I will let you know about this a bit later. My starting load came out right where I expected. Then I went up 1/2 grain at a time. After 2 grains, I checked the Chrony again.:yikes:Velocity was great! Too great.
Let me just say that it was time to stop what I was doing, break down the rest of the loads that I have and try something different. Paul sent me some Quickload data, but it wasn't entirely where I was looking to go with it. I got the program in my old laptop. I need to fire it up and see where to go next.
You think you were compressing the loads?
I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
Most likely. I need to find powders that fill the case less. First I need to find the water capacity of the brass that I am using. The first round clocked just under 2100 which was right where I expected it to. I was thinking I could get it up to 23-2400 and call it good. That round 2 grains up clocked 2562fps. Respectable for a .338 Win mag. Dangerous for a .338 Federal.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
...you might actually want to think that .260 thru. The .260 was made by some yahoos that managed to neck a .308 or 7mm-08 case down, or a .243 case up. The 6.5 Creedmoor was actually designed by a couple of pretty good NRA High-Power/ Long Range shooters. The COAL of the .260 is 2.80", case is 2.036", while the Creedmoor is 2.825"/ 1.920". A lot of the "extra" case capacity (3-5%) of the .260 get ate up as soon as you start seating those long bullets, & the Creedmoor is more efficient losing about 0.04% of MV to the .260 while actually fitting into a short action w/ a full bullet dia. neck & the bullets seated out where they should be. I've had to wait a few days, but I haven't had any problem finding 6.5 Creedmoor brass or ammo. Hornady seems pretty committed to the Creedmoor, unlike some of their other recent intros, & talking to others they tend to shoot. There's probably a reason you can find commercial Creedmoors w/ 26-28" barrels, but the only .260's you can find have stubby 16.5-18" barrels... :devil::jester:
Again with the regurgitated seating depth crap! Girls, I have no issue seating my bullets out for my .260 Remington.
You want a Creedmoor, knock your socks off and tickle yourself pink. But, stop with the BS salesman line. Seating depth is NOT an issue if the .260 is built right. You've been reading too many stupid articles geared towards justifying the Creedmoor.
I'm glad you like your rifle. But stop propigating BS.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
It's not that far. I have it all figured out. It's an easy 14 hour drive to Springfield, MO for you. Stop by, crash at Chris's, then you two head on up, carpool. It's about 8.5 hours from Chris's.
Wait, did you just recommend an 8.5 hour drive..............in the same car as CPJ!????
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Again with the regurgitated seating depth crap! Girls, I have no issue seating my bullets out for my .260 Remington.
You want a Creedmoor, knock your socks off and tickle yourself pink. But, stop with the BS salesman line. Seating depth is NOT an issue if the .260 is built right. You've been reading too many stupid articles geared towards justifying the Creedmoor.
I'm glad you like your rifle. But stop propigating BS.
What you are not understanding is that Hornady can't sell factory loaded ammo that way. Every round of .260 Remington they produce has to fit every rifle out there that is chambered for it. From a reloader's perspective-- they really didn't solve anything. From a ammunition manufacturer's standpoint, a mass produced rifle manufacturer's standpoint, and from the view of people that don't reload, it solves the problems they were running into.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
I believe so. Yes, it is insignificant to reloaders. I do seem to remember this one guy that didn't at one time though. I am sure that he appreciates the bullcrap that non-reloaders face and is glad that he doesn't have to deal with that kind of stuff anymore.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Comparing factory ammo between Hornady and Remmingtons, the 260 shows about 200fps more than the Creedmore.
With a 140.
You are comparing hunting ammo with match ammo. Federal's 260 Rem 142gr SMK load does 2750 and Hornady's 140gr Amax load does 2710. Meh. Look at Hodgdon's data-- they are basically the same thing in a slightly different package. When my brass comes in, I can measure the water capacity of each.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
That is easily solved. You shoot the groups. You're gonna be there,anyway.
Or do you want to do it this winter when we come to your place for the Texas shoot?
Here's the thing. You just got done shooting that range with a 308. Somehow, magically, it's gonna turn out differently if you use the exact same rifle, but with a smaller bullet?
