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Mikhail Kalashnikov

centermass556centermass556 Senior MemberPosts: 3,579 Senior Member
http://www.guns.com/2013/06/24/mikhail-kalashnikovs-health-has-taken-a-turn/

This man shaped more of the 20th Century than anyone else in the World....And he is dying...
"To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,313 Senior Member
    Sad news. The man designed a great battle implement.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    He is a great man, no matter which side he was on. Military people, unless they are guilty of war crimes and such, should be exempt from the political aspects of any regime. They do their job and don't usually have anything to do with policy.

    But my God, he's 93 years old. In my opinion anything past 80 is a hell of a gift. I Hope he pulls through and lives to be 113 or even more. I always love to see people live a long time, if they feel good and want to. But I'm not going to cry too hard if they don't. He's already lived a great life.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • centermass556centermass556 Senior Member Posts: 3,579 Senior Member
    Espeically since the man hiked/hitched his way out of exile in Siberia to become what he is today....And he still has stuff in the works!! The new AK for review to become the main battle rifle for Mother Russia is something to envy....

    Ladies/ Gentlemen, the AK 12

    http://rt.com/news/ak-12-kalashnikov-rifle-253/
    "To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
  • jwv2001jwv2001 Member Fresno, CAPosts: 126 Member
    This man shaped more of the 20th Century than anyone else in the World....

    Really??????
    .....if evil men were not now and then slain it would not be a good world for weaponless dreamers. --Kipling
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    I think the west did more to shape the world than the communists. They resisted the spread of that style of government and kept most of the world free, plus we caused the Soviet Union to fail. Of course, the AKs made that job just a bit harder because the west had to face a potent weapon capable of performing in almost any conditions.

    I think Stoner did almost as much as did Kalashnikov. However the SMLE was another that played a big part in the history of the 20th Century. And what about Paul and Wilhelm Mauser. Mauser design rifles have done their share, in WWI and WWII as well. Not to take anything away from Kalashnikov, but he had a lot of competition.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    We all gotta go meet our maker sooner or later. May he RIP :angel2:


    Woody Guthrie song:

    Woody Guthrie : Little Black Train

    There's a little black train a-coming,
    Coming down the track.
    You've got to ride that little black train
    but it ain't a-gonna bring you back.

    You may be a bar-room gambler
    And cheat your way through life,
    But you can't cheat that little black train
    Or beat this final ride.

    You silken bar-room ladies,
    dressed in your wordly pride.
    You've got to ride that little black train,
    That's coming in tonight.

    Your million dollar fortune,
    Your mansion glittering white,
    You can't take it with you
    When the train moves in tonight

    Get ready for your saviour
    Pick your business right.
    You've got to ride that little black train,
    To make this final ride.

    You silken bar-roomladies,
    dressed in your worldly pride,
    You've got to ride that little black train
    That's coming in tonight

    You may be a bar-room gambler,
    Cheat your way through life,
    But you can't cheat that little black train,
    Or beat this final ride.

    There's a little black train a-coming,
    Coming down the track.
    You've got to ride that little black train
    but it ain't a-gonna bring you back
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,697 Senior Member
    Kalashnikov's genius was in taking the innovations of two other geniuses - Garand (trigger) and Browning (long stroke piston) and distilling them down to a level of cheap that the West couldn't (or wouldn't) compete on. One thing I've come to really respect the Russians for: they never looked at the abilities of their "average soldier" through the rose colored glasses we tend to in the West. The typical trooper - whatever the nationality - won't adequately clean, maintain, or learn the fundamentals of serious marksmanship. Mickey T. understood this, and the result was that the world got a weapon designed by a genius who clearly understood that it would be used primarily by idiots.

    This is a pretty rare thing when you stop to think about it. Take your favorite firearms in the world - the ones that you've learned about in the greater levels of detail. Now think about how long you'd need to teach the finer points of running and maintaining that gun to someone who would need it to stay alive. I figure I could teach "AK 101" to a Neanderthal in about three or four hours, to a modern non-shooter in about two, and a person with moderate gun experience over a large cup of coffee. While no one can dispute the brilliance of the other giants of the firearms industry, you need to get a little nerdy to understand the nuances of their work. Kalashnikov was that very scarce kind of individual whose brilliance could be rapidly comprehended by the obviously non-brilliant.

    Never mind the gun industry - the world could use more of those.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • centermass556centermass556 Senior Member Posts: 3,579 Senior Member
    Everyone in the world knows what an AK-47 is. Outside of North America and parts of Europe, no one is going to tell you how great Stoner and Browning were. The AK-47 has seen Governments fall, New Governments rise, and allowed rebels to control entire regions...The only continent to not see the proliferation of the AK-47 in one form or another has been Antarctica.
    "To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Near St. LouisPosts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Everyone in the world knows what an AK-47 is. Outside of North America and parts of Europe, no one is going to tell you how great Stoner and Browning were. The AK-47 has seen Governments fall, New Governments rise, and allowed rebels to control entire regions...The only continent to not see the proliferation of the AK-47 in one form or another has been Antarctica.

    Yes, but we've just learned that Bigslug could probably teach the AK to the penguins in the time it takes to type this.

    Dan
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,602 Senior Member
    And the choir said "Amen". May the whistle on your train be soft and sweet.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,313 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Kalashnikov's genius was in taking the innovations of two other geniuses - Garand (trigger) and Browning (long stroke piston) and distilling them down to a level of cheap that the West couldn't (or wouldn't) compete on. One thing I've come to really respect the Russians for: they never looked at the abilities of their "average soldier" through the rose colored glasses we tend to in the West. The typical trooper - whatever the nationality - won't adequately clean, maintain, or learn the fundamentals of serious marksmanship. Mickey T. understood this, and the result was that the world got a weapon designed by a genius who clearly understood that it would be used primarily by idiots.

