Magpul does it again

Jayhawker

I'm not sure if this should go here or in the 2A forum, however, our friends at Magpul are now marketing a 40 round PMAG....I think there might be more than a little of a political statement here....and while I rarely use the stack of 30 rounders I have, and certainly have no use for a 40 round mag, I say KUDOs to Magpul!....

jbohio

Nice! Gotta like those guys.

I've no use for one, either, but I'll buy a few anyway. For zombies.

SirGeorgeKillian

When things get better for me, I will pick a few up. If for no other reason, I heard once that for every one you buy a liberals head explodes. I'm in.

Jay

That's perfect. So when I use factory ammo, I can fit two boxes in one mag instead of 1 1/2....

Zee

When 30 just ain't enough..........

Consequently, there is a 60 round mag made that seems to be working very well. I know a couple guys that run them with great success.

timc

Jay wrote: »

That's perfect. So when I use factory ammo, I can fit two boxes in one mag instead of 1 1/2....

I thought it was just an excuse to load 2 mags?

timc

I probably have more than enough mags to last me the rest of my life but when I come across them I'll probable pick up a couple.

mythaeus

If they are going to make a political statement, they should go all out and compete with Beta-C for the 100-rd drum. As a "home" user, I actually like the 20-rd and 30 is just about the limit in term of weight. A 40-rounder is just awkward looking. That said, hey, why not? Options are always good.

Al

Eli

Zee wrote: »

Consequently, there is a 60 round mag made that seems to be working very well. I know a couple guys that run them with great success.

Yup, made by Surefire.

http://www.surefire.com/mag5-60.html

Zee

Yep.

TSchub

What is the weight like on one of those with a full magazine?

timc

knitepoet wrote: »

Kudos to them :up:

They ever declare where they're moving too?

Man I hope Texas, would be nice to have them local.

Zee

TSchub wrote: »

What is the weight like on one of those with a full magazine?

Ive never weighed one, but I'd imagine just slightly less than two full mags.

bullsi1911

SirGeorgeKillian wrote: »

If for no other reason, I heard once that for every one you buy a liberals head explodes. I'm in.

That's why I built out the Saiga.

I'm in if the price is reasonable.

Uncle BS

I've got one made by promag, after I dremeled the ears a bit it runs fine. Impractically heavy, but it works. A necessary item for the full mall ninja experience.

justin10mm

That's all well and good but with the current ammo price/availability structure I think its time single shots came back into vogue.

Teach

Yep, here's my idea of a high-capacity magazine!



:tooth:
Jerry

Eli

Teach wrote: »

Yep, here's my idea of a high-capacity magazine!


Jerry

C'mon now Jerry, none of that has a way to actually feed the rounds into the chamber......that make it a clip! :tooth:

Teach

Look again, Eli- - - - -I see a 6-round patched ball holder and a ball starter!
Jerry

Razorbacker

justin10mm wrote: »

That's all well and good but with the current ammo price/availability structure I think its time single shots came back into vogue.

Went into a LGS today, Mags out the wazoo, $19.95. Plenty of .45acp and 9mm and 38spl. At least 100 boxes of .223. Didn't check the prices on .223 but the other stuff wasn't to bad. 20 something ARs and AKs too, Even a few AK pistols.
But zero, nada, bupkes, see ya, buh-by .22 od any type.

I also noticed his used inventory was low and he usually has a butt load. He did have an 03A3 completely Bubba'd. If I could get that thing for, say just under 400 bucks what do you guys think of that for a donor action?

Teach

An 03 makes a good donor, with the possible exception that the whole thing is as hard as glass and any machining has to be done with solid carbide tooling. Most of the aftermarket parts are somewhat more expensive than similar stuff for a Mauser. Either Mauser of 03 Springfield has been the classic custom sporter action for 70-odd years, so it's hard to go wrong with either one. With a lot of TLC, they can shoot as well as an off-the-shelf Savage, but the Savage will never have the class of a customized milsurp sporter.
Jerry

centermass556

So, will this mag put extra stress on the spring in the Mag release?