You know I love you like a brother. That being said,.....
I guess my thinking is that you might as well spend the time working up a tack driving load for the 308 you have.
It's no slouch, and 750 yards is right in it's wheelhouse.
Rather than buying the exact same rifle, in a different cartridge. At 750 yards, there isn't much benefit in spending the $2k for a new rifle, scope, dies brass, etc.
If you're not going whole hog, what's the point? You pretty much have the exact same thing, now. The only difference will be a couple of clicks dialed in to the scope.
I can't believe I'm saying this. I'm usually enabler #1.
Wow, I missed a crap load of enabling while driving home! I thought that trip was costing me future money, but you guys definitely have got me beat!
BTW one of those random guns that's been on my "this could be interesting and fun" list for a long time has been a black rifle in .260...all of this talk of that round has me thinking...
Oh, it's gonna cost you. You just don't know it yet. It's sinking in now. Slowly.
Most likely. I need to find powders that fill the case less. First I need to find the water capacity of the brass that I am using. The first round clocked just under 2100 which was right where I expected it to. I was thinking I could get it up to 23-2400 and call it good. That round 2 grains up clocked 2562fps. Respectable for a .338 Win mag. Dangerous for a .338 Federal.
Thar' be dragons, don't mess up that pretty face. What powder were you using? I was not getting over 2500 with 225's.
I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
Here's the thing. You just got done shooting that range with a 308. Somehow, magically, it's gonna turn out differently if you use the exact same rifle, but with a smaller bullet?
Higher BC bullet. And who said it would be exactly the same? Stock will be the same but be grey as opposed to brown. Trigger (which is really nice) will be the same or lighter. This is what I am comfortable with and used to. Now remember when I said this...
If it does 1/2" or better, I will add a brake and be done. If it doesn't, I can always make it that way.
Maybe I won't be done at 1/2". Be afraid. Very afraid. Besides, I could say the same thing about your Savages, but I take my job as an enabler very seriously (unlike some people).
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
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You think you were compressing the loads?
Again with the regurgitated seating depth crap! Girls, I have no issue seating my bullets out for my .260 Remington.
You want a Creedmoor, knock your socks off and tickle yourself pink. But, stop with the BS salesman line. Seating depth is NOT an issue if the .260 is built right. You've been reading too many stupid articles geared towards justifying the Creedmoor.
I'm glad you like your rifle. But stop propigating BS.
Wait, did you just recommend an 8.5 hour drive..............in the same car as CPJ!????
You'll love it!
:jester:
(reversepsycologyengaged)
Take that!
Think about it. Many benefits.
Well, at least you'll be able to SEE JB's .260 Remington smoke your Creedmoor at distance.
;-)
Too shooter dependent.
I want to compare external ballistics when y'all get your rifles. That, is what I'm curious about.
Bottle of Blantons?
Will do.
That is easily solved. You shoot the groups. You're gonna be there,anyway.
Or do you want to do it this winter when we come to your place for the Texas shoot?
Here's the thing. You just got done shooting that range with a 308. Somehow, magically, it's gonna turn out differently if you use the exact same rifle, but with a smaller bullet?
You know I love you like a brother. That being said,.....
I guess my thinking is that you might as well spend the time working up a tack driving load for the 308 you have.
It's no slouch, and 750 yards is right in it's wheelhouse.
Rather than buying the exact same rifle, in a different cartridge. At 750 yards, there isn't much benefit in spending the $2k for a new rifle, scope, dies brass, etc.
If you're not going whole hog, what's the point? You pretty much have the exact same thing, now. The only difference will be a couple of clicks dialed in to the scope.
I can't believe I'm saying this. I'm usually enabler #1.
"The Un-Tactical"
Lapua brass that has a small primer pocket is sweet:jester:
"The Un-Tactical"
Oh, it's gonna cost you. You just don't know it yet. It's sinking in now. Slowly.
Thar' be dragons, don't mess up that pretty face. What powder were you using? I was not getting over 2500 with 225's.