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3 day bag list - anyone have a sample?
While I have everything I think I need, I don't have it conveniently stored. I know everyone's needs are different and that can make a difference in your Bug out list.
I have a three day pack I want to load up as my semi permanent get outta' Dodge kit.
Here is the start of my list:
1 day of clothes
gloves
knife
G19 and three full mags
Fire kit
first aid kit
solar cell phone recharger
multi tool
flashlight
extra flashlight batteries
2 liters of water in Nalgene bottles
25 ft paracord
poncho
sealed moist wipes
Five extra strength Tylenol two pill packs
Hat
Large steel cup
micro stove and fuel ( I need one of these )
local map
Water filtration
Water tablets
Filtration " straw "
insect repellant
paper
pen / pencil
fishing hooks
soap
toothbrush and paste
Machete
Binoculars
sunscreen
Some food but what can be stored for years in my pack just in case? Suggestions please! Three days worth or so.
Add to that my AK and three full magazines
I suppose I need one for me, the wife and the 9 year old.
If I am taking the truck:
I have a couple of those Wise sealed PVC buckets of food with a total of 120 servings between them. They go in the truck, with some water, and a stove with propane cylinders, and water pots. Too heavy to carry if I had to walk out.
If it is a long term thing, 5000 rounds of .22 and my 10/22 and a .22 pistol, 1000 rnds of 7.62x39 and another AK or SKS. These are already on standby and available in a pinch, but not part of a three day plan. Certainly not able to carry it.
What am I missing and what would you add?
When we are done with this thread, I will put together a checklist that we can possibly publish.
D
I have a three day pack I want to load up as my semi permanent get outta' Dodge kit.
Here is the start of my list:
1 day of clothes
gloves
knife
G19 and three full mags
Fire kit
first aid kit
solar cell phone recharger
multi tool
flashlight
extra flashlight batteries
2 liters of water in Nalgene bottles
25 ft paracord
poncho
sealed moist wipes
Five extra strength Tylenol two pill packs
Hat
Large steel cup
micro stove and fuel ( I need one of these )
local map
Water filtration
Water tablets
Filtration " straw "
insect repellant
paper
pen / pencil
fishing hooks
soap
toothbrush and paste
Machete
Binoculars
sunscreen
Some food but what can be stored for years in my pack just in case? Suggestions please! Three days worth or so.
Add to that my AK and three full magazines
I suppose I need one for me, the wife and the 9 year old.
If I am taking the truck:
I have a couple of those Wise sealed PVC buckets of food with a total of 120 servings between them. They go in the truck, with some water, and a stove with propane cylinders, and water pots. Too heavy to carry if I had to walk out.
If it is a long term thing, 5000 rounds of .22 and my 10/22 and a .22 pistol, 1000 rnds of 7.62x39 and another AK or SKS. These are already on standby and available in a pinch, but not part of a three day plan. Certainly not able to carry it.
What am I missing and what would you add?
When we are done with this thread, I will put together a checklist that we can possibly publish.
D
"A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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My machete has a saw back, so it is two in one. I have considered a hatchet but it's a lot of extra weight. I might put it in my wife's pack with her medical kit.
Small binoculars are a safety item. I want to see a threat or game before it sees me and they help a ton.
I am looking for the "ideal" lightweight stove kit and boiling water cup. I would appreciate suggestions. The sterno stove looks practical, but I am mainly interested in purifying water and heating it for dry food rations. Since I will have two full packs and one mini pack I can spread it out. An aluminum cooking kit would be ideal, with a GI type cup of some sort.
We are taking a camping trip in Feb and I might try these out with the wife and then 10 year old. Call it a dry run. Leave the house in a hurry with the three day kit, hang out in the woods in the Ocala national forest. I might be forced to bring a tent and sleeping comforts, but overall I want to simulate getting out of Miami in a hurry. Why? No good reason other than it's something we should be good at, and the whole back to nature thing might be fun for a few days if it isn't raining or if there aren't any wild fires.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
That, or when giant Michael Bay robots arrive and start smashing things with their fists.
The original posters list looks just fine to me, I would add to it gasoline cans to leave town and cash to relocate be it temporarily or permanently
Why would anyone choose to hunker down where there are no hospitals with emergency services, schools for the kids, employment opportunities and so on if the there are available a mere few hundred miles away? Even thousands of miles away?
Now if we are talking about something like 90% of folks being erased drom the face of the planet and one happens to be part of the surviving 10% there ought to be enough stuff to survive left around in store shelves, wharehouses and so on.