I ask because I did see failure with some of the folks that were taping two mags together when we started back in 01...I don't know the added weight of the extra mag caused the Failure, but it was happening to those that were doing it.

Razorbacker

Teach wrote: »

An 03 makes a good donor, with the possible exception that the whole thing is as hard as glass and any machining has to be done with solid carbide tooling. Most of the aftermarket parts are somewhat more expensive than similar stuff for a Mauser. Either Mauser of 03 Springfield has been the classic custom sporter action for 70-odd years, so it's hard to go wrong with either one. With a lot of TLC, they can shoot as well as an off-the-shelf Savage, but the Savage will never have the class of a customized milsurp sporter.
Jerry

I figured it would be good for a donor. the barrel appears to be original but i just need the action.

Teach

Springfield has a square (not Acme) barrel thread. It's a royal pain in the butt for the average gunsmith to turn an accurate one on a barrel blank. E.R. Shaw sells a pretty decent quality barrel, and they offer threading and chambering services at a pretty decent labor charge. Send them your receiver and bolt, and they send back a properly threaded and headspaced barreled action in the chambering of your choice. If you choose to use the original cone-shaped breech face, I think they will also clock the barrel and mill the cutout for the extractor that's necessary to duplicate the original Springfield chamber shape. This process isn't totally necessary, however- - - -03's feed and chamber just fine with a squared-off back of the barrel and a chamfered chamber like a Mauser has.
Jerry

Jayhawker

centermass556 wrote: »

So, will this mag put extra stress on the spring in the Mag release?

I ask because I did see failure with some of the folks that were taping two mags together when we started back in 01...I don't know the added weight of the extra mag caused the Failure, but it was happening to those that were doing it.

Pmags are designed to be loaded to capacity, they will actually hold an extra round i.e. 21 rounds in 20 rounders, 31 in 30, etc. The only malfunctions I ever had with a Pmag were the times I miscounted and overloaded the mag....they won't seat on a closed bolt... I discovered this in a match....much to my chagrin...

centermass556

I don't think I typed it correctly...The mag release spring actually on the AR, inside the magazine well...That is the spring I am talking about. The extra weight will pull against that spring.

mythaeus

centermass556 wrote: »

I don't think I typed it correctly...The mag release spring actually on the AR, inside the magazine well...That is the spring I am talking about. The extra weight will pull against that spring.

The mag release assembly is designed so that nothing weighs down on the spring vertically. Looking at your question, I realize how beautiful of a design the assembly actually is. Here are the parts:



Here is how they fit together:


The release button is much larger than the diameter of the spring and the release "bolt" arm. The release itself is long and extended rather far out horizontally and fit inside along the receiver body when the mag is in locked position. Both of these together reventing any weighing down of the entire assembly on the spring. If anything, the weight is exerted only on the release's notch that locks into the mag. I'm not sure if that is impacted by the additional weight of a larger mag, if at all, other than possibly more wear.

Al

LMLarsen

I'm sorry, I just don't get these extra capacity magazines. My SPR and carbine are heavy enough without 60 rounds in a mag, and frankly if I can't deal with something in 30 rounds, I'm toasted anyway.

centermass556

Like I said, I didn't know if that was the reason...But it was the reason we were given for the Magazine release failure on some weapon systems and not all of them. Causal and Correlation are not always together, but there were enough Soldiers double staking their magazines and experiencing the failure of the release to say so. One of the weapon techs with 3rd Army at Camp Doha backed it up. ..

So that is why I asked…Thanks for the Diagram though

CHIRO1989

LMLarsen wrote: »

I'm sorry, those large capacity magazines just aren't for me. My SPR and carbine are heavy enough without 60 rounds in a mag, but if you want to lug it around, more power to you, and if you think you need it, you should be able to buy it .

Fixed it.

softwarejanitor

Eli wrote: »

Yup, made by Surefire.

http://www.surefire.com/mag5-60.html

I bought one of those a while back... Works better than I expected... Really amazing design.