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What distance do you zero you sd/hd carbine for?

knitepoetknitepoet Senior MemberPosts: 22,224 Senior Member
I'm changing the ammo out in my HD carbine and am going to make sure it hits POA @ 100.
With its 2" offset, I know I'll be a little low at "normal" HD ranges, but I'd rather have that instead of being dead on at HD ranges and "stupidly high" as the range increases. I prefer knowing that my bullet will be within 2" of my POA out to well past the distances you expect to need a sd weapon.
So, what range do you want your SD carbine hitting POA???
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SD carbine sight in distance? 28 votes

10 yards
0%
25 yards
25%
BPsniper45erEliDiver43wolf049bruchigator 7 votes
50 yards
35%
wddodgebobbyrlf3alphasigmookieBigslugtimcbreamfisherHKChrisWheelgunnerDes52Justsomedude 10 votes
75 yards
3%
glockman0422 1 vote
100 yards
32%
NCFUBARknitepoetSirGeorgeKillianHappySquidJKPericbcaryshotgunshooter3Jayhawker 9 votes
"Other" (please specify
3%
Varmintmist 1 vote

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  • ericbericb Banned Posts: 392 Member
    100 yards
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I'm changing the ammo out in my HD carbine and am going to make sure it hits POA @ 100.
    With its 2" offset, I know I'll be a little low at "normal" HD ranges, but I'd rather have that instead of being dead on at HD ranges and "stupidly high" as the range increases. I prefer knowing that my bullet will be within 2" of my POA out to well past the distances you expect to need a sd weapon.
    So, what range do you want your SD carbine hitting POA???

    I think it ultimately depends on the weapon's cartridge as well as the geographic area of the residence. An urban or suburban location as well as a carbine chambered for a "handgun" cartridge would not justify a 100 yard zero. If the weapon serves double duty as a farm-ranch-truck gun or if the home is in a rural area I would definitely recommend a 100 yard zero. The 100 yard range zero would also be justified if the weapon is chambered for a high velocity rifle cartridge such as a .223 or .308, et al. Most typical rifle cartridges don't deviate more than +/- 2" above or below the line of sight between zero and 100 yards anyway.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,629 Senior Member
    100 yards
    I had my .223 zeroed for 50 yards while I was living in an urban environment and doing CQC comps....since I've moved out west I changed it to 100 yards to make it more useful for varmints out in the pasture...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • wddodgewddodge Senior Member Posts: 1,141 Senior Member
    50 yards
    I have my AR zero'd for 50 yds. I figure for a SD rifle around the house and barns the range isn't going to be that far. If the threat is out at 100 yds I figure it's going away and I probably shouldn't be shooting it.

    Denny
    Participating in a gun buy back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids.... Clint Eastwood
  • BPsniperBPsniper Banned Posts: 1,961 Senior Member
    25 yards
    I voted 25 yards, but I actually zeroed it for 1" low at 25 yards. So it might actually be closer to a 50 yard zero. Don't know.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,761 Senior Member
    50 yards
    I've got more than a little experience in this area. We zero our department patrol rifles at 100Y, which works out to a roughly 2" holdover at 15 yards, and about 1.25" at 25 yards (individual results may vary slightly) . At household distances, just use the full mechanical offset of 2.5" and you're golden.

    My own gun has the military Matech rear sight, which has an elevation cam that takes it from 200 to 600 meters, so I've set up the gun to take advantage of that. A 50M zero also puts you dead on at 200M, but only about 1.5" high at 100. This zero is my preferred method because you can hold center mass for 300 yards and reliably take care of business.

    The military battle sight zero is (or at least was before the events spawned by 9/11) a 25/300M zero. This is fine for center mass work to 500M, but not so great for urban settings as it will tend to steer you toward the "stupid high" end of the scale.

    When I first got the Matech, I played around with figuring out which sight setting worked to get closest to point of aim at the common CQB distances, but I ultimately decided that a 2.5" or less hold off was nothing I needed to stress over. Remember that this is an unstable bullet that's designed to "tumble and roll and dig a big hole". Cavitation is going to solve a lot of your issues at HD ranges.
    WWJMBD?

