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Cheetoh734
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As If You Guys Didn't Hate My City Enough...
Cheetoh734
Posts: 714 Senior Member
People are so dumb. This has been going around the local media for a few months now....These jack wagons want $15 to flip burgers...and are protesting and disrupting the businesses to try and get it...Makes my teeth grind.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Fast-food-protests-expand-dramatically-across-Seattle-nation-221636171.html
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Fast-food-protests-expand-dramatically-across-Seattle-nation-221636171.html
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Idiots.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Girl said, " OH no, we're not striking here".
They are out protesting to gather popular support. I don't think many folks care much about the plight of fast food workers.
"We're out here protesting substandard wages and would like your support."
"Oh yeah? Ummm, I'll take a Number 6, hold the onions."
You want to earn more money? Learn skills and get educated. Make your time more valuable to employers.
For the most part, the actual protesters aren't the workers but are union organizers who are bussed in. Surprise surprise.
Fast food workers start at entry-level wages. That's what the term "entry-level" means, duh. The fiction is that the worker is supposed to be paid enough to support a family of 4 with the wages. Sorry, it ain't happening.
This whole bruhaha is a scam to force fast food companies to go full union, with the requisite huge boost in wages that would result. And of course, hint hint, union dues. The unions are simply concerned about the great loss in membership and dues, and the union bosses have essentially plundered the government employee ranks and need more money to support their huge salaries and support for pro-union Demos.
It's all a sizzle without substance.
^ This.
NRA Endowment Member
Exactly. Make yourself marketable. If the only skill you have is flipping burgers and putting lettuce on a bun, don't expect much. A majority of them do not even have the required people skills to be working in fast food.
Its not so much a plight as a realism. If the cost of wages goes up, the cost of the product at the register goes up too. The whole point I (and I would think most people) choke down fast food is because it is fast and cheap. When it costs $10 or more to get a basic meal at McDonalds, I'll make sure I pack a lunch. Which means they lose business and fewer people are employed. So how does that help the folk that work there who need the job? Even if it's at $8 an hour. This is not a new argument however and the states who have chosen to go this route end up with a lot of problems - a perfect example of this is CA.
People sometimes looks down on these kids (and grown ups if applicable) because that's where they work. It's a shame, but these kids have the drive and pride to work there anyway.
That being said, you've got to be an idiot to think you deserve 15/hr for working at a fast foot joint. I have no patience for people who think that if they make enough noise, people will listen. "I work hard, so I deserve the 15$", or "how can I support a family on these wages"? Got a family you have to support; go to your local construction company and tell them you'll dig a ditch by hand, or you'll lug bricks, or wash the equipment. Show them your family means the world to you and you'll move up as far a your talents will take you, if not further. I get that work may be hat to come by, but it's out there, and sometimes your life needs to get a little worse before it gets better.
Hey, a lot of us have flipped burgers or done otherwise low income stuff when we were young. When I was in college I worked 3 nights a week at this nice little mom & pop burger place near campus. It was okay work, the owners nice folks, paid us a little higher than minimum. I could keep up with the orders and still have time to study my chem and math.
And duh, I knew it was a temp job for lower wages and that was fine. I covered a lot of my general expenses and also got free dinner, hey!
Hawk
Although in the case of Starbucks, one may have to concede their point - - They charge five bucks for a large cup of coffee, but they really show balls when they set out a tip jar.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
That's part of it, but the fact is many unions are also wondering where income to cover future outflow (read that as pension payments) will come from. They are sweating like whores in church over looming pension payouts. There's your next financial 'bubble'.
George Carlin
This is a concept folks can't figure out. They want it now.
It's not public money the strikers are after, it's private. What new arrangement they are able to make with their employers, if any at all, is none of my business. I have my own reasons for now and then patronizing fast food restaurants - convenience, speed and price - if and when those reasons aren't satisfied, I'll take my business elsewhere.
I am far more outraged over the extravagant salaries and benefits lavished on government employees. Their golden parachute pensions and Cadillac healthcare plans are ruining the budgets of every level of government. Aside from those serving in dangerous jobs like the military, police and fire departments, whom I have no issue with pensioning and caring for, other civil service workers and office holders should have to retire on their savings, Social Security and Medicare like everybody else. Pensions should be reserved for private sector employees who, unlike government workers, run real risks of termination during their careers. Public sector workers are notoriously difficult to fire, and that unparalleled level of job security should be all that's needed to attract quality workers to civil service.
Recoil is how you know primer ignition is complete.
I'm a retired federal government employee and served this country for 40 years.....and you are talking out of your horsebutt....I paid into my retirement fund for all of those 40 years as well as contributing to my Thrift Saving Plan.....a 1/4 of my pension payout goes to pay for my health insurance every month...and my "golden parachute" is more of a "Mae West" So take your "opinion" and go pound sand....
Oh! I remember you! Your name is Rick and you used to work over at Whammy Burger. ...sorry about shooting up the store!
Best wishes
Michael Douglass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK332QsfYRc
Without really knowing the details, let me speak on horse's side for a second... I don't think he was talking about legit workers who spent years in their jobs and who earned their pensions fairly. I think he is focused on the over-pensioned unionized public employees whose pensions essentially amount to full or near-full pay for life, bankrupting legit pension funds and creating chaos with future budgets.
Myself, for example, I receive a decent SS payment but I also paid into that for years and years of somewhat upscale salary. I also get a modest pension from Gulf Oil. These two provide me with a reasonable lifestyle if I budget carefully.
I don't think that horse was pointing at your own situation nor mine, but the excessive misuse of pension agreements.