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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Thanks. I have good teachers.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    It is especially a good shootin/load in a Ruger SA (even the Hunter model) which aren't known for their tack-driving capabilities.

    So when are you gonna try the same loads in your other .44s?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    It is especially a good shootin/load in a Ruger SA (even the Hunter model) which aren't known for their tack-driving capabilities.

    So when are you gonna try the same loads in your other .44s?

    Hopefully in the next couple of days or this weekend.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Posts: 4,953 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Hopefully in the next couple of days or this weekend.

    yeah and when are you going to go get that piggie
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Weatherby wrote: »
    yeah and when are you going to go get that piggie

    Probably when it not 95 degrees at 1 in the morning.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    FIFY, you sissy.

    Hey Nancy, it's more about meat spoilage before I can get it on ice.

    And I don't wear lace. It's too itchy.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Posts: 4,953 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Ever hear of a water hose? A cooler? Ice?
    Excuses are for losers. Tryins diein, make it happen.

    :that: Go bloody that thing
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Posts: 4,953 Senior Member
    Is it that time of the month already ?
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Yeah, I'm just not feeling it. It's Africa hot down here.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    So when are you gonna try the same loads in your other .44s?

    Here is the load out of my Marlin 1894 with an Aimpoint for a sight.

    44Mag240grXTPLoadinMarlin18941.jpg

    Here is the load out of my 10.5" Ruger Super Blackhawk with iron sights.

    44Mag240grXTPLoadin105inRugerSBH2.jpg

    I'd say it shoots pretty well out of all the guns I've tried. At least with the various sights and as much as I'm capable. Haven't tried it in the Mountain Gun, but probably won't. I'll use up the rest of the factory loads in that gun.

    I'm a happy camper.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Just to sum up the difference in velocities depending on the barrel length.

    7.5" Bisley Hunter

    1,416 fps

    10.5" SBH

    1,435 fps

    20" Marlin 1894

    1,797 fps

    All with the same load.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    On a side note comparrison, the factory loaded XTP runs 1,434 fps out of my 7.5" Ruger Hunter Bisley. But, is not as accurate.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    That puts the 1894 at about 2" @ 100 yards (potentially). Not bad at all for a lightweight trail rifle. I was getting about 4" @ 100 with mine and a 3MOA red dot sight. I miss that rifle. That is another one that I need to put on my never ending list. Sigh.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • jbohiojbohio Posts: 5,619 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    That puts the 1894 at about 2" @ 100 yards (potentially). Not bad at all for a lightweight trail rifle. I was getting about 4" @ 100 with mine and a 3MOA red dot sight. I miss that rifle. That is another one that I need to put on my never ending list. Sigh.
    I know where one is. :devil:
  • JermanatorJermanator Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    I know where one is. :devil:
    They are easy to find. I will get around to it eventually.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Looks like you hit upon a pretty good all around load for several .44 magnums. That sure beats having to use different recipes for each gun, unless you venture into Ruger/TC or Rifle only loading data...just because :guns::guns:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • mohicanmohican Posts: 381 Member
    late to this thread.

    keep an eye on case length - and trim as needed. The hotter the loads the more the case length will grow
    1. Crimp in a separate step/die after seating the bullet. I like Hornady dies and the Lee Factory Crimp Die for 44 mag.

    2. I have really grown to like the Alliant 300 MP for 44 mag and 454 casull.

    3. For shooting from all three guns - revolvers plus lever the 240 xtp is a good choice. My (1987 vintage) Marlin 1894 in 44 mag will not feed a bullet heavier than about 265 grains unless it is seated into the case at the same OAL as the 240 grain bullets. I have heard that newer marlin 1894s in 44mag will handle heavier bullets but I can not personally attest to that.

    4. Remember that it is a 44 mag and not a souped up 45-70 or some such thing. Stick to published loads. I have taken numerous deer with the 44 mag in both Super Blackhawk and Super Redhawk to about 80 yards and was never under gunned.

    5. Use magnum primers for magnum loads.

    6. Unique and Trail Boss are good powders for practice/plinking loads. Unless you are practicing with a smaller caliber and then just brushing up with full power loads prior to hunting (or silhouette shooting) then the practice loads are important, too. And much easier on you recoil wise. When I shot a lot of 44 for both revolver and lever action, my plinking load was a cast 240 grain round nose. Years ago, Remingtons 240 JHP was very inexpensive, have not bought it for years.

    7. Based on a lot of 44 mag shooting in the past - I had the best luck with Starline cases In descending order : Starline - Federal - Midway (don't know who makes them for them) - Remington - Winchester. Not that any of it is bad, but I have had the best case life with Starline. YMMV
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Thanks. I think I've pretty well wrapped up the load work. Might try some heavy bullets down the road.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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