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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    100 yards
    I have mine zeroed at 100 yards. At any distance in my house that should be around an inch or two off, which when aiming center of mass, I feel will do the job well.
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  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    25 yards
    Missed the "carbine" part so voted 25 yards thinking sidearm was meant, carbine is set at 100 yards a few inches low at closer ranges will do but the farther out the closer I want POA and POI to be.
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  • HKChrisHKChris New Member Posts: 15 New Member
    50 yards
    My vote was for 50. That's where my RRA AR is sighted in. Although I'm going to pull out a couple of my new marlins and zero for 100 yds
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,692 Senior Member
    50 yards
    I sight for 50 yds., given the optic I have on my rifle?

    Why am I dredging this up?  Because I hate kittens.  And I figure if you're going to necropost, make it a REAL necropost.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 836 Senior Member
    A blast from the past!!!  

    Since I didn’t answer the first time, my 9mm is dead on at 25 yards.
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,761 Senior Member
    edited August 6 #12
    50 yards
    Huh. . .waking up the dead again.

    Ten years on, I guess things have changed slightly in my head:

    5.56/AR-15:  If you run a 50/200 or a 100 yard zero, I'm happy for you.  The difference is about two inches by the time you get to 300 yards.  Y'all wanna waste air arguing about it, feel free.

    Pistol caliber:  75 yards seems to be the happy place to keep hits within a vertically useful space for as far out as possible - at least with 1000fps 9mm.  The "rising" crossover gives you a second zero somewhere around 20 yards, depending on your sight height.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,869 Senior Member
    Zero?
    You guys zero your guns?
    Don't you know a bore-sight tool is all you need
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,790 Senior Member
    AR is zeroed at 50/100 yrds depending on the optic it wears. 

    PCC at 50yrds
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 836 Senior Member
    Zero?
    You guys zero your guns?
    Don't you know a bore-sight tool is all you need
    GREAT!  NOW you tell me…. All that actual ammo, wasted!
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,629 Senior Member
    100 yards
    Zee said:
    AR is zeroed at 50/100 yrds depending on the optic it wears. 

    PCC at 50yrds
    Yep,,,this
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,698 Senior Member
    25 yards
    Looking at some of the names has me wondering what happened to them.

    AR pistol is zeroed at 50 yards.
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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 836 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Looking at some of the names has me wondering what happened to them.

    AR pistol is zeroed at 50 yards.
    Well I can tell you EricB is doing great.  I’m friends with him in FB.
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,656 Senior Member
    "Other" (please specify
    200. Everything that is made to shoot that far or farther. The path will never go above 2" or below 2" at a shorter distance than that. Pretty sure I wont be trying to pick which nostril if that situation happens, so its good.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,405 Senior Member
    I sight for 50 yds., given the optic I have on my rifle?

    Why am I dredging this up?  Because I hate kittens.  And I figure if you're going to necropost, make it a REAL necropost.
    Hard to believe we have 10 years of threads to pick from..... Meltdowns usually happen every five.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 836 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio said:
    I sight for 50 yds., given the optic I have on my rifle?

    Why am I dredging this up?  Because I hate kittens.  And I figure if you're going to necropost, make it a REAL necropost.
    Hard to believe we have 10 years of threads to pick from..... Meltdowns usually happen every five.
    HUSH!!!!!!!!  Don’t jinx this!
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,884 Senior Member
    100 yards
    Apparently I voted 100 yards ten years ago. 

    I zero at 50, if nothing else than because I'm very familiar with my holdovers out to 100+ with my 11.5" gun using that zero. 
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,884 Senior Member
    100 yards
    Zero?
    You guys zero your guns?
    Don't you know a bore-sight tool is all you need
    You might, or might not, be shocked at how many people in the military seem to think that you don't need to zero a red dot. Then when they can't hit anything they complain that "red dots don't work."

    Range time at work is bar none my least favorite time of the year. 
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,869 Senior Member
    I know there is a lot of ignorance out there...
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 836 Senior Member
    Zero?
    You guys zero your guns?
    Don't you know a bore-sight tool is all you need
    You might, or might not, be shocked at how many people in the military seem to think that you don't need to zero a red dot. Then when they can't hit anything they complain that "red dots don't work."

    Range time at work is bar none my least favorite time of the year. 
    Already had 3 military/ex-military bring red dot topped carbines to me because they couldn't hit the side of a barn with them.  Guess what the problem was...
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 836 Senior Member
    I know there is a lot of ignorance out there...
    Ooooooohhhh, a WHOLE lot!!!
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
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