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I survived Andrew in 1992, and even in a Cat 5 Hurricane there are still plenty of local resources available. I lived without power in South Florida from August 24th till about September 15th in 1992 in extreme heat, humidity and rainstorms and it was not too hard considering the circumstances. I ate a lot of canned food and cooked on my grill, and continued to work for the power company and others during the recovery. At that time I lived alone with two small dogs. Today I have a wife and child, so surviving a severe hurricane is not what this is about.
For what my paranoid delusions are worth, I feel Miami is a prime town for a terrorist attack. We have a mutli racial / ethnic community and we are a banking and shipping center. My biggest fear is the port of Miami brings in a ship with an atomic device that goes boom. Is that far out there, yes. Would it cause a complete breakdown of the local economy, civility, and require relocation in a hurry? Yes. It is highly likely in even the worst scenario that we could flee to points up north, but for a few days we might need to be on our own and get out of town. That's what I guess I would want to be prepared for. Imagine that your car will no longer work ( EMP) , and you are stuck in a fallout area.
On foot I would be lucky to make 12 miles a day in the South Florida heat with a kid in tow. That's my opinion, but I certainly am open to yours and even your poking fun. Being prepared does not mean it will happen, it just means I want my kid to survive anything.
I might add that being prepared is not just about what you think might happen, that's actually pretty easy. It is about the unknown. I am not going to stockpile years worth of food, I just want to get out of any potentially bad situation.
IMHO
D
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Jerry
I would add
Sleeping/shelter provisions. Your wife and child might not be able to tolerate cold, rainy nights outside.
Waterproof hiking boots all around.
I'd skip the clothes for a few changes of underwear, and socks. No cotton socks.
Ponchos
Gsi stainless cup/pot. Wrap a few wraps of duct tape around the bottom of a 32oz Nalgene bottle, slips right on.
Any necessary meds.
Some hard currency, not paper dollars. Silver.
Inexpensive headlamp. Hands free is more better.
Trade/barter items
I pack mine keeping in mind that we may never return. Be prepared.
You are one of them.
Along the prepping lines, has anyone ever buried a gun or ammo "just in case"? I'd never heard of it before until I read an article about it and how prepare the gun for it. There is a small town around here that the mayor tried to pass a law authorizing them to collect up guns during emergencies. Don't think it passed but the libs keep trying at all levels. I guess that's why you'd want to bury a weapon.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Hate to disagree Teach but anything that relies on a semiconductor as part of it's ignition will not run after a strong EMP. I think that includes cars with ignition modules which they started putting in during the late 70s. While shielded it is only for EMI, and they do have heavy duty power transistors but there is still a P/N junction that would break down if subjected to an EMP by a nuke a couple miles above ground. I think it would be hit or miss if a post 1960s car would still run. Some cars today have upwards of 80 microprocessors in them and there is no way they would run. Heck the doors would not even unlock on some (no keys). This is the exact reason a lot of ham operators still use high power tubes in their amps, so they can operate during severe sun spots or god forbid a nuclear detonation. You're really screwed if you have a pacemaker, heck an IPOD in the top pocket can mess with them.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Depending on where you live, gun confiscation during emergencies, is probably a violation of state law....but in ANY event, it is a violation of Federal law...See the Stafford Act ......Many States have adopted similar Disaster Response Acts...
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
- Survival Knife (US Army or Gerber ASEK is pretty much perfect)
- Magnesium fire starter
- Cotton balls covered and saturated in petroleum jelly
- 2 bungee chords
- 100' 550 chord
- SAS Survival Manual
- 2 33 gallon trash bags
- 1 extra pair of socks
The less I have to carry, the better. I could survive for about a week with stuff that will fit in a standard MOLLE butt pack.
Also, a firearm isn't very high on my priority list.
"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
The Stafford Act was amended to prohibit firearm confiscations BECAUSE of what happened in NO during Katrina....Being current on these laws is important stuff for all firearms owners...
SEC. 557. Title VII of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5201) is amended by adding at the end the following:
SEC. 706. FIREARMS POLICIES.
(a) PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS.
No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of Federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may
(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;
(2) require registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by Federal, State, or local law;
(3) prohibit possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law; or
(4) prohibit the carrying of firearms by any person otherwise authorized to carry firearms under Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in support of relief from the major disaster or emergency.
(b) LIMITATION.Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or evacuation.
(c) PRIVATE RIGHTS OF ACTION.
(1) IN GENERAL.Any individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may seek relief in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress against any person who subjects such individual, or causes such individual to be subjected, to the deprivation of any of the rights, privileges, or immunities secured by this section.
(2) REMEDIES.In addition to any existing remedy in law or equity, under any law, an individual aggrieved by the seizure or confiscation of a firearm in violation of this section may bring an action for return of such firearm in the United States district court in the district in which that individual resides or in which such firearm may be found.
