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How's this for a no-brainer CCW choice?

TeachTeach Senior MemberPosts: 18,428 Senior Member
I got curious this morning, and made a few comparisons between two of my favorite CCW guns. Pretty informative!

Here's my AMT Backup .45 and the Polish P-64 I've been carrying a lot. They both fit the same cross-draw IWB holster:
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Stacked view, Backup on top:
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Of course there is a 5.5 ounce weight difference, both guns loaded and ready for action:
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95 grain Hornady XTP HP VS 230 Grain Starfire- - - - -6 rounds each- - - - -anybody got a preference?
:uhm:
Jerry

Edit: I'm thinking of adding a pinky extension to the AMT mags, after seeing the stacked comparison photo.
Jerry

Replies

  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I'd carry the AMT too, but I don't own one. I do own a P-64. So .45 vs 9X18 MAK no brainer if I had both!
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,146 Senior Member
    Get another holster and carry both and walk lopsided.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,286 Senior Member
    Which one can you empty the quickest with the most accuracy at conversation distance?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Either one is adequate at OH-S**T! distance. I can hit a standard silhouette target with the .45 at a 50-foot indoor range pretty consistently, which is more than twice the average social work distance. The P-64 has at least as much felt recoil as the .45, maybe more with some loads. I think the big bore and short slide of the AMT contributes to it being controllable- - - -not much slide mass. I've also done a trigger job on the AMT, polishing all the contact points of the DAO trigger, which makes the pull very smooth. Originally, it was stiff and rough-feeling. No spring tension changes, just lots of polishing.
    Jerry
  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Senior Member Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    9mm (.357) expands to .45.........a .45 just gets bigger.
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    My P-64 bites into my finger under my trigger guard. It shoots good though, especially with some XTPs I loaded up for it.

    Of course, my CZ 82 handles that load much better and is a breeze to control in comparison. So either a 88-90 grain bullet vs a 230 grain larger caliber one......not a hard decision.

    Have you ever used a Chrony to measure the MV on your .45 ACP AMT? I know/read Officer's Models and other even smaller compacts lose some, but don't remember how much.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Good comparison. I compared my XDs .45 with my Kahr K-40 and K-9, which are almost exactly the same size. I was surprised and pleased to find that the XDs was more pleasant to shoot than the K-40 and not much more vigorous than the K-9 loaded with 147 gr. SD ammo, even though both have steel frames.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I just corrected a typo- - - -that P-64 fires 95-grain Hornady XTP hollowpoints- - - -not 195! Twice the bullet weight with a 185G HP gives the .45 an edge, even at a somewhat reduced velocity from the 2 1/2" barrel.
    Jerry
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