That is true, the same folks that hate Israel, hate U.S. too !!!! and not just because We (U.S.) support Israel, the U.S. is after all the great Satan to Islam.
To not understand that Israel is after all a faithful Ally perhaps the only true Ally in that part of the World is to be a bigger fool than the good Lord ever intended any one Man to be.
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That is true, the same folks that hate Israel, hate U.S. too !!!! and not just because We (U.S.) support Israel, the U.S. is after all the great Satan to Islam.
Was the U.S. considered the Great Satan to Islam before 1948? That little fact is lost on most Americans.
To not understand that Israel is after all a faithful Ally perhaps the only true Ally in that part of the World is to be a bigger fool than the good Lord ever intended any one Man to be.
What happens to that "faithful alliance" if we stop giving Israel $3 billion + per year? Israel knows if the crap gets too thick, and they start mentioning nuclear options, the US will step in and fight for/with them conventionally.
Most importantly, why in the hell do we need allies in that part of the world?
When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.
Im guessing we give Isreal the weapons and money we do in hopes that they will be able to defend themselves against the same bastards that we are up in arms with. And as for Isreal...... I stand behind them because of my beliefs. They OWNED the land first as it was promised to them by a higher being.
Then let the higher being protect them and give them money.
Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
So, when Israel loses the ability to defeat its enemy (all of Islam) by conventional warfare, which it will, without our continued aid, are you satisfied to let them turn Mecca, Teheran, and Cairo into glass?
Yeah, pretty much. War, in general, is a bad thing, but given the choice between an all-out WWII-like conflict (that the U.S. is not involved in) that burns hot for a couple of years then ends, or an interminable Vietnam-like conflict where large puppet-master states (like the U.S.) fight by proxy, I'll take the stand-up fight waged by someone else any day of the week. Without the U.S. playing the welfare sugar-daddy (handing out anti-tank rockets in place of food stamps), we'd eventually get some resolution of a problem that should not be ours.
I seriously doubt Israel would get into a large scale war if we pulled out. I am pretty sure they would find a way to actually make peace with their neighbors if they had to.
I seriously doubt Israel would get into a large scale war if we pulled out. I am pretty sure they would find a way to actually make peace with their neighbors if they had to.
Which of Israel's neighbors want peace... I forget?
Which of Israel's neighbors want peace... I forget?
Actually if you turn off the pro-Zionist media, you find that most of them want peace. They also want a deal to get some of their land back through a 2 state solution which just about everyone (including George Bush and the majority of the Israeli people) thinks is a good idea. http://www.haaretz.com/news/poll-most-palestinians-israelis-want-two-state-solution-1.274607
And by the way, why should the Arabs get their land back? Should we give ours back to the Indians, or the Netherlands, or Britain, France, Spain, or Mexico?
Were the Palestinians (et al) going to give back the land they failed to take by conquest in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1972, etc.?
The land belongs to Israel by the same rights that nearly every other country 'holds title' to their own. It belongs to them until someone takes it from them.
Funny how otherwise intelligent people ignore facts when discussing Israel, but mark My words, the loss of land for Israel will have many evil consequences for Our Country the U.S. too.
Chose to ignore Israel's contribution to World security, however the facts say otherwise.
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To not understand that Israel is after all a faithful Ally perhaps the only true Ally in that part of the World is to be a bigger fool than the good Lord ever intended any one Man to be.
Other than grief what has Israel done for us. The are an expensive ally.
Was the U.S. considered the Great Satan to Islam before 1948? That little fact is lost on most Americans.
What happens to that "faithful alliance" if we stop giving Israel $3 billion + per year? Israel knows if the crap gets too thick, and they start mentioning nuclear options, the US will step in and fight for/with them conventionally.
Most importantly, why in the hell do we need allies in that part of the world?
Adam J. McCleod
Then let the higher being protect them and give them money.
Yeah, pretty much. War, in general, is a bad thing, but given the choice between an all-out WWII-like conflict (that the U.S. is not involved in) that burns hot for a couple of years then ends, or an interminable Vietnam-like conflict where large puppet-master states (like the U.S.) fight by proxy, I'll take the stand-up fight waged by someone else any day of the week. Without the U.S. playing the welfare sugar-daddy (handing out anti-tank rockets in place of food stamps), we'd eventually get some resolution of a problem that should not be ours.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Which of Israel's neighbors want peace... I forget?
Were the Palestinians (et al) going to give back the land they failed to take by conquest in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1972, etc.?
The land belongs to Israel by the same rights that nearly every other country 'holds title' to their own. It belongs to them until someone takes it from them.
Chose to ignore Israel's contribution to World security, however the facts say otherwise.