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This could be interesting..........New Kiwimade 50 cal..........

orchidmanorchidman Senior MemberA true 'Southerner'. NZPosts: 8,403 Senior Member
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10893086


It appears the rifle may not have been tested at that range yet though..............

I am intrigued by the reference to 'A type of carbon only available in NZ'........I thought all carbon was roughly the same.
Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Well, ya got your carbon and then there is carbonite, carbonation and ya got NZ carbon whose molecular structure is upside down..........:tooth::guns:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Well, ya got your carbon and then there is carbonite, carbonation and ya got NZ carbon whose molecular structure is upside down..........:tooth::guns:

    The only choices they have for carbon are 6C12, 6C13, and 6C14 as those are the only three carbon isotopes that are stable. The other 12 isotopes aren't around long enough to say 'Hi!" before they degenerate into something else through B-, B+, or neutron decay.

    I'm wondering about that statement that the carbon outer covering makes the barrel last for 1500 extra rounds over a steel barrel. They got some splainin' to do! :tooth:
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  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    The only choices they have for carbon are 6C12, 6C13, and 6C14 as those are the only three carbon isotopes that are stable. The other 12 isotopes aren't around long enough to say 'Hi!" before they degenerate into something else through B-, B+, or neutron decay.

    I'm wondering about that statement that the carbon outer covering makes the barrel last for 1500 extra rounds over a steel barrel. They got some splainin' to do! :tooth:

    Maybe it takes an extra 1500 rounds for the shooter to get tired of lugging the darn thing around before they bend the barrel around a tree!:jester:
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    The only choices they have for carbon are 6C12, 6C13, and 6C14 as those are the only three carbon isotopes that are stable. The other 12 isotopes aren't around long enough to say 'Hi!" before they degenerate into something else through B-, B+, or neutron decay.

    I'm wondering about that statement that the carbon outer covering makes the barrel last for 1500 extra rounds over a steel barrel. They got some splainin' to do! :tooth:

    There ya go using scientific jargon messing everything up with facts again...were you a rock collector in a former life..:tooth:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    There ya go using scientific jargon messing everything up with facts again...were you a rock collector in a former life..:tooth:

    Facts talk, bullsqueeze walks! :rotflmao: I can't help it; when I see something like that that tweaks my interest I just gotta break it down into what's real.

    That claim about the barrel lasting longer is worrisome. If I fire 5 rounds through my rifle rapid fire, the barrel is so hot from breech to muzzle that you could cook strips of bacon on it. The barrel being covered in some sort of carbon fiber bonded to a barrel liner is more worrisome still. With the heat generated from firing that round, the material used to bond the carbon whatever to the barrel had better be really heat resistant. I'm thinking a barrel liner that is covered in a layer of extremely dense charcoal. Carbon is carbon is carbon, and it will oxidize given the right temperature. Even a diamond can be destroyed by heat, and it's nothing but really highly compressed crystallized carbon.

    While carbon fiber can have heat transfer characteristics that exceed copper by over 5X, that is still a LOT of heat to dissipate over a small surface area.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    So what kind of "Carbon Footprint" does this new rifle have...:jester::guns:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    So what kind of "Carbon Footprint" does this new rifle have...:jester::guns:

    Probably a very large one. Manufacturing that carbon fiber stuff uses a lot of energy to produce it. On the bright side, the carbon in the barrel covering will 'sequester' the carbon as long as it stays intact.
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  • centermass556centermass556 Senior Member Posts: 3,579 Senior Member
    I know at one time, the empire was doing some interesting things with carbonite at Cloud City....But that was a long time ago in a Galaxy far away
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  • sarg1csarg1c Senior Member KentuckyPosts: 1,707 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    So what kind of "Carbon Footprint" does this new rifle have...:jester::guns:
    It's floated in Carbonated water....
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member In the sticks, OHPosts: 5,617 Senior Member
    The stock looks awfully stubby. It doesn't even go past the chamber!

    Looks like you'd have to lay on it to keep it from tipping forward.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    The stock looks awfully stubby. It doesn't even go past the chamber!

    Looks like you'd have to lay on it to keep it from tipping forward.

    Article says the gun weighs 10 Kg, or around 22 pounds. Mine weighs 28 pounds with a 36" barrel and 5 extra inches of muzzle brake(barrel is a surplus M2HB barrel). And mine has a much longer forearm 3 3/4" wide x 2 1/2" deep of laminate wood. That action must weigh a LOT.
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