    This is a pretty rare thing when you stop to think about it. Take your favorite firearms in the world - the ones that you've learned about in the greater levels of detail. Now think about how long you'd need to teach the finer points of running and maintaining that gun to someone who would need it to stay alive. I figure I could teach "AK 101" to a Neanderthal in about three or four hours, to a modern non-shooter in about two, and a person with moderate gun experience over a large cup of coffee. While no one can dispute the brilliance of the other giants of the firearms industry, you need to get a little nerdy to understand the nuances of their work. Kalashnikov was that very scarce kind of individual whose brilliance could be rapidly comprehended by the obviously non-brilliant.

    Never mind the gun industry - the world could use more of those.

    There is a reason why I use a quote of Mr. Kalashnikov as my sig line. As someone who works in technology, I appreciate his brilliance toward simplification.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    The man who irritated our favorite idiot for decades has earned his spot in heaven :angel:
    ak47_5a.jpg

    Drives me nuts that the idiot is standing there with her finger on the trigger.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • centermass556centermass556 Senior Member Posts: 3,579 Senior Member
    Yes, but we've just learned that Bigslug could probably teach the AK to the penguins in the time it takes to type this.

    Dan

    I have conducted that training....




    So back too....Influenced more of the 20th Century than anyone else....
    "To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Central IndianaPosts: 902 Senior Member
    I just read an article I.O. Inc. Sporter Rifle™ — USA Made Quality, AK-47 Reliability https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/reviews/guns/i-o-inc-sporter-rifle-usa-made-quality-ak47-reliability/

    This sounds very interesting since One of the first areas I.O. improved was accuracy. Traditionally anyone owning or shooting an AK could only hope for 100 yard groups of four to six inches using iron sights, maybe more. “Poor” accuracy has always been the main argument against choosing an AK over an AR-15. I.O. has taken that issue off the plate. Their AK’s will group at two inches at 100 yards. And their retail prices starting at $676-$749.95.

    http://www.ioinc.us/

    Anyone know anything about this rifle? Sounds like a inexpensive alternative to an AR-15.
  • Fat BillyFat Billy Senior Member Atlanta GaPosts: 1,813 Senior Member
    One of the biggest improvements for accuracy is moving the rear site to the back of the upper receiver. The AK 47 rear sight is at the rear of the barrel. The new longer site radius will improve the accuracy big time. :applause: Later,
    Fat Billy

    Recoil is how you know primer ignition is complete.
  • RimfireRimfire Senior Member VirginiaPosts: 849 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I consider him the Russian equivalent of Eugene Stoner. I wish him well.

    :that: :agree:
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Miami, FL almost in the USA ;)Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    Fat Billy wrote: »
    One of the biggest improvements for accuracy is moving the rear site to the back of the upper receiver. The AK 47 rear sight is at the rear of the barrel. The new longer site radius will improve the accuracy big time. :applause: Later,

    Actually the biggest improvement in accuracy is correctly made ammo. A longer sight radius helps. Common Russian ammo is made to inexact specs compared to S&B.

    Two MOA from any semi-automatic that throws a 125 gr projectile is not bad for $700.00. My 30-06 Remington 742 can't do that.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,697 Senior Member
    Yes, but we've just learned that Bigslug could probably teach the AK to the penguins in the time it takes to type this.

    Dan

    Probably, but after watching Madagascar, I'd probably decline. The last thing those psycho birdies need is firepower.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Near St. LouisPosts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Well we already know apes can be taught to use it.
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,697 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I'll add to that : people who wipe their asses with their fingers need reliable weaponry, too.
    Well we already know apes can be taught to use it.

    Perhaps a mechanized launching device for these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgUwpb3I98M
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 14,037 Senior Member
    I think that one thing that centermass touched on is true: ComBloc forces would not have had the influence they had had they not had a cheap, reliable, easily mass-produced weapon at their disposal that was readily usable by even the most poorly-trained conscript. Kalashnikov's rifle was such a weapon. It allowed the Soviets to have a greater sphere of influence because they could compete (cheaply) with the West for military aid, and because they finally had a weapon they could produce in the numbers needed for their vast army.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • KalashnikovKalashnikov New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    :rotflmao:

    I know this is going to sound ignorant, but who is that idiot old hag with her finger on the trigger...looks like Feinstein and pelozi's cuter sister:confused:
  • USUFBUSUFB Senior Member Posts: 830 Senior Member
    I know this is going to sound ignorant, but who is that idiot old hag with her finger on the trigger...looks like Feinstein and pelozi's cuter sister:confused:

    Welcome. That old hag is Feinstein. Cute, though... Man you really need to get out some.
    Sometimes, I lie awake in bed at night wondering "Why the heck can't I fall asleep?"
    NRA Life Member
  • rberglofrberglof Senior Member North DakotaPosts: 2,985 Senior Member
    USUFB wrote: »
    Welcome. That old hag is Feinstein. Cute, though... Man you really need to get out some.

    Another scary thing is that she has a concealed carry and still hasn't a clue how to handle a firearm.
  • KalashnikovKalashnikov New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    USUFB wrote: »
    Welcome. That old hag is Feinstein. Cute, though... Man you really need to get out some.

    Yeah shows how much I pay attention to the media...or the antigun nuts. If I was that woman on the picture sitting behind Feinstein I'd be worried about the moron accidentally spraying me.
  • KalashnikovKalashnikov New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    rberglof wrote: »
    Another scary thing is that she has a concealed carry and still hasn't a clue how to handle a firearm.

    She has a concealed carry and is antigun...that makes all kinds of sense. But when you work for the Inept Empire I guess it does.
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