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JerryBobCo
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Far out political predictions
JerryBobCo
Senior MemberPosts: 8,119 Senior Member
Here's mine.
Chris Christie will switch parties and run in the democratic presidential primary in order to become the democratic nominee for president. After last year's shameful suck up display to obama that hurt Romney, as well as some moderate/liberal stances he has taken, I think he knows he hasn't got a chance of getting the republican nomination.
This will probably hinge, though, on how badly Hillary is damaged over Benghazigate. In a recent press conference, Jay Carney hinted that the administration might just put this all on her, and it certainly won't be the first time that obama has thrown an ally under the bus.
What do you think? Is there any possibility of this happening, or am I just imagining things?
What about your own predictions?
Chris Christie will switch parties and run in the democratic presidential primary in order to become the democratic nominee for president. After last year's shameful suck up display to obama that hurt Romney, as well as some moderate/liberal stances he has taken, I think he knows he hasn't got a chance of getting the republican nomination.
This will probably hinge, though, on how badly Hillary is damaged over Benghazigate. In a recent press conference, Jay Carney hinted that the administration might just put this all on her, and it certainly won't be the first time that obama has thrown an ally under the bus.
What do you think? Is there any possibility of this happening, or am I just imagining things?
What about your own predictions?
Jerry
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
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Re. Christie switching parties, I doubt this for a couple of reasons. First, CC is a strong pro-business Republican (yes he's kissed up to the regime but otherwise he's a liberal Republican). Second, CC wouldn't be accepted by the Demo party -- he wouldn't have a cozy berth from which to start a campaign. Third, he considers himself a Republican and has been fairly caustic toward Demos in NJ. Yes, we know he's not a conservative but Christie himself thinks himself Republican and has his own internal integrity meter running.
Christie's actually fairly typical for an eastern liberal Republican -- they always seem to be a bit eccentric and very outspoken, are supporters of private business, and are socially liberal. Christie's very similar, for example, to former NY mayor Rudy Giuliani.
So no, I don't see Christie switching parties.
My prediction: Christie will run for and likely get, the Republican nomination. Hillary will be president, because libertarians and conservatives will stay home. Again.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That sounds like the GOP concerning presidential candidates.
Adam J. McCleod
Let 'em come...... I got Slim Whitman.......
Thrown to the wolves? Nope. Not any better.
Sold down the river? No. Still smilin'.
Thirty pieces of silver? Cheap at twice the price.
Judas Kiss? Use all the tongue you want.
Stabbed in the back? YOU GO, BRUTUS!
Given the shaft? No. . .that was Bill's thing.
I'm just hoping the Repubes come up with somebody who makes the SOCIAL conservatives think about staying home, or at least quibble for a spell over the lesser of two evils. Those candidates may appeal to a large Republican base, but they tend to nauseate a lot of the middle - who you can't win an election without.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
I too was sickened by Christie's Obsequious behavior and what you predict doesn't sound too far fetched. However, I'm not sure what will come of Hillary yet. I agree Obummer would throw her and anyone else under the bus that would get him off the hook. He needs a lesson from Harry Truman about where the Buck stops. I think Benghazi will turn into something big, and there's a good chance Obummer will suffer from it. Another point is that if Obummer keeps pushing gun legislation like he is, he will hurt his party in the legislature. The average American has seen the light on gun control. If you don't believe this, look on Yahoo and other internet sites in the comments on this subject. Gun rights people outnumber gun grabbers about 10 to 1, at least that's what it looks like from those who comment. I don't think this is because the antis aren't commenting because they comment on everything else.
One thing I believe is that by 2016 election time, I think the country will have had enough of the liberal Democrats for about 20 years and the mood of the country will flip over. I've been watching this for about 50 years and it seems that the fickle public will flip and flop through the years. The average American isn't politically savy enough to really know what's best for the country so they go by feel, not thought. Thinking with your heart is not smart.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
It just so happens that I know a place.............2 islands, not far away from each other, in the north are white sandy beaches, excellent fishing both salt and fresh water, and a mild climate, in the south are mountains full of Deer, Tahr, Chamois, Geese and ski fields. The people are pleasant, have few vices ( There are plenty of good looking sheep..........er .........girls to go round) gun ownership is not under attack (much), The government is conservative ( at the moment)........Did I mention the women outnumber the guys by 2 to 1..........The downside is that our nearest neighbours are descended from thieves and sheep stealers but they will always watch your back if there is strife, despite the fact that we regularly beat them at Rugby.
Heck, we even have electricity and running water now...............