(3) ATTORNEY FEES.n any action or proceeding to enforce this section, the court shall award the prevailing party, other than the United States, a reasonable attorneys fee as part of the costs..
That's one reason I keep a couple of antique vehicles around. Also, non-computerized Diesels will run even without a battery onboard, like my Massey-Ferguson 180 tractor. All I need is a hill steep enough to bump-start the engine after a short roll. My Kohler-engine generator with a magneto will even keep me in electricity as long as I can find something to pour in the gas tank. That would be a difficult decision, however- - - - -burn the alcohol from the still in the generator and the vehicles, or drink it and push the car?
Jerry
How much octane?
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I just watched a program on the Military Channel about contractors being used in NO during Katrina, Blackwater types. I think some laws were also passed to make them accountable for their actions overseas as well.
Some I encountered in Iraq/Afghanistan were Cowboys and thought their feces didn't stink, others were as professional as our uniformed military.
Nothing against them in war zones and they are on OUR side mercenary or not. Stateside, I'd rather not see them enforcing the "LAW", but getting stuff running again, helping folks humanitarian kinda stuff is OK.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
In Miami, one firearm each is a minimum in my opinion.
The more I think about it the more I want a folding stock for one of my AK's. Maybe a lightweight.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
To be living in the woods,end of story
This set up is the most efficiant and cost effective that I could come up with
cook set. See the heat exchance on the bottom? It will BOIL 2c water in 50 seconds.....
http://www.survivalfood.com/optimus-terra-weekend-he-cook-set/
..... when on this http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___87758
Uses any isopro fuel canister.
The good, it all nests inside the cookset with a mini bic lighter, the bad, you need isopro canisters and you cannot start the stove with a striker, you need flame. However, I did the 107 mile canoe trip cooking all but 2 meals, and still have most of a tank left. One large tank would hold 3 people for 3 days.
I have found that a tomahawk (cold steel trail hawk) is a lot lighter than a hatchet and better in the few cases where you need to cut anything. Cutting branches is not nessessary unless you need to whip up a tarp shelter in a hurry. If I needed to dump weight, that would be one to go.
You say your wife and you, that means 2 packs. That means you can take a 2 person backpacking tent and split it between 2 packs, or two tarps. In FLA, I would go for the tent because of bugs. I am partial to Eureka. I have this one http://www.amazon.com/Eureka-Forte-SQ-2XT-sleeps/dp/B002PB0H82 and like it a lot. You would have to squeeze to get a kid in but it would be doable. With 2 packs, a 3 person would not be out of line.
For 3 days, you can pack food easy. Regular MRE's are ok, strip them out of the bags and re pack them.
They vaccume pack ground beef and when added to hburger helper stroganoff prepared beforehand with dry milk and butter buds really isnt bad for a camping meal. Same with a Pasta Side like garlic noodles and vaccume pack chicken. Canned chicken is cheaper, but then you have the weight and if you are in a National Forest, you need to pack out what you take in. For multi day trips, I vaccume seal everything for a day in their own bags. For example on the canoe trip, for a day I packed:
4 Folgers coffee bags, the kind you steep. 2 in the small optimus pan first in AM, then 1 to a pan at lunch.
2 1 pt bags with gatorade, I dont like gatorade, but when you are paddling for 8 hrs, you need it.
One qt frez bag of premade oatmeal with dryed friut or min rice and raisins for breakfast
two freezer bags premade up with:
either a pasta side with chicken
or 4 cheeze potatoes (cheezy baco spuds)
or the beef stroganoff
or 1/2 of a summer sausage and a vaccumed packed bagle and a hunk of cheese
for lunch and dinner.
one qt freezer bag with peanuts, dry fruit, and some M&M's for dessert and snack.
On the other end..
3/4 of a rool of tp will fit in a quart freezer bag. Take corn starch for the fellas, they might get chafed. Baby wipes are nice to.
Dawn dishwashing liquid works well to clean your pots and your body. Cut a kitchen sponge in half for the pots, and take 2 neckerchiefs for the bod, one wash and one dry.
More later, I gotta go to work
Great stuff! This is what I am looking for, your experiences.
Thank you.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Now I need a cook set to drop it into.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Don't tell the Iraqis but some of them standing on the side of the road in Iraq in 03 pointing to their mouths in a "I'm starving please feed me" gesture got some pork meals I tossed outta my truck window, hope they could read English :tooth:
They have gotten and still are getting better tasting menus over the years, but to me I'll take a an old fashioned C-ration.
MRE's make me wanna :vomit: especially the earlier versions and if you get them 2X or 3X a day for weeks on end...........
Beats the heck outta starving, I reckon.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
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-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski