7mm Rem Mag Poll - Less Weight or More Barrel?

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  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Since your distances will not be long, go with a 24" and keep it handy and portable for the platform.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I just can't get myself to love an A-Bolt. Closest I can come is kinda sorta maybe liking the X-Bolt.

    Me too and I fully realize it's completely irrational. I've been researching a build and here's what I've come up with. The action is what it is. Unless you're talking Kimber or Rifles inc. or something. But when does an affordable action come along in one of those. Like never. And you can shave ounces with Talleys and a Leupold ultra-lite.
    Ounces. Like in a few extra inches of barrel length. I'm thinking 26 or 28. So the conclusion I've come up with is it's all about the stock. i like my wood but even with Teach drilling and shaving like crazy you just can't beat a light weight synthetic. So it won't be a classic show piece, but rather a working rifle. A tool so to speak.
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,517 Senior Member
    26" Barrel at 9 Pounds Finished Weight
    I voted for the 26", all of my custom rifles have 26" quite a few stock rifles have 26" I like 26" and never found the extra 2" to be any more unwieldy than a 24" that said,

    I looked up the weight of CM tubing a 3/4" OD with a 1/4" bore (no .284 listed) weights 1.335lbs / foot, so 2" would weight .1668 oz. 3/4 is larger than the muzzle of most bbl. SS might be 1/8oz. heavier

    I odnt know why a Rem. 700 26" should weight 2lbs. more than a 24".

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    jaywapti wrote: »
    I odnt know why a Rem. 700 26" should weight 2lbs. more than a 24".

    JAY

    The comparison is between a (24") stock Tikka T3 Lite Stainless with rings/scope and a (26") Remington 700 with B&C Alaskan II Medalist stock rings/scope.

    The 2" of barrel is not adding the weight. It's the difference in action design and stock material/design.

    The Tikka I had weighed just under 7 pounds. The Remington I have (which is likely how the 7mm RM would end up) weight 9 pounds 2 ounces.

    Thus, the comparison.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • DurwoodDurwood Senior Member Posts: 970 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Get a Tikka, put one of your speckle jobs on it and be done with it:guns:
    You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts:guns:
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Any chance of slimming down the 700?
    Drill and trim the bolt handle, flute the bolt, shave the action?
    Turn the barrel down a bit?
    That's my happy place, a custom, slim, 26" R700.
  • farm boyfarm boy Senior Member Posts: 987 Senior Member
    Durwood wrote: »
    Get a Tikka, put one of your speckle jobs on it and be done with it:guns:

    Then sell it. Isn't that what happened to the last one?
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Any chance of slimming down the 700?
    Drill and trim the bolt handle, flute the bolt, shave the action?
    Turn the barrel down a bit?
    That's my happy place, a custom, slim, 26" R700.

    Ain't no way I'm going to do all that for a couple ounces.

    Best I could do would be to use the Alaskan Medalist "Mountain Rifle" ADL stock at 24 ounces compared to 30+ ounces.

    That, and use Talley Lightweight Rings instead of the 1-Piece base and Leupold Mk4 steel rings as on my .300 RUM I could probably save a pound or more with just those changes.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    farm boy wrote: »
    Then sell it. Isn't that what happened to the last one?


    :bang:

    It was a weak moment in my life. He offered cash!!!!!! I wasn't myself!!!!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • farm boyfarm boy Senior Member Posts: 987 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    :bang:

    It was a weak moment in my life. He offered cash!!!!!! I wasn't myself!!!!!!


    Blah blah blah. Excuses are like...


    At least It is loved now.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    farm boy wrote: »
    Then sell it. Isn't that what happened to the last one?

    Oh, and thanks for the salt in the wound!!!!

    :tissue:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    farm boy wrote: »
    Blah blah blah. Excuses are like...


    At least It is loved now.

    NO!!!!! HE sold it too!!!!!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • farm boyfarm boy Senior Member Posts: 987 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    NO!!!!! HE sold it too!!!!!!!

    :nono::rotflmao::banned:
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Zee wrote: »
    NO!!!!! HE sold it too!!!!!!!
    What? Did he offer it back to you first?
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    What? Did he offer it back to you first?

    Well yeah, but at the time I didn't have the cash and was still stoned or something. 'Cause I didn't find a way to get it back.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Arrrrgh. He's in the clear, then. Just wasn't meant to be.
    You'll like the 7mm mo betta.
  • DurwoodDurwood Senior Member Posts: 970 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    I'm ashamed to say I'm currently Tikka-less as well, but barring any sudden additions to their line up, I"m pretty sure I'm gonna add a Tikka Lite Stainless in 7mm Remington Mag by late summer.
    You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts:guns:
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,546 Senior Member
    I vote light weight. Not getting any younger you know...... oldman.gif
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Arrrrgh. He's in the clear, then. Just wasn't meant to be.
    You'll like the 7mm mo betta.

    Only concern is if the 9.5" twist of the Tikka would stabilize a 162gr A-Max.

    The Remington has a 9.25" twist.

    I dont guess .25" twist would make THAT much difference. No?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    Durwood wrote: »
    I'm ashamed to say I'm currently Tikka-less as well, but barring any sudden additions to their line up, I"m pretty sure I'm gonna add a Tikka Lite Stainless in 7mm Remington Mag by late summer.

    What!!!!?????

    Where is the .25-06 that started it all?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Zee wrote: »
    Only concern is if the 9.5" twist of the Tikka would stabilize a 162gr A-Max.

    The Remington has a 9.25" twist.


    I dont guess .25" twist would make THAT much difference. No?

    If the nine twist will stabilize a 180 grain Berger hybrid in a 284 Win, I'm pretty sure a 9.5T will stabilize 162 Amax
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • DurwoodDurwood Senior Member Posts: 970 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Zee wrote: »
    What!!!!?????

    Where is the .25-06 that started it all?


    Well, it's like this... I would NEVER have parted with that gun, BUT one of my favorite people who has done more for me in the gun and custom knife world than anyone asked if I would be interested in trading it to him (for custom slipjoint knives). I said if was anyone else, no, but since it was him, yes. He's 70 years old and still a kid when it comes to rifles. He loves them.

    And to be honest, after the addition of the 6.5-284 Norma to the line up and the fact that I already have a .257 Roberts...the famous .25-06 seemed a little redundant. It also frees up a spot for that 7 Mag I've always wanted:beer:
    You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts:guns:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    Durwood wrote: »
    I"m pretty sure I'm gonna add a Tikka Lite Stainless in 7mm Remington Mag by late summer.

    I'm with you on that. I still need to finish my Bench Rifle project and pay off a certain Bench REST that I can't live without..................

    But, after that............I think a 7mm Remington Mag is gonna have to happen. Probably late next summer if things look up on the work front.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    If the nine twist will stabilize a 180 grain Berger hybrid in a 284 Win, I'm pretty sure a 9.5T will stabilize 162 Amax

    Cool!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,600 Senior Member
    Durwood wrote: »
    Well, it's like this...
    And to be honest, after the addition of the 6.5-284 Norma to the line up and the fact that I already have a .257 Roberts...the famous .25-06 seemed a little redundant. It also frees up a spot for that 7 Mag I've always wanted:beer:

    Whats this..........redundant............word mean?

    I have a .284-08...........a 7mm Remington Express..........a .284 Remington Ultra Mag...................and I want a 7mm Remington Mag.

    On top of that, I have a 6.5-08, a 6.5-284 Win, AND a .25-06!!!!!!!!!

    Redundant? What's that?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    I would find someone who had one just to be sure.
    I am only running 2700 fps with my 284 Win, with the 180 Hybrid.
    I do have a 8.5T .284 Krieger barrel coming, but it might be a tad short for you:tooth:
    Zee wrote: »
    Cool!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    :jester:
    Zee wrote: »
    I still need to pay off a certain Bench REST that I can't live without..................
    :jester:
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    Zee wrote: »
    Whats this..........redundant............word mean?

    I have a .284-08...........a 7mm Remington Express..........a .284 Remington Ultra Mag...................and I want a 7mm Remington Mag.

    On top of that, I have a 6.5-08, a 6.5-284 Win, AND a .25-06!!!!!!!!!

    Redundant? What's that?

    I know not of what you speak. I have two 6mm Winchesters, two .264-284's and some 30's. There's a big, gaping hole in the .284 range for me.
    I'm gonna look for a use R700 7mm of some stripe (next year). Maybe send the bolt to fat camp, throw it in a LW stock.
  • wildgenewildgene Senior Member Posts: 1,036 Senior Member
    26" Barrel at 9 Pounds Finished Weight
    Zee wrote: »
    I just can't get myself to love an A-Bolt. Closest I can come is kinda sorta maybe liking the X-Bolt.

    ...X-Bolt Stalker weighs in about the same, couple ounces more, the very soft, forward mounted mag release on 'em just makes me nervous...
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,026 Senior Member
    24" Barrel at 7 Pounds Finished Weight
    7's Simply Rock!:up:
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
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