Edited to add: Hell, if enough of the members move here we could elect Wambli for President.
Hmmmmm...an exodus.....can I bring my horse?
If Christie runs against Clinton, Clinton will win. She has the 'bread and circuses' base and they outnumber the 'work for your daily bread' base. We're running out of other people's money; no, we've already run out of other people's money and are using debt to run the country. The house of cards will eventually collapse from runaway inflation from printing worthless paper money(past history of Germany, Italy, and Greece), and then the 'bread and circuses' crowd will go wild. It will be interesting times.
― Douglas Adams
It's tempting but no thanks. If that happens I'm going to the Philippines, find me 3 or 4 Magandang Babais and go hide in a cave.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
:uhm:
Wikipedia;
'A second (or third, or fourth) American revolution was conceived early on as attainable via the Article V Convention'
Agree they're not identical, Rudy being more conservative. But I was just saying that, in general, successful east-coast Republicans have a particular makeup and that Christie fits that pattern, mostly. He will therefore get lots of liberal Republican votes plus a good percent of Demos, too.
The question here isn't whether Christie is an ideal Republican (he isn't) but whether he'd switch to Demo. I say no way. He clearly thinks of himself as a Rep and I cannot imagine the Dems accepting him if he did switch.
I'm frankly happy to have Christie in the big tent (he needs a big tent, ha ha, keep those jokes coming till his tummy-belt thingie gets results), and I think he's a great campaigner and fund raiser for the party overall. If I had to choose between him and a Democrat, I'd have to pick the somewhat less liberal Christie rather than any Demo, I suppose. Anyway...
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
There was the first one with the Revolutionary war when we broke away from England.
I count the Late Unpleasantness(Civil War) as the second when the South attempted to break away and form their own government.
This upcoming one will be the Third Revolutionary war in which large blocks of the country will separate from the central government with the attending extreme violence necessary to accomplish it.
― Douglas Adams
Pro gun?
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Rudy_Giuliani_Gun_Control.htm
Adam J. McCleod
I thought it may have been something to do with the war between the states, just checking. :up:
In this 'separation from the central government' do you envisage any northern states opting to amalgamate with Canada?
Do you see the Revolutionary States aligning with each other?
A loose Confederation e.g. the Deutscher Bund after the 1814 Congress of Vienna.
PS.
What of the Southern states and there big lawless friend to the south?
Hopefully, a conservative/libertarian revolution will occur, and avoid or postpone that revolution that tennmike is predicting. Of course, all of this is irrelevant if Dems win the mid-terms...we could easily have Obama, for life, especially if one of the non-leftie Supremes kicks the bucket.
I see a Western Alliance (AZ, NV, ID, MT, WY, maybe the Dakotas). This group will have to take CA, or OR, or WA . Coastal access is mandatory.
There will also be a Southern Alliance. I see Texas being the central focus.
Will these two allign with each other?
Adam J. McCleod
Crown Prince Obama!!!! :applause:
Think of it, free phones for life!
He said or I read last week all Obammy's promises with aid for his state were met.
I like him well enough, but he is a little left of the right wing center and I don't agree with all his politics, especially on the 2A.
Between him and Hillary, oh hell yes he would get my vote.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Don't see any states going with Canada. It would be silly to throw off one government they don't like for one that isn't aligned with their vision of freedom.
The North Eastern states would be a big block. They are too unlike the rest of the country to align with any other block. There would be the Southern block with maybe one or two extra who would join that block. The rest would be a hard one to draw out. I can see how California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, and maybe Colorado would be in the same block.
By 'big lawless friend to the south' do you mean Cuba? If so, the Southern block would normalize relations with them, introduce free commerce with them, and put in place a thriving commerce that no dictator could stand a snowball's chance in hell of staying in power. Once a majority of a population starts to make money and move up economically, they won't stand for a dictator making waves. Give the Cuban people a chance with freedom and a good dose of capitalism and I believe they'd hit the ground running and put a dictator out of business.
If you mean Mexico, then the border would be a lot different than it is now. Lots less foolishness going on. Drug cartels get too frisky and they'd get the short end of the stick in a hurry.
― Douglas Adams
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
What number of states would be left in-house or Loyalists as were?
As tennmike stated, the northwest states would be a block. CA, OR, and WA will likely try to allign with the northwest. This is be the Loyalists. Colorado will try to join this group, but I think Denver will be burned to the ground, leaving the rest of the population wanting to join the Western Alliance.
Adam J. McCleod
The east side of Oregon and Washington would separate and have noting to do with the west. I can promise that. Oregon and Washington are states seriously divided.