damage has been done.
    We do not view the world as it is, but as we perceive it to be.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,309 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    Personally I have enough control in my life as I have a wife and child and business clients that already tell me what to do.
    D

    Preach it, brother!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    gunwalker wrote: »
    Buffco, I respectfully disagree with your contention that Obama can't do anything.

    Sure, he can. The question is, "Will he?"

    I say no. First, he's not that stupid. Second, it's just not that high on his agenda. Look at the ball-less executive orders he cranked out after Sandy Hook. They accomplished nothing other than enabling him to say he'd "done something". And that was mere WEEKS after children were shot dead!!

    Now that we've moved even further away from SH, he's less inclined to rile that sleeping dragon.

    My thoughts, anyway. It's open to debate, sure. And like I said, I'm not suggesting we become less vigilante. Just that we tamp down the fear just a wee bit.
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    The Government is not coming for our guns today, but they exist to control us, by our own permission. It is up to us and the Constitution to limit their reach for more control. I wish that they would focus on enforcing existing laws rather than attempt to create new laws.

    D

    Exactly. Hoarding ammo does NOTHING to limit that reach. All the other actions we take DO.

    Just tired of the current situation, is all. ;)
  • bisleybisley Senior Member East TexasPosts: 10,815 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Sure, he can. The question is, "Will he?"

    I say no. First, he's not that stupid. Second, it's just not that high on his agenda. Look at the ball-less executive orders he cranked out after Sandy Hook. They accomplished nothing other than enabling him to say he'd "done something". And that was mere WEEKS after children were shot dead!!

    He isn't stupid, and it is very high on his agenda - near the top, in fact. But, because he isn't stupid, he now knows the timing is still not right. He misjudged the mood of the public because he lives in a liberal/socialist bubble in which anything he personally believes is deemed to be right. He was convinced that with a well-coordinated media assault, he could spin the Sandy Hook tragedy into a mandate for gun control. It worked in New York and a few other places where all opposition could be stifled with straw-man arguments and the usual demagoguery, but it didn't sell, nationwide.

    We mustn't forget that he is still just a community organizer, and his job is to keep his very tenuous base whipped up for the mid-term elections, and recruit more morons with emotionally charged rhetoric and bogus 'facts' that nobody in the media will hold him to account for. His one goal is to destroy all political opposition, basically the Republican Party, and to continue to paint conservatives as tin-foil hat wearing rednecks. He has to regain control of both houses of Congress before he can ram his real agenda down the throats of an American public that is slowly waking up to the fact that he doesn't give a damn about solving any problems that will cure what ails the economy.

    Remember that he had everything his way for two years and was able to ram through Obamacare and countless other still-to-be-discovered laws and rules that are designed to break this economy and establish government as it's only savior. He has not done a single thing since losing the House, except tiptoe around the edges of his real agenda with executive orders, and quietly allow the various bureaucracies to overstep their authority when no one is looking.

    Give him the House in 2014, and you won't recognize this country in 2016. Give him the House and the Supreme Court, and nothing short of revolution will ever put Humpty-Dumpty back together again.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    This is the 4th time in 20 years that guns, ammunition, and reloading supplies have been in short supply.

    First was when Clinton's assault weapon ban went into effect. Any semiauto military rifle of any make was in high demand and supply got short, but ammo and reloading supplies were stable and obtainable at slightly higher prices.

    Second was the first election of Obama. People panicked thinking he would somehow ram a firearms confiscation bill through. Semiauto firearms and ammo became somewhat hard to find, but reloading components and equipment stayed available.

    Third was Obama's reelection. Same deal. Semiautos and ammo became somewhat hard to find, but reloading components and equipment stayed available.

    Forth time. Sandy Hook and push for draconian gun control. Most all firearms of ANY type are in such high demand that demand exceeds supply available with factories running full out. Ammo is pretty nonexistent on the shelves and extremely expensive. Reloading equipment and components are mostly unavailable at any price. Reloading equipment and component scarcity is new. Never been scarce to this degree before. Danged preppers!

    It's herd mentality driving the scarcity. The scarcity of a thing or suddenly realizing a thing may no longer be available can drive panic buying. The shelves get cleared during the beginning. This reinforces the belief that the thing(s) desired are soon to be unavailable, and anyone seeing such items on the shelf buy them in bulk to hoard for the future. This is when some people step in and buy all they can get their hands on and raise prices sharply, and use rhetoric to imply that 'this is the last that will be produced' or similar to drive inflated sales prices and further panic. This causes even more panic and another buying frenzy. Rumors fly the whole time. The system is now in place and feeds on itself. I could throw in some points of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs here, but that would be overkill.

    It's nothing but herd mentality at it's worst. It will die down when either the politicians shut their pie holes about the recent gun control push, or people hoarding get their fill and stop or slow down their buying. Both would be good. An analogy to this is gold prices; it went from around $270 per ounce to nearly $1400 now due to stock market uncertainty. More herd mentality and panic buying drove the price up. More of that demand exceeding supply thing.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    I'm a realist, snake.

    The Senate doesn't have the appetite for it, the House doesn't have the votes. Obama is a powerless gelding. He can't do anything.

    But the perpetual fear is getting annoying. I want to buy some 22 ammo, ****. And I want to do so without getting a 2nd mortgage.

    I know there are some who would say it's my fault for not preparing. I guess... But that attitude is partially what is driving this demand and subsequent scarcity. I just think that it's a sad state of affairs that I MUST hoard if I want to shoot.

    I'm not saying I trust Obama. I know he has no use for someone like me and even less use for guns. (unless it's for his Secret Service) But he's a joke. And has much bigger fish to fry.

    What we are suffering with is fear because "he COULD" or, gasp, the U.N. is coming for my guns. This is all a false panic. And I'm sick of it.

    /rant

    OK, now that sounds more reasonable coming from you. I can live with that, and somewhat agree. But your initial post had me worried.

    This shortage really is not what worries me. It just pisses me off. But the real worry is that Obama would if he could come after your and my guns. That is his goal, in my opinion. It's in his agenda. That's where I was coming from. Also, thank God above, that the congress (Both houses) is never totally lame duck. If so, they might sell us down the river in a heartbeat. But they're on a rotating election schedule (By Design) and it's hard to find enough of em at one time to sell us out.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bowserbbowserb Member Houston, TX USAPosts: 277 Member
    Obama will get amnesty for 20 million illegals, at which point they will get earned income credit (that's a tax refund without paying taxes), Medicaid, and food stamps. The food stamps will qualify them for free cell phones (Last year we spent one billion dollars providing free cell phones to food stamp recipients). Obama plans to tax large 401k accounts, cut Social Security and Medicare, and increase income taxes.

    Question. If you were going to screw millions of people out of benefits they paid for, while also increasing taxes on their earnings and savings, and giving what they earned to people who have never worked or who were here illegally, wouldn't you want to disarm those people you were screwing first?

    Dufus Joe Biden said in a speech that the Tea Party people are simply nonviolent anarchists. How much more rape and plunder by our government will it take before the "nonviolent" part goes away? They have to get our guns. We have to keep them!


    Sent using Tapatalk...so please excuse the typos!
    "We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history." - Ayn Rand
  • BufordBuford Senior Member CA. Beach citiesPosts: 6,721 Senior Member
    New shooters are not the problem, panic is.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
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